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End of the Meyer story?
« on: July 01, 2012, 19:18:23 pm »
The story of Meyer, as we know it, might end here.

Breaking a covalent bond absorbs energy, as energy is required to break the bond - the energy is absorbed when the bonds are broken.

So breaking a bond without energy is simply not possible........


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Re: End of the Meyer story?
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2012, 22:52:11 pm »
Isn't this why we are applying energy to the cell?

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Re: End of the Meyer story?
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2012, 08:46:22 am »
Only volts?

No electrons?


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Re: End of the Meyer story?
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2012, 12:28:28 pm »
have you built all Stan's tech acording to specs and does not work?i don't think so! you discredit his tech only by a theory http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvxvHLh-k5k&feature=plcp

if the guy had a proper transformer hidrogen will be pouring out of those pipes,he has only 800 wraps in total or so,Stans transformer should have aprox. 10000 wraps,so we must keep trying and replicate at least John experiment,and then came up with theories...

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Re: End of the Meyer story?
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2012, 13:03:20 pm »
The big problem about stan stuff is that he didn't explained where the technology came from. Thereto became impossible for people to really understand what he did. However when he meant "for those with knowledge in the prior art will be evident" he was not joking. Quantum mechanics explain this possibility. There is energy anywhere, since we are not at absolute 0K temperature. The thing is how to use this energy, how to create the conditions required for hydrogen to be generated.

Anyone was able to replicate stan stuff yet because all want to copy his designs and not understand why he did that things. The great problem arise when you get a really advanced system and want to simply make it work out of nothing. It simply does not work that way. 

Any collection of charges has an electric field associated with it and this electric field can deflect electrons, and since there is no electron flow within this electric field frame because is not a dipole no energy is consumed. 


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Re: End of the Meyer story?
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2012, 14:17:19 pm »
have you built all Stan's tech acording to specs and does not work?i don't think so! you discredit his tech only by a theory http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvxvHLh-k5k&feature=plcp

if the guy had a proper transformer hidrogen will be pouring out of those pipes,he has only 800 wraps in total or so,Stans transformer should have aprox. 10000 wraps,so we must keep trying and replicate at least John experiment,and then came up with theories...

Dont understand me wrong, but i didnt have seen any working replication of Meyer, yet.
So, i dropped the question, if we are not chasing ghosts here........

I have made several attempts. Created the nicest scopeshots.
But still not one indication that there was a more efficient way of creating hydrogen.

Still i hope to be wrong and we succeed in cracking Meyers patents.

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Re: End of the Meyer story?
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2012, 16:03:20 pm »
Why would you assume the process requires no current? I don't recall Meyer ever stating such a thing. Less current than normal electrolysis is what I have always understood. In my opinion, his technology works just as described. My replications work just as his did and I have seen many others on this forum alone do the same. If your able to run a cell for a long period of time, such as 45 minutes to an hour, with little or no heating of the water, would you not call that a successful replication?

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Re: End of the Meyer story?
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2012, 18:59:30 pm »
No way, No heating can only mean that the production of gas is low, it became over unity if the gas output is over unity. Of course if the gas output is over unity and the temperature don't raise than you got what stan had...

I didn't wanted to mean no current is used i just meant that the electric field being applied differ somehow of a dipole field... Of course there are losses so the current will do flow to a certain degree. The fact is that as it is restricted it allows voltage potential to take over and do the work, in the dead short condition.