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Re: Stan Meyer Documents from meyerarchive
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2013, 06:40:12 am »
You can't just give the info away or you learn nothing. Just like the old saying goes, "You give a man a fish he eats for a day, you teach a man to fish he eats for a lifetime." Same applies here.

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Re: Stan Meyer Documents from meyerarchive
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2013, 10:48:07 am »
I think that we have to remember that Stan was a businessman as well as a professing Christian. In various videos he mentions the successful truck parts business that he and his brother had. One that grossed over 20M USD/yr.  However the  massive capital needed to expand the HHO concept and evangelize the world meant that  significant funds were needed. By selling dealerships, Stan attracted a number of investors in the HHO concept but this strategy ultimately would lead to lawsuits and being found guilty of fraud by a court of law.

The owners of these documents can do anything they want with them. Post them, sell them or ,as in several cases of "hoards" that I had tracked down, discard them as trash. If you are a believer in Stan's technologies, you know that it takes a commitment of time and money to buy materials, acquire knowledge from discussions on sites, reading patents and buying or viewing publically available videos.

If the owner of these  injector documents wants to do justice to the material, they need to be preserved, scanned, evaluated, organized
and, where appropriate, redactions made to protect original sources. I do not know what resources this fellow has but having
money for copying, purchasing digital cameras or scanners and taking steps to protect his investment
through copyrights and other legal entities (LLC?) would all take  time and money.

One problem that comes with accepting funds is that they often come with strings attached. Once the bankers and lawyers get involved
it gets very complex. One could ask the administrators of the various HHO sites about the "vast "sums that are contributed to the operation of their sites. Self funding seems to be the norm.  The kickstart model might be something to think about.

Of course one would like to see everything posted on the net, given to the world for free for the good of Mankind, but I have come to believe that a truism applies-- The work is much , but the workers are few --- It takes dedication in terms of time treasure and talent.  There are  some members of this forum who just observe, there are some who contribute their knowledge, some are backyard tinkerers and some are businesses that mine the posts to gain a competitive edge in the technology. That is alright. We are all students of Stan. If we learn well, the ultimate goal of free  or low cost power may be achieved and we may be able to save Spaceship Earth and leave a clean environment to future generations.

I believe that Stan has laid out the basics of the technologies, and that through persistance, that HHO technolgies will eventually be understood. However, in scientific research there are many false starts and wasted resources in starting experiments based
on faulty procedures and incorrect  hypotheses. So diligence in experimental design, recording of measurments and care with documentation is all part of the process if Stan's work is to rise above what the science establishment considers psuedoscience.

So, regarding the eventual release of these documents that this fellow has, cut him some slack. Perhaps if his venture proves
successful, it will free up some other holdings of materials for release. publication, or sharing.  imho
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Re: Stan Meyer Documents from meyerarchive
« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2013, 05:24:57 am »
Well they are his to do with what he wishes......But you don't think Mankind may need this a little bit more than he needs a dollar.

Look where Hoarding got Stan Meyer, Put it in the public's hands and no one can stop it.

My opinion.

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Re: Stan Meyer Documents from meyerarchive
« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2013, 01:15:07 am »
Sory to hear that J.P.,but who were liars and cheeters?

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Re: Stan Meyer Documents from meyerarchive
« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2013, 01:57:35 am »
So basically you are hoping to cash in on them ?
Really ?

Shit...lost a whole ppost..

Here's what I saved...more later..

I been researching the use of hydrogen as fuel since 1981.
I heard of and met Stan by phone in 1985.
I am in a wheelchair w/spinal injury since 1979.
I live on SSDI about 1500/mo.
I spent thousands visiting Stan 3 , promoting Stan's work when long distance calling cast me about 200/mo...cell phones were a buck a minute.
I gave Stan a $5,000 licensee deposit.
I lost $5,000 on the Indy Car Fuel Cell loan escrow because of liars and cheats.

Besides this and what I LOST IN MY WRITING.....what have YOU "Given away to mankind?"

Vaya con Dios,
jp
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Re: Stan Meyer Documents from meyerarchive
« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2013, 07:34:38 am »
So basically you are hoping to cash in on them ?
Really ?

Shit...lost a whole ppost...sonofabitch.....

Here's what I saved...more later..

I been researching the use of hydrogen as fuel since 1981.
I heard of and met Stan by phone in 1985.
I am in a wheelchair w/spinal injury since 1979.
I live on SSDI about 1500/mo.
I spent thousands visiting Stan 3 , promoting Stan's work when long distance calling cast me about 200/mo...cell phones were a buck a minute.
I gave Stan a $5,000 licensee deposit.
I lost $5,000 on the Indy Car Fuel Cell loan escrow because of liars and cheats.

Besides this and what I LOST IN MY WRITING.....what have YOU "Given away to mankind?"

Vaya con Dios,
jp

I am a poor person trying to help the poor.
Obviously you have no idea who i am or what i have done....
You wish to be greedy ...your perogotive ...

Neal Ward

Here is a video of one of the things i am trying to do for Mankind...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV3LVixS3zY

Don't ever question what i am doing for mankind, I have sacrificed all extra money i have, I live a very poor life !
My family is forced to live a poor life while I try and help other poor people

For when I am finished, the tech will be free for everyone !!

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Re: Stan Meyer Documents from meyerarchive
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2013, 16:12:33 pm »
Some  of these comments might be more appropriate in the fightboard thread
Let us try to focus on the technology , not personalities.
Or send private messages, after all this site is rated G :) :

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Re: Stan Meyer Documents from meyerarchive
« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2013, 21:30:21 pm »
one reason I like this forum is that the owner of the thread can delete silly posts and keep the thread on topic :)