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Re: New video: Edward Mitchel
« Reply #96 on: November 24, 2015, 14:53:53 pm »
Ed, I got banned from the Heretical Builder's forum for publicly complaining about a lack of moderation of your verbal abuse.  Did you get banned for what you were doing back then?  These forums will always treat certain people differently, even unfairly.  That's part of the suppression mechanism.  If we start pointing fingers, then YOU are part of that mechanism too.  Now you'll dump on me some more, following me from one forum to the next.

edit:  The moral being, "Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone".

In this forum it is clear that what I have to say, even though it is experiment based, is unwanted here. The last time I was posting I was attacked just for being black and not only did the person(s) who did it not get punished by I was banned for being attacked. If that seems backwards it's because it is. The reason for these attacks is quite clear, in the experiments I have shown no one is able to duplicate the results I am getting so it would seem that jealousy made it's way into the hearts of the masses here. Putting that aside for the moment what I have shown everyone is my actual experimental data and pictures to go along with it. Yes, I have reached 9.3-4kv being applied to the plates of the exciter array but this falls short of the needed 10-20kv as stated by Meyer in his patents for the working voltages of the exciter array. I ran into problems that all of you are going to run into once you reach these voltage levels. Unfortunately this is where most of you will be left behind as the solution to the problem is a costly one and most if not all of you simply can't afford the solution.

So, where does this leave us? Well, to be honest it leaves all of you never to be able to follow what I have shown as it's simply outside of your abilities to afford now meaning your out of the game. With this technology the scientific method is a must as there are simply too many unknowns that must be figured out as trying to sit down reasoning this out simply isn't going to work as you need hands on experiments performed so you can carefully observe and learn from the results. Making use of the scientific method will force you to ask the right questions just as long as you are honest with yourself and pay attention to eye witness accounts of Meyer's technology in action as what they saw you will need to be seeing with your experiments. If the water is getting warm stop and figure out what you are doing wrong. If you are not getting high voltages again stop and figure out what you are doing wrong. Note, not until you figure out how to get the voltages up and above 10kv can or should you be looking for jaw dropping gas production.  When you start getting gas production you must take MMW numbers to make sure it is not Dr. Faraday style electrolysis. Taking careful temperature readings will confirm that as well for normal electrolysis will heat up the water at a predictable rate as well as produce gases at a predictable rate.

Now I take you to a bible scripture that I find relevant to this technology as it goes to those that put their pride and ego above the needs of the many. And for those of you that don't like the bible in this technology take it up with Stanley A. Meyer as he quoted Job 38:22-23 to explain this this technology and it's place in our future. Mathew 15:14 "Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch" Beware of these Blind Leaders that put pride and ego above all else making themselves look better than they actually are by putting forth lies in the place of real provable work. Some of them are paid to be here to make sure this technology never see's the light of day others are just puffed up full of pride and ego to the point nothing else matters to them other than their need to appear better than everyone else. The one thing you will notice with these people is the lack of any experimental data to back up what they are saying or showing. They will make claims that they are getting much higher voltages to their cells than Meyer gives us are to be the working voltages for the exciter arrays but not have jaw dropping gas production to go along with it. They will show their setups producing gases but refuse to give anyone any MMW numbers so that their work can be properly evaluated. And most of the time they will refuse to do any timed temperature test to prove that they are getting the same effects as told to us by the eye witness accounts of Stanley Meyer's work in action given to us in the Arthur C. Clarke video stating that it will run for a half hour and the temperature never goes up.

You all have to start holding people accountable for their actions and don't be afraid to ask the hard questions, like what type of test equipment are you using as if they don't have a differential probe they simply can't view this technology correctly. If they don't have a set up that is even remotely like that of Stanley A Meyer's then how can they expect to get the same results? Don Gable gave us all we needed to know in order to build the exciter array's correctly along with many other items. Sure they cost a lot to build but it comes with the territory if one wishes to pursue this field of study. You should be able to follow someone else's work providing that you also have the proper test equipment and similar cells from which to work and compare notes with. For those of you that get left behind don't take it personal and start adding in what you think will happen from your mind as this technology is very resistant to intuition and thus requires hands on experiments and at any point you find yourselves unable to perform the experiments simply choose to sit this one out as you will be doing everyone a favor by doing so.

In the video what people failed to ask me was is the unit getting hot? Well, the answer to that question is no. I ran the unit all day long and it's temperature never changed so I must be doing something right, agreed? In the video I showed a little above 4kv being applied to the exciter array but that falls short of what Meyer tells us are the working voltages for the exciter array being 10-20kv, correct? Thus you saw no jaw dropping gas production as I didn't reach the threshold for ionization with just 4kv being applied to the plates of the exciter array. I have improved much since then but as a result have run into problems that needed costly solutions to be able to correct those problems.

So, now where does this leave us and where to I stand? I can't answer for all of you but I will keep working on this technology at a pace I can handle. As for showing and sharing my work that remains to be seen as from my being kicked out for standing up for myself against racial attacks while the guilty go unpunished it leaves me terribly vexed.

Until the next time.
Take care,
TGS
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Re: New video: Edward Mitchel
« Reply #97 on: November 24, 2015, 19:38:15 pm »
pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff fffffffffffff
Really?
Edward, i like that you are trying to replicate Meyer and all yr effort that you are putting in.
But please stop feeling sorry for yr self and blaming others and whatever else you try to achieve.
This is also no religion oriented forum.
Talk technology here.
Its that simple.

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Re: New video: Edward Mitchel
« Reply #98 on: November 24, 2015, 19:56:06 pm »
So my truth telling is considered verbal abuse huh? Interesting. It just goes to shows how far people actually are from the truth of this technology. As for following you around talk to Steve as he has the history behind why I returned to this forum and you will be surprised to find out it has nothing to do with you.

Everything I ever said about your version of this technology was true as with this technology you don't have a pot or a window to throw it out of. You don't have a WFC built to Meyer's standards, you don't have a differential probe, you don't have a properly built VIC transformer, need I go on? You have nothing but a bunch of untested ideas being compared to my actual experimental data with all the said components. These are the facts are they not? I have built all of these things and have been running experiments on them getting results that no one else is getting currently working on this technology. These results when explained sound just like Meyer's words on how this technology actually works from his descriptions... you know high voltage while restricting the flow of amps and the water bath not heating up over time and all of that.

I'd make real important breakthroughs that would help everyone get their set ups running like Meyer's words describes and you would treat them as nothing of importance telling everyone there was nothing to see here. But unknown to you some did give what I was showing a try and got the exact same results I was getting by getting high voltage while restricting the flow of amps into the mA range after they gave what I was showing everyone a try while ignoring you. You see what makes me different is I am running experiments that everyone can follow given they are willing to build this technology using the information given to us by Don Gable and get the necessary test equipment needed to be able to read and view this technology. My work can be followed and those that have followed it are getting the exact same results I am getting which in the world of science is known as second source verification. I do things by trial and error making use of the scientific method to solve problems and then try again and repeat until I get it right. Why on earth you, or anyone else, would resist this type of hands on approach is beyond me?

In a heated debate between one of Max's supporters I got them to admit that I am the only one, other than those that chose to follow my work, that is showing voltages this high being applied to the water fuel cell while restricting the flow of amps at the same time right now. Which shows there are some good people left in this world as normally when I ask questions like this people fall back on pride and ego and start making up stories that can never be verified. The "Blind Leaders" I talked about are much worse as they will not only start making up stories but will refuse to do any test that would allow someone to actually evaluate their work properly, IE, providing any MMW numbers or running timed temperature test showing there the water isn't being heated up while they push amps through the water as the voltages they are at are simply far below the threshold for ionization to take place. They make one claim after another but none can be verified or copied by others. They suffer from a need to be always be better than everyone else even if they are not provably. Most of the time they can not be saved as they have backed themselves into a corner with all of their lies from which they would have to swallow their puffed up pride and ego and that is something they are simply unwilling to do. In my last dealings with a Blind Leader and his followers they learned the power of reflection in that I'd ask them a question and they would in turn reflect that question back on me trying to make it sound as if I was fishing for information. But that type of fighting relies on someone not answering the questions so I simply answered the question they refused to answer. But then I realized that it works both ways as they didn't know the answer to the questions I was asking and figured out a way for me to give them the information that they needed so that they would be able to answer these questions in the future if asked. But I'm a lot smarter than that and only answered questions that can be easily read in the patents if one just takes the time to read through them to find the solutions to the questions I was asking. I didn't answer any questions that require one to learn from actually performing the experiments.

There is one thing that I do know that in time will hold to be true and that is the road I am on right now others will have to travel down these same paths that I have already been on as it's only a matter of time. I can say this as I understand the core science behind this technology and there are only a few ways to go about breaking the bonds of the water molecules like this. It's not ego or pride talking it's just what I have learned from trial and error with actual hands on experimentation making use of the scientific method as a tool to help guide my efforts.

Well, time to get back to work.
Good experimenting everyone take care,
TGS

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Re: New video: Edward Mitchel
« Reply #99 on: November 24, 2015, 22:10:43 pm »
Hi
Ive just seen latest 60mins usa , silicon valley is investing endless millions in driverless cars aswell as electric .  their timeline is 2030 everything will be going their way .

any alternative to their product or projection is in direct conflict with the investment program

retrofit H2 system is only compatable with past and present tech , Im sure they are quite comfortable sacrificing the internal combustion engine itself in order to bring in the electric world
the only people running IE will be society out siders , out laws and rebels , because no doubt , what appears to be "greenies" will be the ones pushing to out law IE + diesel engines ........greenies like exxon etc

from my point of view , everyone working on H2 tech have limited time line no matter what technique is used
any cooperation is good stuff

so thats Ed in the pic , the other people partners in co ?

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Re: New video: Edward Mitchel
« Reply #100 on: November 24, 2015, 22:24:18 pm »
I'm sorry Ed but I don't get it???

Why are you so hell bent on claiming that you are 'The only one' who knows how Stans tech works, 'The only one' who has successfully replicated Stan's work and why is it that everyone else who has had success has only had it because of what you have done?


Do you think that by claiming on the forums and youtube and the internet that you were the first that somehow that gives you the sole rights to the technology? Or that somehow you deserve all the credit?


I can tell you right now that you'll get no credit, why? Because that's how the world works buddy. Once this tech is in the mainstream people aren't going to go searching through the internet forums trying to find out who claimed they did it first to make sure that person gets the credit/glory/money/fame/whatever.

There were people who did it before Stan. There are others now that have done it. It was done by the people who own Stan's estate like 5 years ago. I know someone who has had a working unit for over two years now. I also know of 3 others who right now have working replications. Your not 'The only one' nor have you ever been 'The only one', hell, you haven't even been the first.
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Re: New video: Edward Mitchel
« Reply #101 on: November 24, 2015, 23:12:24 pm »

retrofit H2 system is only compatable with past and present tech , Im sure they are quite comfortable sacrificing the internal combustion engine itself in order to bring in the electric world...

from my point of view , everyone working on H2 tech have limited time line no matter what technique is used.


We should still keep in mind that Meyer's system was Over Unity, due to the Cold Fusion aspect - a process which happened inside his ICE.  This aspect can't be duplicated by an electric motor, even with an electrolysis fed fuel cell.  People with EV's will be tied to the grid, paying far more for their transportation than will be needed with the alternative.

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Re: New video: Edward Mitchel
« Reply #102 on: November 25, 2015, 03:27:44 am »
Interesting replies, but the primary question I asked was never answered.

Why on earth you, or anyone else, would resist this type of hands on approach is beyond me?

Do these look like claims to you?
(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y320/h2opower/IMG_0677_zps3daacae1.jpg)

(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y320/h2opower/IMG_4515_zpsf51b3189.jpg)

(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y320/h2opower/IMG_4427_zps2e5d5c57.jpg)

These are not mere claims as I have built these things and performed test in the real world and not just in my head. These people you speak of I don't know them and furthermore they are not in forums like these or did I miss something? As for this technology being over unity no, it's just that the science is new, but the energies can be added up using Albert Einstein's E=MC2. Massive is right in the we all should be working together but that is not what takes place in forums like these.

What is clear to me is that in this forum Black Lives "Don't" Matter for actions speak louder than words ever could. I was wronged in this forum as the actions taken against me are not just claims as they actually did happen. But I guess the question Adriank ask is basically why do I sit at the seat of judgement concerning this technology, am I correct in this line of thinking? The answer to this questions is easy, I did the work to get to where I am at concerning my understanding of the science of how this technology actually works. It wasn't solved in a day but took many years of hard work, time and money spent, while learning from each and every failure. These people that you speak of I simply don't know them so why don't you introduce me to them or show me their work here in this forum right now?! I am basing what I say on what I can see of the work of others and I tell you I don't know these people you are talking about and have never heard of or seen any of their work in this technology. Do I know these people and have failed to give them credit? I require hard proof of what you are telling me so that I may know of these others that you are claiming of right now. Until that happens my claim stands true as I don't know what I don't know as again I don't know of anyone else getting the results I am getting right now.

As for how history will judge me, who knows? More than likely they will treat me as they have always treated my people by pretending we don't exist. I notice these things when I look back on the history of my people and see the things they have done but never given credit for doing so. But, like most I can do nothing for how others chose to write about me or leave me totally out of their writings in the future. All I can do is keep driving on towards wherever this technology leads me and/or needs me. I can't changed the hearts of men who's forefathers have brought them up thinking it is right to treat my people the way they have been treating them from one generation to the next for hundreds of years now. All I can do is make sure I live according to my beliefs as I have no control over the hearts of others.

Take care everyone,
TGS

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Re: New video: Edward Mitchel
« Reply #103 on: November 25, 2015, 03:37:10 am »

  People with EV's will be tied to the grid, paying far more for their transportation than will be needed with the alternative.


The electric world will be more restrictive than ever because of environmental laws .  here in NZ they are phasing out open fire places , so people have to have heat pumps or GAS !


Once upon a time man discovered fire .......... one day in the not too distant future, man will do time for lighting one .

so , one day IC engine most definitely WILL be phased out and it will be out lawed

any H2 inventions that do work had better be brought forward because sitting on it  wont have any pay off