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Re: New video: Edward Mitchel
« Reply #40 on: August 09, 2015, 01:19:11 am »
If I have any questions for you I'm humble enough to ask, as I do value some of your input.  But don't expect this to happen very often.

And what is my Ball Lightning theory that you keep mentioning?  I've told you a few times now that I'm not using the BL, only the energy generated by that circuit.  But then, you just said yourself that you ignore what I say.

I've specifically shown that my exotic energy can be produced with a dielectric sheet placed between two coils, exactly the same as the insulating barriers between Stan's multiple chokes.  And that this energy has a repulsive effect on non charged liquid water.  Get it?
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Re: New video: Edward Mitchel
« Reply #41 on: August 09, 2015, 02:54:24 am »
VOM refers to a Volt/Ohm Meter.  It can even be used to estimate capacitance, based on how fast the needle swings, compared to a reference value component.

The Ball Lightning post was introductory, as it shows I can, in fact, produce the needed exotic energy.  I'm one of a very few people in the world who have produced Ball Lightning, and I understand the energy.  More importantly, I know how to use that energy, apart from the BL itself.  So please remember that's what my Meyer work is about - exotic energy's effect on water.  And, more importantly, why I think Meyer's hardware can produce this energy.  He just doesn't show everything.

I didn't say I'm humble towards you, only that I have that characteristic.  Einstein said that ego is reciprocal to amount of knowledge. You?
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Re: New video: Edward Mitchel
« Reply #42 on: August 09, 2015, 04:06:19 am »
quote from edd talking behind my back on this post somewhere non related to this discussion...

What case? Me calling you out in what you told the group was a lie or a gross assumption that is totally unfounded by facts? I quote, "for the record i got up to 50kv on the exciters and more than 3kv across each cell.. by the way reaching high voltages is not a problem.." This is what you wrote and it is not truthful and you don't care of the damage you are doing to the technology by saying things like this just to save face.

I just pointed out there is no way you got the voltages you are claiming here as you simply don't have the proper equipment to be able to tell what voltages you are getting to your exciter array. You say, "by the way reaching high voltages is not a problem," and that too is not the truth as if it was everyone would be getting high voltages to their exciter arrays.

This was said by you to belittle my work and you do so for your own personal reason of which to me seem like you are doing so just to save face. I have to call people like you out as they have no idea of the damages that they are doing to the movement. Basically you are saying high voltage isn't the answer which goes against what Meyer himself told everyone in his many lecture videos and it also goes against what my experiments have been telling me thought my observations of said technology.

I am sorry I have to do this but it is time for this type of behavior to be put in check as it is hurting the movement. If you build what I have just shown you you will get high voltages to your exciter array, but in order to be able to see what is taking place you must get a differential probe capable of handling the voltages we are dealing with. There is no going around this as you also stated for you simply will not be able to see what 's taking place at the exciter array without the proper equipment to be able to do so, thus making what you have told all of us here and to those that visit this site an untrue statement. Like I said I am sorry for this but it's time for this Tom Foolery to stop as people deserve to be told the truth.
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Ok Edd if with all your vic together you won't get high voltage. i'm sorry for you... its not my problem.. its your fault, not mine...

i don't come here to say thing on your post only... if you look i reached this voltages many times in the past and not only me... and yes i can measure it ..accurately.. 

If you improve your hearing or reading you would understand how i do it. what i use for that... i don't need any fancy device to see what is going on, although i didn't finished the graduation yet i'm a damn scientist and i know now what i'm doing... more everyday..

and by the way the high voltage probe i get is very good precision... so as my dmm so please forget about me and my equipment and keep going... your not reaching.. i'm not in your way... not holding you down...  nor anyone.. nor i want any  problematic followers ...

if you know what you are doing even coil connected to a multimeter is good way to see the fields present...

you have no clue about what is the blocking diode... or how it operates... you just keep the same arguments and raise up the voice...

you are a classic moron still accusing me of not following meyer...since 2007(hurting the movement) of course my i'm using science! 

sorry to be hard but you don't seem to get it when i put in a good way...

the main problem is that i think you are so so steamy about me having so much higher voltage than you to the cell and yet not being satisfied i come to you and say i have a theory i'm working on..

so stop crying like a baby and create your theory and go put you theory in action and stop wasting our times with your words...

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Re: New video: Edward Mitchel
« Reply #43 on: August 09, 2015, 11:32:15 am »
i tried up to 99,995% pulse... what i got is frequency doubling... and many other bizarre effects as one might expect..

that is not the point however...

the point really is... are you satisfied with your waveform?

what about the diode? where is your explanation? is it satisfactory? do you think your coils are connected right? did you tried all 64 combinations? would you? why?

for example... are you really sure your diode is opening the circuit as meyer say in new zealand?

i'm sure you can check it... with your equipment.. i can do with mine!

man we are not in competition

i'm just inviting you to take a further look into real science what meyer meant with what he said and show....not just what he said and showed... he was indeed very generous and left over some highly encrypted knowledge that he clearly stated would be understood by those with knowledge of the art.

i went to university of physics for 4 years.. to get closer... not only stay reading and re-reading wiki

i went and took a look at all patents that meyer cited, the documents he cited, the patents that cited him... and so on..

i have nothing else to show that you cannot see here in the forum.. but i won't digest it for anyone like you do... i'm not selling anything...specially not my soul...  i just here for help where i can, and search for help and feedback when i think someone can understand me and maybe work with me. I believe in this community work, this space we all must thanks to Steve has being a ring for many battles but in the end brothers and sisters must shake the hands and politely behave.

My wave form is a sine wave since i can only see one side of the cell .. ever increasing until  gate... or stable if not gating..

up to 50KV and beyond... with just few bubbles that some times appears.. this with the stan circuit .. one vic split into two sections..

lower primary turns... only 50 to 100 turns...









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Re: New video: Edward Mitchel
« Reply #44 on: August 09, 2015, 17:43:02 pm »
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This is two people comparing and sharing notes effectively as we both can see what is taking place at the cell. I can't do this with you as you don't have the proper equipment to be able to share any information with me. Are you getting what I am telling you now? If not others that are reading this sure are.

Now thats funny Ed.. i remember when these scope shots your sharing first got shared like 2 years ago after your trip to tesla tech..  The scope shot that is not yours that you mention as someone else is one of  Max Millers scope shots.. And at the time there was a big debate about how your method was nothing like max setup.. There was no mutual agreements on configuration nor the process between you 2 guys.. That's why this is funny.. you trying to use another researchers scope shot as a second form of conformation to you works.. and your lying about it lol  "comparing and sharing effective" i just laughed so hard i think i pissed my self.. people would believe your claims of doing what stan did if you could show extraordinary production of HHO.. All I have ever seen from you is false claims of success.

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Re: New video: Edward Mitchel
« Reply #45 on: August 09, 2015, 18:13:53 pm »


probably you add a bad link to your post thats why your post went wrong,.... when posting links i always select all the text and copy in the case the problem is the link .... in that case change the link giving  a space on somewhere

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Re: New video: Edward Mitchel
« Reply #46 on: August 09, 2015, 20:42:21 pm »
Can you all read them as it shows up to me as just an Array.

Anyway, both Max and I have the system hooked up exactly the same and our wave forms are thus exactly the same despite outlawstc's inability to read the scope correctly. Think if it this way, if we both have everything hooked up the exact same way how could we have two different wave forms? Our wave forms are the same as the only difference is the load being placed on the VIC transformer. Plus outlawstc didn't bother to watch the video interview of my partner and I as that event is the "Global Breakthrough Energy Movement" that was held in Boulder, Colorado back in 2013 not the tesla tech. At that time Max and I were friends as I even offered to pay for the event for him and others offered him free room and board and were going to pick him up which is free travel but for some reason he didn't want to go.

This is the type of people I have had to deal with for a very long time concerning this technology people that can't reason to well and make things up as they go along. So again, how can we have two different wave forms if we have the entire setup hooked up exactly the same and are taking our measurements at the exact same spot? The only difference is the load that was being placed on the VIC transformer as I had mines hooked up to ten resonant cavities hooked up in series and he had his hooked up to two resonant cavities hooked up in series and the resonant cavities are the load being placed on the VIC transformer. After all this time you can't see that, really? We both have our setups hooked up exactly like this:
(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y320/h2opower/4-23-20119_45_49AM_zpsa492807e.jpg)

So tell me again how can we have two different wave forms? This folks is part of the problem plaguing this technology as some of the people wanting to solve this technology just aren't up to the task at hand. From reading your post you have no idea how to answer that question as you just failed to do so right here in front of everyone for the record. I'd be willing to bet your not laughing now, huh? And for the record outside of myself Max is one of the people I am pinning my hopes on as well as Ronnie Walker and his crew in case something happens to me. I've given up on Russ as his heart just doesn't seem to be in it. Moving on now as I have had enough of this Tom Foolery.

This technology at it's surface seems simple but as you dig into it you find out quickly that you have to take Meyer's words and translate them into a scientific meaning. I don't believe this was done out of stupidity on Meyer's part but as a way to hide the technology in plain sight as after all he was also a business man and who wants everybody stealing your ideas. So, with that in mind I set out to get at the core science that drives this technology and I found it after several years of research. Water molecules can be broken down by taking the electrons away from the atoms that make it up, that is the core science behind this technology and Meyer used a strong ionization field to do so. This is also how plants break the bonds of the water molecules as they take away it's electrons. Now the method that these two different technologies use to accomplish this is different but the core science remains the same. So, any method that can get the electrons away from the atoms that make up the water molecules will work towards breaking the bonds of the water molecules. Meyer chose a method that didn't require much energy input which was creating a high voltage potential energy differential field as shown here:

(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y320/h2opower/10_5VOLTAGECHARINGEFFECT.png)

But again may I remind all of you this isn't what the actual wave form looks like as this shows an impossible situation but legally it can be used as it is just a block diagram. This wave form is from outlawstc which shows how the wave form actually looks like as again the drawing figure 10-5 shows an impossible situation:

(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y320/h2opower/2015-08-09_112058_zpsvyspwktk.png)

But the drawing shows Meyer placed a ionizing field on the water molecules which causes the atoms that make up the water molecules to start ejecting their electrons and again the core science remains the same. To get the highest level of amp restriction the B+ must be equal but of opposite voltage to the B- voltage. This is not an easy task to do but I have managed to get mines to within 100 volts of each other and sometimes only 20 volts but that doesn't get used as it falls in the error of the reading devices I use. The lowest current flow through the exciter array was measured at only 0.7 mA at 9kv potential difference measured across the exciter array.

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Re: New video: Edward Mitchel
« Reply #47 on: August 09, 2015, 20:55:12 pm »
just for yr info, this forum technology sometimes have trouble with posting URLs.
Thats why somethime you get empty posts.
I tried to fix this, but i could not find the reason....
Sorry for this.