who wants to earn 30,000 us dollars?

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what happens is as follows:

The reaction of Aluminium with Sodium Hydroxide is a Displacement reaction (where one element is more reactive than the other and displaces it in a reaction). Therefore, when both react with each other, it would form Aluminium Hydroxide (AlHO) and Sodium (Na).

I have seen the salt crystals and i have seen gray powder on the bottum.

Tektrical, this " system" is a 1 electrode system.
Do you suggest to make a 2 electrode system?
What materials? (of course 1 of aluminium)
Is current not shutting down the reaction?


7kw for 300 usd is really cheap.... Make one run on this. Learn the needed leassons and move to a second one....
I will try here something with filters and a very small aquarium pump....
If i can keep the water clean and the naoh working, then i will try to make my 3,5kwh gen run on it....

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NaOH is a base because when dissolved in water it dissociates into Na+ and OH- ions. It is the OH- (hydroxyl ion) which makes NaOH a base. In classical term a base is defined as a compound which reacts with an acid to form salt and water as depicted by the following equation. NaOH+HCl=NaCl+H2O. This equation means a molecule of sodium hydroxide reacts with a molecule of hydrochloric acid to form a molecule of sodium chloride(salt) and a molecule of water. In terms of Lewis theory a base is defined as a compound which donates a pair of electrons and an acid is defined as the one which accepts the pair of electrons. OH- ion (anion) from NaOH would donate its pair of electrons to the proton (H+) of acid to from water as shown below. OH- + H+ = H2O. This proves that NaOH (caustic soda) is a base. Not only is NaOH a base but also in reality it is a strong base and is an alkali (giving an alkaline solution in water). In terms of pH if 40 g of NaOH is dissolved in water to make a litre of its aqueous solution (1 N NaOH) the pH of the resulting solution will be 14. Similarly the pH of 4g of NaOH in a litre of aqueous solution is 13. A solution having pH 7 is neutral and a solution with a pH lower than 7 is acidic and a solution with a pH higher than 7 is basic. The pH of 1N HCl is 0.

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Alumina is refined back to aluminium by mixing it with creolite, melting the mixture at 1300 degrees Celsius, then electrolyzing it with six volts and 100,000 amps.  Wouldn't it be great if we could just apply some VIC pulses to the cell, to keep splitting the Oxygen out of the alumina?  Then the aluminium would only be like a catalyst.

Out here bare land is $1,500 for an acre and a half.  They won't set a power pole without a septic tank, so that's another $5,000.  Harbor Freight has a 7KW generator head for $300.  So seven of those would be $2,100.  So that's $8,600, plus the first couple of month's supply of fuel metal.  And the cost of assembly.  I have an extra vehicle with a strong engine to crank the generators, so the whole thing looks doable.

1500 for an acre? Thats insane cheap!  In which area are you?
2100 usd for 49kwh is also really good.
However, i know that those little motors are less efficient as one big one, with hydrogen....or hho

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Question to all readers:

How much kwh are you allowed to sell back to your grid providers? Is there a limit?
I would really like to know this....

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i checked some of those cheap gensets and no one delivered the promised kwh...

My calculations are an example, btw.
In my case and in most ideal situation.
I dont know what you guys will get per kwh and i dont know what you pay for alu and naoh or koh...
For me, even if the costs where double triple etc it would make loads of money....

cheers!

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1500 for an acre? Thats insane cheap!  In which area are you?
2100 usd for 49kwh is also really good.
However, i know that those little motors are less efficient as one big one, with hydrogen....or hho

I'm 40 miles west of the Grand Canyon Skywalk, 45 miles north of Kingman, Arizona.  (That puts me 50 miles from the grocery store).

The generators I'm looking at are just the heads - they don't have motors.  So they'd have to be ganged, to be driven by a car engine.  Like the YouTube video of the motorcycle with 13 chain saw motors.  I'm going to contact the power company about the co-generation situation.  Some utilitys will subsidise the installation, up to 40% in one case.

And I'm leaning towards a mechanical approach.  Spinning a drum against tightly stretched brass wires is similar to the system which was shown many years ago as being capable of producing enough hydrogen to run a car.  I don't remember if that article mentioned electrolyte, or if any will be needed.

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My calculations are an example, btw.
In my case and in most ideal situation.
I dont know what you guys will get per kwh and i dont know what you pay for alu and naoh or koh...
For me, even if the costs where double triple etc it would make loads of money....

cheers!

I think the numbers in your opening post are off by a factor of 10.  50kW times 5 is 250, rather than 2500.  Sorry I didn't catch that sooner.  So that would be $3.50 per hour.  Still, nothing to sneeze at.  Also my cost for the metal looks like about four times of yours.  So this could still double my yearly income.  Unless I use some other way to get the hydrogen.  Now that I'm all fired up.

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My calculations are an example, btw.
In my case and in most ideal situation.
I dont know what you guys will get per kwh and i dont know what you pay for alu and naoh or koh...
For me, even if the costs where double triple etc it would make loads of money....

cheers!

I think the numbers in your opening post are off by a factor of 10.  50kW times 5 is 250, rather than 2500.  Sorry I didn't catch that sooner.  So that would be $3.50 per hour.  Still, nothing to sneeze at.  Also my cost for the metal looks like about four times of yours.  So this could still double my yearly income.  Unless I use some other way to get the hydrogen.  Now that I'm all fired up.

Thanks....aiaiai....didnt see that one...
Still it is profitable
I will change the first post.

So, if you are set to make a 100,000 usd you must use 3 car engines with an alternator capacity of at least 120kwh in totall....
With lets say a 10,000 amount of costs, thats still a lot of money..