Author Topic: We are the Peace! Gift for the Humanity: Stanley Meyer Water Injector Principle!  (Read 11996 times)

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Hello People from earth!
We want to provide a technology witch will change the way you live!
We want to provide free energy, food, and medical support.
We are the Future, we are the peace, Aways!
 
I discovered how to run a car on water using Stanley Allen Meyer water injector principle and i would like to leave here the info about it and to find people interested in support me with money to construct the device and any technical help that we may need for completing the replication of the injectors.

All his work is based on Magneto hydro dynamics (MHD) and Electro hydro dynamics (EHD).

He created a high pressure cheaply inside his water tank and made the water to move at high speed crossing an electric field generating this way a high amperage.

He divided the generation of electrical energy needed to split the water in two parts. 1° the creation of high voltage field aways rising at low amps and 2° the creation of high amperage due to the high speed of flow of water in relation to his electrodes. The high amperage is what allows the electric field generator or (vic) to actually develop the high voltage!

I would like to receive donations on this https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donations&business=ERQSHHBGWC5P2&lc=GB&item_name=Bring%20power%20to%20the%20people&currency_code=EUR&bn=PP%2dDonationsBF%3abtn_donateCC_LG_global%2egif%3aNonHosted link , you just need to create a free account and choose how much you want to donate than you can easily send the donation using your credit cards.
We need lots of money aways but for now if we could put at least 20 thousand euros together for start constructing demonstration devices would be great! Actually for start changing people life we are going to need lot more money!

You may also want to check this link: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/5573-we-peace-gift-humanity-stanley-meyer-water-injector-solved.html

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I wish you luck on your research, but your theory is not in line with the documentation we have from Stan. You shouldn't be asking people for donations, you have not shown any demonstration.

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I agree with you Donald.  Sebosfato and his ilk has just told us they are not one of us.  They are from another planet or dimension take your pick.  What use have they of our hard earned money?  Maybe for cash to build the device to take them "home" never to be heard from again.  I suggest "they" get a job.

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Thank you donald, i'm missing only few points that will be cleared soon. I'm asking for donations because i'm doing a great work and need some help and what i'm doing is of the interest of all human beings. 

handy
I suggest you to be more open minded! And less ironic and thankless... Do you know how a generator works? 
my job is to save you life!
I apologize you don't worry!
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Here it goes!

When you have electric fields in a capacitor where the dielectrics is a liquid and this liquid moves in a certain direction in relation to the electric fields a very high current will be generated!

This is the principle of energy generation.

When a conductor cross a magnetic field a current is induced in this conductor.

What happens is that electric fields, magnetic fields and gravity are basically the same thing. One creates the other and recreates the other and so on!

If you create a voltage field you induce a current witch causes a magnetic field. If you move a the conductor in relation to the magnetic field created you will consequently amplify the original current raising thus the voltage. and so on.
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Hello you all i'm coming up right now with info that anyone though before!
I solved the injector!

What happens when a conductor moves cutting a magnetic field?
A voltage is developed! in a direction 90° from the magnetic field lines and 90° from the movement!
What happen when we have water under a very high pressure and make it to pass thru a 0,40 mm diameter hole?
It will pass thru it at a very high speed!
water is not conductive thus ( the ionized gases were needed in the injector to create the conduction )
Lets say you have a 0,40 mm hole 6cm long (it will have a volume = to 7,5 ul ( the amount stan said was injecting for each injection cycle in each cylinder) accordingly to the volume of a cylinder calculation =((diameter/2)^2)*High)
Now you need to inject it in only 2ms what will be the speed of the water?
answer (6cm/0,002)*(7,5-7,4) ((volume of the tube - the amount of water to be injected) (this result is = to how many times the tube will fill per injection) well the result is almost 3000cm/sec
Now if you cut a magnetic flux of 15.000 gauss with water at this speed you will develop 1,7volts witch together with the ionized gas and a catalyzer element and resonance will actually crack the water!!!

Enjoy Freedom!

Now you just need to develop a certain pressure inside the tank, (only about 4 liters of water will be consumed in one hour thus even very high pressure will cost very low energy) and solenoids to do all the work...
What about this?
after 2010 years we can again walk on water...haha
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Donations are welcome! you find link on my you tube channel

Did you know that 7,4 ul of water = 13ml of gas h2+02 witch represents 3,33% of the 400cc cylinders meyer were using.

Yes he used positively ionized ambient gas...

He created the injectors to simplify and lower the costs
I believe the way to create this magnetic field will be with a coil around. Once i saw a meyers drawing of the injector with the coild around it. Only once.
His drawings of the electrodes aways remind me permanent magnets, Aways orientation check it. Yesterday i was thinking about pressure and flow and big bang! I first tried some numbers, and guess what? i took a look on the canadian injector patent and the size of the holes proposed by him were the same i was guessing, He mentioned in the patent 125 psi pump. It were well protected... Now is free! Fortunately

The electron gun had coils that reason too.

His work is based on MHD EHD magneto and electro hydro dynamics domain of plasma physics. Look for it on the mit site. Is the basics of the basics of power generation!!!!!!!! Is just like a generator works! Free Online MIT Course Materials | Physics | MIT OpenCourseWare

Even the resonant cavity and tube cell worked with this principle.

For the pressure i believe meyer used the Famous steam resonator to create, or a water pump. The volume of water to displace is very small. Look his drawings (compressor pump)

I didn't ran a car on water yet =( but soon is exactly what i want to do! i'm just short of money now and to design it well and make the pieces will cost a bit. But won't be too expensive for scale production hopefully!

Well good news!

Thank you all for being part of it!

Hope to finish this soon!

The ionizer works much the same way. EHD

If any of you want to help... help me to find out how much pressure you need to develop in a tank to make 3,7ml of water to pass thru a hole of 0,4mm of diameter every second. Would be great if any of you have the formula and know how to explain it for us! Thanks

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Why i calculated an injection timing of only 2ms:

I calculated like this because:

At 7000 rpm you have in a four cycle engine 3500 injections per injector. ( Rpm / 2 rotations per complete 4 cycles )

This gives us 58,3333 injections per second (Injections per minute / 60 seconds)

Than this mean that every 0,01714286 seconds you have a new injection ( 1 second / 58,33 injections per second)

I than divided this by 4 because there is 4 cycles and that gave me 0,004285717 seconds or 4,2 ms to complete each cycle

Considered than that in the injection cycle you will inject only during half of the movement when the piston is coming down so i divided it again by 2 so 2 ms

Than i calculated 1 second / 0,002 = 500 than i multiplied this for 7,4 ul and i got the result that if the solenoid remain open for 1 second 3,7ml of water would flow.

I did this to simplify the question:

How much pressure must a bomb develop or must be developed inside a water tank to make 3,7ml of water to pass thru a hole of 0,4mm diameter every second.

This will tell us the pressure we need to keep inside the tank or the pump pressure we are going to need for we can get the injector to work.

The speed the water will reach is easier to calculate:

The hole having 0,4mm of diameter and for say 6 cm of length give us a volume = to 0,0075396ml so if we are going to fill it with 7,4ul of water in a cycle of 0,002 seconds this mean it will fill 0nly 98% for each cycle. but this means that water will need to run over 6cm in only 0,002 seconds. than is easy I got 6/0,002*0,98 and that gave me the resultant water speed 2944 cm per second. This is only the start!

The formula was actually water speed = length in cm divided by injection time in seconds*(volume of water to be injected - volume of the hole (tube...))

The volume of a cylinder in ml is = 3,14*((Diameter in mm/2/10)^2)*length in cm

Hope now is cleaner =)

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Way to go, Sebos! Dont stop your brain!


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sebosfato

The people on this forum have often supported each other by providing products and services that help with the research and development. To name a few, Dankie's wire, Jolt's PWM, John's VIC coil, Dynodon's Wire and SS core material.

All of these people put hard work into their projects and explained them clearly with pictures and/or videos, and they got people interested.

However you are not providing a product or service, you are just asking for money for no good reason, you haven't shown your work in progress, only theories that go against the documentation.

Lots of people might be willing to invest in this technology, buy if you want an investment you are going about it all wrong, you need to have a plan, and a defined project, and a clearly laid out pitch to the proper audience.

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Thank you steve!

Voltage is considered like a pressure in the normal way of thinking, i actually think about it like a vacuum but this is just a detail... Pressure in this circuit i described will be what drive the system and will not be consumed that much, if you think about lets say we need 10 bars and we have 1 liter of free space inside our tank, if you boil 6ml of water you should build up this pressure. How much energy you would need to boil this amount of water? VERY SMAL ENERGY!!!What about using the radiator of the car to do  this( just an idea... ) 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calorie

1 cal = 4,1868 J ( 1 cal is the amount of energy you need to raise 1°C  the temperature of 1 gram of water)
we need 6ml thus that were previously at 20°C so we need to raise 80°C. So 80°*6g*4,1868j = 2009J  witch = 0,558 watts hour + the heat of vaporization witch is 2261 Joules per gram = 2009+13566= 15575J witch in watts = 4.32 watts hour. Than if you want to boil this in only 30 seconds for starting the engine fast. Lets multiply this by 60 minutes and again * 2 because there are 2 * 30 seconds in 1 minute. So = 518 watts applied for 30 seconds. 13,5v * 38,5 amps for 30 seconds.

http://www.unitconversion.org/energy/joules-to-watt-hours-conversion.html?joule%3Bfocus%3D1%3Bbase%3D1=2009&watt-hour=

Now i tell you something, once i did a test in witch i connected 200v from the wall into a 35 amps bridge rectifier than connected to 2 ss plates of 20cm x10cm separated by 5 cm thus using only 600watts or 3 amps 4 liters of tap water boiled in 1 hour. Amps were limited by the heated water and the bubbles i think. What i'm saying is maybe, maybe is a good way to create the pressure inside the tank. What do you think about it? There would be an small amount of h2 and 02 together but maybe would not explode...

Can any of you Help repeating this boiling test to check and confirm my result? (i don't have that equipment here anymore)
 
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_energy_is_needed_to_boil_water

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