ionized HHO

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great stuff guys!

Has anyone ever looked into tunnel ionization? it seems that its not restricted by classical physics.

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Actually sub-sequential ionization is possible if the relation between electric field and mean free path is right. This mean that most the molecules in the volume will get ionized at once by a cascading event... however if this happens it should appear to the source as a short circuit, since ionized atoms will hit the cathode and extract electrons from it.

A forum member use to tell this theory in the past, without knowing this high current problem... since he never came across it. 

If you think about this is where a choke is needed in home laser devices, to impede shorting the source... since the coil will fight changes in current.

with water should be the same?
raise the volts up to the point where current flows?

Interesting!

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After all the ionizing research is done... what then?  Im wandering what are the goals of the ones posting in this thread or even those that have yet to post with the ionizing research? 
Steve what are your goals with the ionizing research?
Seb what are your goals with the ionizing research?
Dave?
Please be as specific as possible and with just a first goal for now please.

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After all the ionizing research is done... what then?  Im wandering what are the goals of the ones posting in this thread or even those that have yet to post with the ionizing research? 
Steve what are your goals with the ionizing research?
Seb what are your goals with the ionizing research?
Dave?
Please be as specific as possible and with just a first goal for now please.

Thats simple.
To be able to use water as a fuel in the future.
Run generators on it.
Ionizing should reduce the amount of gas needed.
I had ran two engines on hho.
With different types of cells.
The more i followed the electrolysis path, the more i ended no where.
The engines ran worse and worse and i produced more and more gas!
Efficiency of ca 150% faraday did not bring better running engines.
Now i understand why.
You now understand?

Steve

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The way I see it, at this point...

Unstable gases, such as, H+ and O+, have a greater energy output from it's combustion than a typical O2 + H2 reaction. Agreed?

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energy from hydrogen 1kg powerful 2.5x than energy from gasoline 1kg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_density) .but why run worse on engine?cause burn rate(325cm/s).engine need pressure(heat to air) or power to push a piston.the meaning is recycled non-combustion gas back to fire again(maintain burn rate to ~45cm/s).that can fix that problem.

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geenee

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I guess it runs worst because probably theres too much water content in the gas... or the burn rate is wrong...

Probably  the intake of the engine should have a valve to regulate the amount air going into the mixture... probably some vacuum would be required to achieve the best mix... maybe some pressure charging..

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energy from hydrogen 1kg powerful 2.5x than energy from gasoline 1kg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_density) .but why run worse on engine?cause burn rate(325cm/s).engine need pressure(heat to air) or power to push a piston.the meaning is recycled non-combustion gas back to fire again(maintain burn rate to ~45cm/s).that can fix that problem.

thanks
geenee

Geenee,

The burnrate is another issue. From my point of view, if you have less and less hydrogen in your mix, you automatically lower the burnrate of the gasmix in the cylinder, because of the nitrogen in the ambient air.

Steve