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Re: Stan Meyer Videography and Discussion Update
« Reply #40 on: December 13, 2013, 14:51:48 pm »
the outer tubes are both positive and the inner tubes are grounded .. discharging from ground to positive ..

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Re: Stan Meyer Videography and Discussion Update
« Reply #41 on: December 13, 2013, 15:12:58 pm »
No no no, the arrows come from the positive left tube to the disc which is connected to both inner tubes and than they continue in the direction of the other outer tube. Take a closer look.


Anyway i'm just pointing that maybe stan used different things than he described.

Actually i just found yesterday a patent that talks about capturing electrons from earth and it has a closed loop (just like the shorted wiper arm in stan tune coil, than its somehow grounded and has the ability to steal electrons from ground and power a circuit consuming a fraction of the power delivered.

They cited the EPG patent. Nilson Barbosa is the name of the inventors... they are from north brazil, i'm thinking about visiting their lab to talk to them.

This indicate to me that maybe meyer was using this kind of new technical effect to extract the electrons from water somehow, and being able to power a load.

They suggest that they created a system where the lenz law works in reverse mode.

 
IT seems to me that they use a magnetic propriety of the electron to dump it to the circuit and not the electric charge only like would be plain simple induction.

http://www.rexresearch.com/barbosa/barbosa.htm
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Re: Stan Meyer Videography and Discussion Update
« Reply #42 on: December 13, 2013, 18:21:44 pm »
the image only shows 2 sets but there are 9 sets in total .. if he made them + - alternating then two sets close to each other would have both + or - which doesnt make sense.. except if he drew 9 sets to misguide us.

if he did them like I say he could have used positive half rectified pulse spending half the energy and maybe getting some energy out.. his purpose was to vibrate molecular bonds which would explain this.. he would get full waveform from half waveform..without spending energy for this.

why meyer always used tubes?

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Re: Stan Meyer Videography and Discussion Update
« Reply #43 on: December 13, 2013, 19:19:24 pm »
I guess is because its the closest geometry to spherical geometry

Basic a hollow conductor, if you get a charge inside it it appear outside but the electric field inside is zero.

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Re: Stan Meyer Videography and Discussion Update
« Reply #44 on: December 13, 2013, 21:21:51 pm »
yes this has got me thinking he must have used the hollow conductor with a purpose.. otherwise he could have used parallel plates , the E field inside is not zero but no outside electric fields are inside \

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Re: Stan Meyer Videography and Discussion Update
« Reply #45 on: December 14, 2013, 02:05:31 am »
Got a question for you JP. Did Stan ever mention when you apply a positive and negative voltage to the cell that the water acted as the "ground" or "0 voltage" reference? I was thinking about think because Stan repeatedly talks about Water having a "Zero Net Electrical Charge" hints "ground or 0v  ;)

I seem to remember something about "dead" short condition or something...don't remember if a good or bad thing...
I think it is when the 'current leaks' creating the short IN THE CAP...

Make sense?

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Re: Stan Meyer Videography and Discussion Update
« Reply #46 on: December 14, 2013, 02:08:32 am »
I guess the reason derives exactly from the way i gave the example. He mean that in the middle of the cell you have exactly zero volts, and water is like ground thereto a source of positive or negative charges to some extent if the circuit is close.

Do you agree?

Seems so, then the di-pole water molecule reacts.....don't forget..it is supposed to be a dielectric...

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Re: Stan Meyer Videography and Discussion Update
« Reply #47 on: December 14, 2013, 08:47:47 am »
I guess the reason derives exactly from the way i gave the example. He mean that in the middle of the cell you have exactly zero volts, and water is like ground thereto a source of positive or negative charges to some extent if the circuit is close.

Do you agree?

Seems so, then the di-pole water molecule reacts.....don't forget..it is supposed to be a dielectric...

jp

Look closely at this photo.
Look how thick the positive wires are from the Altrntr to switches and switches to positive outer tubes individually..
He had to have the huge car altrntr inductor to get near Matching the capacitance And make enough gas to run the buggy at idle as demonstrated in the backyard video.
He then wants the injectors because you can't do it the first way anymore unless using a bug..
Thus the Greanue "Explosions in Water" paper..

Peter Graneau is well known for a long series of experiments in classical electrodynamics performed during 35 years in University and industrial laboratories on both sides of the Atlantic. The results he obtained were consistent with the old Newtonian electrodynamics which flourished in Europe during the nineteenth century.  Dr. Graneau has published his findings in more than forty papers in prestigious physics and engineering journals and in his 1985 book “Ampere-Neuman Electrodynamics of Metals.” Some of his work has been sponsored by the U.S. National Science Foundation, which commended him for his efforts.  The Graneaus make their home in the town of Concord Massachusetts. They love nature, and they walk and canoe where Henry David Thoreau lived.  In this beautiful area, Peter Graneau has time to contemplate the course physics may take in the next century.

Neal Graneau was born in London, England, and attended Fenn School in Concord, Phillips Exeter Academy in New Hampshire, and Winchester College in England. He traveled with school theater and poetry groups, and played piano recitals. Neal Graneau studied physics at King’s College of London University, and at Oxford University as a graduate student. He is currently a full time researcher at Oxford. For ten years, he spent his summers at his father’s MIT laboratory. There this father and son team researched, invented, built, and performed the experiments described in this book.  When not at work, Neal finds himself to relax by playing the drums in an Oxford group.

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