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Re: Who is right discusion
« Reply #48 on: January 16, 2016, 20:44:28 pm »
Ed, I have no problem agreeing to disagree with you, That's why I have keep most of what I know to myself. Anytime anyone expresses an opinion based on facts it only causes trouble in the community of Stan's Tech. I have always said to everyone that your Vic and Cell will work, You can ask anyone that I have talked to and they will confirm that I said it. It's just for a long time now I knew what your problem has been and keep it to myself until yesterday. I gave you and everyone what they are doing wrong over at RWG forum. You have more than enough voltage in your cell to get it to work, and that's all I been saying. You don't need to keep throwing voltage to it unless your trying to fracture the water. And you will never do that with a copper coil Vic and a Water Gap as wide as Stan's resonate cavity cells. You stated in the post above you are trying to ionize the atoms, and I agree with you 100%. But you will never ionize the atoms while they are in the form of a water molecule. You have to break the molecule first into hydrogen and oxygen in order to ionize those atoms. As long as the atoms are in the form of the water molecule you will never break them apart by throwing voltage at the water molecule unless your are trying to fracture the water molecule. Your biggest problem is your creating the polarization process and loosing it with the gate signal. The Gate signal is superimposed over the polarization voltage. All I ask is, Give it a try. Then come back and tell everyone I was wrong. That's the best I can do to agree to disagree. It's easy for you to do this, Just have Gunther to program the P-Gen to have offset control on the gate frequency for you. If it don't work out for you then it's a simple process to go back to what you were doing. Just keep this in mind, everyone will be trying it this way since i made it public, It's up to you if you want to try it or not. It don't matter to me either way if you do or don't.

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Re: Who is right discusion
« Reply #49 on: January 17, 2016, 06:21:14 am »
Do you remember when I used Ris's books to prove I was correct about something? Right now I could do the same thing concerning Meyer's technology as science can explain how it all works. I even created new general theory based on the science behind this technology that are shown to be taking place in nature also as I found the examples that go along with the theory through observation. One shows the water being broken down by way of ionization the other by taking away the electrons from the atoms that make up the water molecules. Plus I have found a whole lot more things taking place in nature that prove the theory to be valid. Remember I am a man of science and one of my goals was to come up with a new theory for the science books.

I'll look into what you had said when I have completed my work on this as I have to get back to the Gas Processor once I am done with the Water Fuel Capacitor. One thing I want you to understand is Meyer himself says the working voltage of the resonant cavity is 1kv or more as those are not my words. Thus for an exciter array like mines it will take 10kv or more as I have them wired in series. Just allow me to reach this benchmark voltage Meyer set for us as then I will know for sure. Hopefully the new setup will reach 20kv or more being applied to the water fuel cell at measurement points D&E.

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Re: Who is right discusion
« Reply #50 on: January 17, 2016, 07:28:18 am »
Tgs i changed my water to 0ppm water i had here... and i got 6kv on 6 cells in series... measured across the cells with the differential probe... only few few bubbles appear... the 6kv come in the form of a peak...was consuming from 160 to 200w

i would post scopeshots if its worth

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« Reply #51 on: January 17, 2016, 13:59:05 pm »
sabosfato, 200w with tiny bubbles is far below from Faraday electrolysis.

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« Reply #52 on: January 17, 2016, 14:33:18 pm »
sabosfato, 200w with tiny bubbles is far below from Faraday electrolysis.

I´m looking for start a reaction that if started theoretically will generate endless amounts of gas... i´m nor really worried now about efficiency... i´m looking for breaking the molecule!

more specifically turning off the covallent force of the molecules in bulk

i was cosidering if i had some sort of laser superimposed on the electrical polarization process could be just enough for doing that...  thats because a laser is able to do a fast transistion for the oxygen orbital electrons in the way my theory requires..

if i was able to i would already input killowatts of power... to see what comes

the problem is that is already very hard to get this levels of rms power..

the sound of the transformer is really loud
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« Reply #53 on: January 17, 2016, 18:08:06 pm »
sabosfato, 200w with tiny bubbles is far below from Faraday electrolysis.

I´m looking for start a reaction that if started theoretically will generate endless amounts of gas... i´m nor really worried now about efficiency... i´m looking for breaking the molecule!

more specifically turning off the covallent force of the molecules in bulk

i was cosidering if i had some sort of laser superimposed on the electrical polarization process could be just enough for doing that...  thats because a laser is able to do a fast transistion for the oxygen orbital electrons in the way my theory requires..

if i was able to i would already input killowatts of power... to see what comes

the problem is that is already very hard to get this levels of rms power..

the sound of the transformer is really loud

With your setup if you balance the B+ and B- voltages you will get a very high voltage being applied to your exciter array but it will not be the same way Meyer did it. They must be kept within 20 volts of each other at all times, its a been there done that sort of thing. You really need to increase your primary turn count twenty times or more from what you are using right now.
Your transformer is going to get really hot so placing it in a cool oil bath will help you out a lot; http://www.electrical4u.com/transformer-insulating-oil-and-types-of-transformer-oil/ When I had my setup like yours it would actually start to boil the oil so keep an eye on the temps so you don't burn through the wires insulation.

And just so you know with your set up your going to need to reach 11kv before you reach the threshold for ionization. So don't listen at all to those like X-Blade as they have no idea how this technology actually works still thinking it has something to do with Faraday style electrolysis.


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Re: Who is right discusion
« Reply #54 on: January 17, 2016, 19:22:52 pm »
I was telling you about magnetic field since long time ago look at a recent patent. http://www.google.com/patents/WO2015125981A1?cl=en

How about a little help, I need to switch a capacitor voltage like this synchronous to an ac line ,how would I go about it with the electronics??? The maximum voltages are irrelvant I just want to switch their voltages like this they don't have to be equal.
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« Reply #55 on: January 17, 2016, 21:30:42 pm »
I was telling you about magnetic field since long time ago look at a recent patent. http://www.google.com/patents/WO2015125981A1?cl=en

How about a little help, I need to switch a capacitor voltage like this while having an ac line passing nearby how would I go about it with the electronics??? The maximum voltages are irrelvant I just want to switch their voltages like this they don't have to be equal.

Not sure if you are talking to me or not as I don't remember talking to you, but in Meyer's technology that is what the blocking diode is for as it will switch on and off just as you drew up. As for finding something to switch like that I can't be of help to you there, okay?

As far as the maximum voltage being irrelevant and the B+ and B- voltages not needing to be equal you are wrong about that as this technology will require a different type of ratio being that we will be needing a voltage per amount of water breakdown ratio as that is how this technology works. This is letting voltage do the work just at I stated in the 2013 Global BEM video for ionization is the key to breaking the bonds of the water molecules with this method of water decomposition.

Best of luck to you on finding something to switch your high voltages.

TGS