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Re: Who is right discusion
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2016, 12:01:12 pm »
The first thing my dad asked to me when he saw i was so involved in this idea was: Are you prepared for it to not work? how will you feel if someone do it before you? are you ready for that?


Are you ready?


I will show to you my voltages... with scopeshots

as i said this was measured between ground and the cell...

the chokes were working in commom mode...

not ok according to my theory... or not with the pulsing circuit i have here....

is not hard to get voltage multiplication... i explained a milion times how the primary collapses...

the thing is if you dont restrict the amps correctly you will never get high voltage on the collapse since the amps going in the secondary will cancell the magnetic energy accumulated on the core...

now i have all the chokes on the same core one over the other...

it seems promising because of how it did it...

time will tell...

let me take the time to hooke up the older vics to the cell and i can show picture evidence and scope shots of the said voltages.... well i showed pictures showing fluorescent bulbs lighting 50cm away from the cell without any connection rather than my hand capacitance... this should be enough for you to see how much voltage was there...

this was only 20 or so

I really suport your ideas hope you do make it work my friend you are in a good way...

if i was you i would not loose time with old bad feelings and move on and go test!

I´m here doing some coiling too aways..

TGS lets create a new thread only for your theory? i will create it for you in my project section so we can condense your info in a more solid place so all can go and see...  my project section is a very well visited place =)

i´m trying to reach a state of peace for you to be more confortable to work more inspired!

It will inspire me too sure just knowing you will be more re-energized in this 2016 to get this point!


Are you up to it?

i will do some posts on how i wind my coils and do the vaccuum process with oil maybe that helps some to think about new things they havent considered on the coil design...


Wish a happy new year to you, keep strong!

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Re: Who is right discusion
« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2016, 12:05:52 pm »
Regarding your waveform it tells me your coils seems are not right

it seems like that initial negative occur because you get insuficient voltage on your secondary during pulse on.,..

its just some of what i though in this days thinking of it,,,




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Re: Who is right discusion
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2016, 20:21:58 pm »
That waveform is very old as with all of the negative responses why share any new data? is my thinking. As for me sharing my theories nah as now it's all about the company's mission. People had their chance with me and blew it. You were the last one Sebosfato and your comments on the RWG are well noted.

Right now I have a business already set up and ready to go. I design practically everything and did things the hard way by making use of the scientific and engineering methods and some good old fashion trial and error. I'm not worried about who does it first as whoever they are they still will have to figure out a way to bring the technology to market which I have already done. In the end the cheapest prices are going to win out just as Meyer says. From what I can tell the exciter array will cost most people $2500 or more and I redesigned it to cost much less. The same goes for all of Meyer's technology that I feel is relevant. I put my skills to work and made them to be as cost effective as I could possibly build them as what good is this technology if no one can afford it? 
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Re: Who is right discusion
« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2016, 21:06:05 pm »
i´m just sorry if you think i want to atack anyone...

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« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2016, 00:59:02 am »
i´m just sorry if you think i want to atack anyone...

I am just trying to get you to tell everyone the truth as when you told everyone that you were getting 50kv to you cell you didn't even have the right equipment to read what you where applying to your cell. Seeing that you don't seem to be able to take a hint I will be blunt this time. The reasons why the truth needs to be told is your claims are thousands of volts over what Meyer states are to be the working requirements for the exciter array. Meyer states 1kv or more per resonant cavity which means for a wfc of your size would need 11kv or more to run it. We can't move forwards with claims like these being left unchecked as they go to the core of this technology in that Meyer was not telling us the truth or you were not telling us the truth as someone is lying. The measurement is to be taken at points D&E just as Meyer took his which is across the wfc. There are other things you said that need clarification but I will start with this one first as it goes to clear Meyer's name.

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Re: Who is right discusion
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2016, 02:29:43 am »
Stanley meyer said anyone would hurt his feelings if a better way could be found than his to do the things...

I just said on the post at the opensource energy something like suporting your partner gunther theory that maybe paralleling the coils could help get higher volts to the cell rather than adding all in series...

arent you working together?

doesnt it make any sense?

was it too much? to agree with something different than you said?

i didnt disagree with your theory nor said to you your stupid and should not tried it! never would!

Man sorry but yes i got 50kv but i never said it was across the cell...i aways clearly said it was between cell and gorund.. iand yes i had the right equipment to show me that... and i tell you this was the rms value not the peak!

i did it using the chokes on separate core... all chokes and secondary had  3000 turns or so

inside oil out gassed
and water was 0ppm

if you dont believe is your all right

i just need to keep my work going, any help is wanted...

i didnt questioned your theory in any moment... aways suported you...

so please dont worry be happy

i will

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Re: Who is right discusion
« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2016, 07:06:41 am »
When I was at the 2013 Global BEM I tried hooking up the transformers in parallel and it didn't work out. At low voltages sure it seems good but try to go for the benchmark voltage and one of the transformers is going to blow. Yeah, been there done that but you would know that already if you actually read the post under that video that takes you to the Aethernet site.

Now to go back to this 50kv you said at a time when I showed everyone just what I was getting at the cell and I repeatedly ask you show your work and to this date you have not. This is why people get confused as people like you run around making themselves sound better than they actually are. I notice that you completely forgot to address just how what you posted would confuse people as those voltages are far over what Meyer says are the working voltages for the exciter array. I never showed anyone the 9.3kv and more than likely never will as then you would say your getting 60kv as it's all about competition no?! You said what you said to shut me down back then and yes I never forgot it.

To this date no one has shown more voltage being applied to the water fuel capacitor than I have but my word means nothing as anyone can do that, right, but that just isn't true is it, huh? No, one ask how I did what I did but just went towards the flow following others as they moved to shut my voice down. It was at a time when there was a all out attack on me when you made those comments and I have plenty of eye witnesses.

As for Gunther he doesn't agree with the guy but was just happy that someone actually gave me credit for something I have done. I had a talk with him and told him the guy was going against what I was talking about and he said I know but was just happy someone finally gave you credit for one of the many ideas I came up with. So, you go right ahead and hook up some transformers in parallel and see the outcome for yourself when you try and reach the benchmark voltage Meyer gave us to reach. Make sure you make a video of your transformer burning up as I forgot to make one when mines burned up.
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Re: Who is right discusion
« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2016, 07:23:22 am »
I didnt knew you tested before the paralleled transformers... about the burned transformer.. good point... sorry for your lost =d for me burning a transformer makes me very sad.. .it arched? or over load?

I thought by how gunther pointed out that you worked together or something...

this 50kv reading was taken with a 1000:1 probe from ground to cell... connected to a high quality multimeter.. this is how i measure before i got this knew oscilloscope and probe...

the precision was good enough but the dmm measures rms value not the peak... my one also has max and min and avarage... anyway now that i can see with the other probe i can have a confirmation on the osciloscope of all tests i done was at least correctly probed...

Due to your effort you have now a wonderfull project section Ed you will be the moderator so you get full control of the posts! Good luck man! Hope all goes nice to you here on ionizationx and that hopefully it help you share your ideas and get people to recognize your effort and dedication.. you will get freedom to do many threads with your theory in your section in an organized manner...

i tried to create a tutorial post for example ...

Good vibes!


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