We are the Peace! Gift for the Humanity: Stanley Meyer Water Injector Principle!

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http://brevets-patents.ic.gc.ca/opic-cipo/cpd/eng/patent/1234774/summary.html

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It may be of relevance.  Do the test yourself.  As for a link you'd need to join wfcy2k yahoo group and search tim walker's posts there.

Andy

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Read with much attention, this is the abstract of the MEYER patent haithar came up with.

"Process and apparatus for dissociating hydrogen
atoms from a water molecule by electrical force. Particularly,
the separation of the hydrogen and oxygen atoms from the
water molecule by the application of a non-regulated, non-
filtered, low-power, direct current voltage electrical
potential applied to two non-oxidizing similar metal plates
having water passing therebetween.  [/size]"

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Nice disussions.

I had lots on my mind here. .....
Maybe the following thought can help.
Plummers known the effect of hydrogen creating in tubes by the movement force of the water rubbing against the tube. It works like a Van der Graaff machine.

Other thought:
Do not forget that you will inject the water into a vacuum environment of the cylinder.  Thats will accelerate things a lot.
Electrons and vacuum do like eachother very much.
So, you spray under pressure into a vacuum. Lots of acc if you ask me.

Steve

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I explored  the patent ca1234774 here in another thread.  I pretty much verified all the claims stan made in that patent.  The lawton circuit I purchased arrived doa so I tested with a dimmer switch (poor man's variac), straight dc, a cheap low power pwm and a cheap low power inverter circuit.  But that was the wfc and not the final water fuel injector patents that Stan eventually arrived at.  Water pumps are relatively low power devices and tap or distilled water is non-corrosive.  I found a 12 watt water pump at j.c. whitney that operates on 12 volts.  There may be other better ones.

Andy

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Yes pumps can be quite low power. If you take 40w it can become 40kv 1ma or can be 0,001 volts 40000 amps... depends on how you transform it!

 

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Hello guys

Today I went to a university the most important here in south America. I talked to a doctor in physics for about 3 hours called juan from Spain . He is the responsible for the institute of plasma physics usp and they are doing a research for designing a kind of plasma that will reach 10 million degrees to achieve controlled fusion in about 20 years. 

I got some bad news, about ionization, He told me that we wont get any plasma or ionization of any kind without having 10.000 degrees. If we were up to ionize taking out of oxygen 4 electrons we would need 200.000 degrees...

He explained me that if you create a plasma you have the ions witch are the protons close to the cathode separated from the electrons on the anode, and that there is a tremendous force of attraction between them and told me that there is no way to extract the electrons as stan described, actually told me that this don't even exists. He told me that they superheat the plasma to ionize it with passing thru it currents in the order of 100.000 amperes far higher than I ever though was possible....

About my theory he said:
well maybe it can work you must prove it, makes a lot of sense, you should study to have the background to be able to design a physics model to calculate, the people that know what you need for this are too busy to even think about what you are proposing, but would break the theory of thermodynamics however he said" if you are saying that there are so many patents in the field it can be true, nobody would spent 200k dollars to make international patents on the field if wasn't true"

I gave him my phone and said to him that if he ever find someone who is interested and have background to collaborate will give me a call.

I decided to start studying, (following all)the physics course witch will include math.... To be able to do the calculations, and in the end of the year I will make the test to be able to enter in the university legally and finish the course 5 years. There I will be able to use the university materials and labs, and have the opportunity to know lot of  people that will help me. I'm 24... well I will study a bit ... I'm one moth late.

Best regards
sebosphysicus

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Hello guys

Today I went to a university the most important here in south America. I talked to a doctor in physics for about 3 hours called juan from Spain . He is the responsible for the institute of plasma physics usp and they are doing a research for designing a kind of plasma that will reach 10 million degrees to achieve controlled fusion in about 20 years. 

I got some bad news, about ionization, He told me that we wont get any plasma or ionization of any kind without having 10.000 degrees. If we were up to ionize taking out of oxygen 4 electrons we would need 200.000 degrees...

He explained me that if you create a plasma you have the ions witch are the protons close to the cathode separated from the electrons on the anode, and that there is a tremendous force of attraction between them and told me that there is no way to extract the electrons as stan described, actually told me that this don't even exists. He told me that they superheat the plasma to ionize it with passing thru it currents in the order of 100.000 amperes far higher than I ever though was possible....

About my theory he said:
well maybe it can work you must prove it, makes a lot of sense, you should study to have the background to be able to design a physics model to calculate, the people that know what you need for this are too busy to even think about what you are proposing, but would break the theory of thermodynamics however he said" if you are saying that there are so many patents in the field it can be true, nobody would spent 200k dollars to make international patents on the field if wasn't true"

I gave him my phone and said to him that if he ever find someone who is interested and have background to collaborate will give me a call.

I decided to start studying, (following all)the physics course witch will include math.... To be able to do the calculations, and in the end of the year I will make the test to be able to enter in the university legally and finish the course 5 years. There I will be able to use the university materials and labs, and have the opportunity to know lot of  people that will help me. I'm 24... well I will study a bit ... I'm one moth late.

Best regards
sebosphysicus

Strange story Sebos about ionization. Can that person explain how air purifiers work on 3 till 5Kv?

So you stay there and not go back to Italy?
Back to school is kewl......
Go for it!

Steve