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Re: Stan Meyer Videography and Discussion Update
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2013, 23:17:20 pm »
Got a question for you JP. Did Stan ever mention when you apply a positive and negative voltage to the cell that the water acted as the "ground" or "0 voltage" reference? I was thinking about think because Stan repeatedly talks about Water having a "Zero Net Electrical Charge" hints "ground or 0v  ;)

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Re: Stan Meyer Videography and Discussion Update
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2013, 11:07:22 am »
I do not have the electronic skills and training that you have, Tony, but my take on the process is that the gas release and eec  are modifying a flee floating ground, which is in the water of the cell. Would the circuitry in a battery charger/tender similar or related?

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Re: Stan Meyer Videography and Discussion Update
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2013, 13:18:23 pm »
If you had a water capacitor charged there is a point where the voltage potential is zero, exactly in the middle of the capacitor. If it were floating ground or isolated ground during charging.

If you connect one of the leads of a charged capacitor to ground?

Basically nothing because the net charge is zero, the only think is that you are going to relocate the zero potential.

Ex you connect the negative side of a capacitor charged to 40kv while isolated, to ground. what happens?

Well as the negative side is more negative than ground electrons should go to ground? If this could happen you would end up with charge imbalance on the capacitor? I guess the answer to that is to think in this way since a capacitor work based on bound link charges the above statement is impossible since the polarization of the dielectric holds the electrons or the capacitor would get discharged!
     
This ability allow the choice of an arbitrary ground in whatever circuit and still calculate the potentials unaffectedly. 

Stan repeatedly talks about water having zero charge because it has zero charge but is not neutral under all conditions.

If you apply a greater E field than the one that holds those ions together they will split apart and now you have a zone of net positive charges and another with negative charges. (still net zero)

Now if you neutralize this second field but allow some electrons to burn off from the circuit during this discharge than its clear the water will take up a positive charge probably going out in gas form... 

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Re: Stan Meyer Videography and Discussion Update
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2013, 14:36:56 pm »
The reason I ask is because of this diagram that Stan shows. It has always made me wonder.

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Re: Stan Meyer Videography and Discussion Update
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2013, 17:14:05 pm »
I guess the reason derives exactly from the way i gave the example. He mean that in the middle of the cell you have exactly zero volts, and water is like ground thereto a source of positive or negative charges to some extent if the circuit is close.

Do you agree?

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Re: Stan Meyer Videography and Discussion Update
« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2013, 17:21:54 pm »
This concept reminds me of a simple dual voltage supply... Possibly  a 3 tube cell with the center electrode acting as common. Some how induction core (619) provides this common node point within the cavity from where its labeled 0v.

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Re: Stan Meyer Videography and Discussion Update
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2013, 17:26:02 pm »
exactly outlawstc !

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Re: Stan Meyer Videography and Discussion Update
« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2013, 21:20:31 pm »
 3 tubes enclosed in one another and the center tube not connected to anything or to ground ..  the inner - and outer + is this how meyer had them?
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