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Re: who wants to earn 30,000 us dollars?
« Reply #40 on: April 23, 2019, 20:37:13 pm »
Hi Tektrical,

I think that you are the only one knowing about this plasma diode. Whatever i google, i find nothing.
Ok, not the proces you describe, but i find related info.
What i learned from my own tests is that the flame of HHO is very conductive.
So, there are electrons in there and ions in the flame....



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« Reply #41 on: April 24, 2019, 05:46:04 am »
One search engine I like is Google.com/patents.  For instance, entering the terms

magnet ion generator

returns a list which includes an AC generator:

https://patents.google.com/patent/US3257571?oq=US3257571

This patent (on line) cotntains many interesting links to other parents.

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« Reply #42 on: April 25, 2019, 01:55:07 am »
very interesting...!

/i guess this is totally related to the pressure it can pulse thru .. .

the magnetic field with the velocity would create a decent voltage


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« Reply #43 on: April 25, 2019, 03:15:35 am »
very interesting...!

/i guess this is totally related to the pressure it can pulse thru .. .

the magnetic field with the velocity would create a decent voltage

I agree.  And the length and diameter of the feedback tubes would have to be tuned to the flow rate velocity to maintain a precise output frequency.  It might be better, at first, to build the diode version, without feedback, then use an inverter with the output DC?

If this works well enough, we can get our $300,000 by building and selling these units.  No one likes the noise from a piston engine driven generator.

This looks like something which can be 3D printed, using the right kind of ink.  Like transformer laminate varnish, a high temperature insulator made from alumina, magnesium oxide (Milk of Magnesia), iron oxide, and sodium silicate (automotive stop leak).  Of course, the electrodes would have to be installed manually.


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« Reply #44 on: May 02, 2019, 19:13:34 pm »
very interesting...!

/i guess this is totally related to the pressure it can pulse thru .. .

the magnetic field with the velocity would create a decent voltage

I agree.  And the length and diameter of the feedback tubes would have to be tuned to the flow rate velocity to maintain a precise output frequency.  It might be better, at first, to build the diode version, without feedback, then use an inverter with the output DC?

If this works well enough, we can get our $300,000 by building and selling these units.  No one likes the noise from a piston engine driven generator.

This looks like something which can be 3D printed, using the right kind of ink.  Like transformer laminate varnish, a high temperature insulator made from alumina, magnesium oxide (Milk of Magnesia), iron oxide, and sodium silicate (automotive stop leak).  Of course, the electrodes would have to be installed manually.

i am in.....Lets make it work and sell some...
This weekend i will run some tests...
See if i can catch some electrons  from my alu h2 candle setup

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Re: who wants to earn 30,000 us dollars?
« Reply #45 on: May 03, 2019, 02:04:08 am »
Glad to hear it, Steve.  I've been testing a regular candle flame.  We can share notes if you want, but I don't want to distract your initial ingenuity.  (My goal, for now, is to charge a car battery).  I have found that furnace cement is a castable refractory, up to around 2700 degrees.

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Re: who wants to earn 30,000 us dollars?
« Reply #46 on: May 06, 2019, 17:07:50 pm »
Corona wire tests with a candle flame indicate the flame does have a charge.  Normally, DC corona wind blows the flame.  But when the flame is centered between two opposing magnets, the flame is pulled towards the corona wire.  This is a fairly strong effect.  One of the magnets got hot and lost most of its field, so it might be best to use a coil around the fire.  This will separate charges towards the outside of the flame and at the center.  Any current produced by the flame could be fed through the coil.  Efficiency might still need to be addressed and, perhaps, improved.

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« Reply #47 on: May 06, 2019, 20:34:32 pm »
Corona wire tests with a candle flame indicate the flame does have a charge.  Normally, DC corona wind blows the flame.  But when the flame is centered between two opposing magnets, the flame is pulled towards the corona wire.  This is a fairly strong effect.  One of the magnets got hot and lost most of its field, so it might be best to use a coil around the fire.  This will separate charges towards the outside of the flame and at the center.  Any current produced by the flame could be fed through the coil.  Efficiency might still need to be addressed and, perhaps, improved.

How about using the magnet in combination with steel or iron bar / plate who has some length?
The steel will become magnetic, but the magnet it self will not be in the hot zone...

I tried today to get my candle burning, but after 2 attempts with backfire, i must say that the amount of gas produced is not enough.
I need more of these little buckets with koh and alu, and connect the output together.
Maybe that way i can start as well with catching electrons...