We are the Peace! Gift for the Humanity: Stanley Meyer Water Injector Principle!

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Hi Fabio,

You can start here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsS0BeVeIwM there have been a few replications.  They all demonstrate the same thing.  I was in the audience and witnessed it first hand.

Andy

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Farra day in energetic forum asked what happens when an electrolyte get contact with the water and why it helps the electrolysis...
 
sebos:

You made the right question, so here goes the right answer:

When you add an electrolyte to the water what happens is that you ionized the water, Yes you already have separated the oxygen from the hydrogen. But they still together inside the water. Combined.

When you pass a current it will behave like a plasma, so 1 ion goes to one side and the other the other side, the min voltage needed 1,24 volts is the minimum physical force you need to do to keep the charges apart enough to be able to free the oxygen or hydrogen from to and allowing the electrolyte to oxidize or reduce (ionize) another water molecule again.

Whenever you add an electrolyte to the water it will lose its dielectric proprieties as it will be a dielectric with too much losses... remember this!

There are other ways to ionize the water other than adding electrolyte...

Tip when you have a voltage difference in two plates placed inside distilled water, close to the positive side it will be more acid and the one close to the negative side will be more basic. Thats what really is polarization. 

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You do know that you are saying that by adding AN electrolyte you give (or take) charge to water??? that is what ionization is. I think what you will find adding an electrolyte does is mix in conductive "particles" into to the fluid allowing electrons to flow through the fluid "easier". I see it as similar to closing the spark gap, the closer they are the less power is required for the electricity to "jump".

Now i am sure that there is some electrolytes that has a "natural" ionization to some extent. But you would need to super saturate the water to see a "real" difference.

Next your acid and basic comments, your comments are true to an extent. Your acid side (positive) is actually concentralions of H2O2 (hydrogenperoxide) which is an acid, On your negative side it "should be neutral, as with every breakdown there is no Hydrogen left over so there is nothing left unaccounted for. Please note that this relies on 3 theories, 1. hydrogen will temp-bond with the negative electrode until there is a suited solution "available" (eg another free Hydrogen also sitting on the electrode), 2. that with the bonds of the molecules weakened and with the extra "movement" of oxygen around the positive electrode formations other than O2 are possible (the occasional O3, but more likely H2O2, which would also be attracted to the positive electrode), Not accounting for "other" impurities in the water making other molecules, eg chlorine gas.

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Hi crazyewok,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-ionization_of_water

Here you will find that water is conductive even pure because self ionization. When you add a base or an acid or a salt it will ionize the water creating hydroxide ions... 

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Your link to the "self ionization" of water speaks not of requiring electrolyte to trigger this reaction but more on the basis of electron shifting. Which as it has been stated many times that there is billion of "loose" electrons everywhere, the shifting sliding and movement that happens in liquids explains the ionization. You will also note that it requires heat/electricity/chemical reaction for this to happen. Which means you need to add electrons and force them to move about for this to occur. Simply adding an electrolyte i would thing inhibits this as conductive materials can absorb electrons temporarily. Much like adding salt to water raises its boiling point...

But that is my interpretation and Wiki is, as stated before, not a gospel as it is a public contributed library...

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Hi crazyewok

I mean an electrolyte will raise or lower depending on witch electrolyte is, the hydroxide to hydronium proportion witch will cause its  ph to change, this cause the conductivity of the water to raise behaving like in a plasma when you have ionized gas for example it will conduct electricity but the ions and electrons will stay together or cations and anions will stay together until you give it more electrostatic force than it can held to split them or at least hold them "far" from each other. Force = q1 q2/ R^2 . In the case of the plasma a gas for example wont become an ionized plasma until it reach a certain temperature because only high temperature can maintain the ions and electrons far apart enough for it to continue to be a ionized gas or plasma or a gas with free ions and or electrons. ( conductive )
If something like cesium or sodium gas is added will behave like an electrolyte because will tend to link with the gas partially ionizing it making an ionic bound.

In water the 1,24 voltage is the energy needed to free the ions from the (ionizing agent) let's take sodium hydroxide, than when its already in gas form the sodium will be able to ionize another molecule over and over again.
In water when you add electrolyte it will link with the covalent electrons what is commonly called ionic bound. That's why its said to be ionized. (presence of free ions free to move)
Thats why i said they are already separated but still combined together. Like a piece of copper, it has free electrons that allow the current to flow, the copper anyway will not broke apart because this free electrons are not part of the valence bound between one copper atom and other.

Water is a polar molecule. In chemistry, polarity refers to a separation of electric charge leading to a molecule having an electric dipole. Polar molecules can bond together due to dipole–dipole intermolecular forces between one molecule (or part of a large molecule) with asymmetrical charge distribution and another molecule also with asymmetrical charge distribution. Molecular polarity is dependent on the difference in electronegativity between atoms in a compound and the asymmetry of the compound's structure. For example, a molecule of water is polar because of the unequal sharing of its electrons in a "bent" structure, whereas methane is considered non-polar because the carbon shares the electrons with the hydrogen atoms uniformly. Polarity underlies a number of physical properties including surface tension, solubility, and melting- and boiling-points....