End of the Meyer story?

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Over Unity? Who said anything about over unity? Certainly Meyer never did. In fact, he had stated several times his devices were not. I get the feeling the desire for mystery overshadows the need for truth.

Tell me... Does this look like low gas production?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8fKHQF1gw4

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Who can say that, at leat only looking is impossible. Now if you look the dune buggy demonstration video and you notice the cell you see he is really using Gas and lots of it. not just the white stuff..

Stan clearly stated is overunity because over unity means produce more power out than in, what he also said is that thermodynamic law conserve energy and that the water is the energy source, and also said that the conservation of energy do is not defined by power input power output.

I can only deal with numbers, if the guy is producting more than 33 liters of gas spending less than 66 watts its overunity.

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Who can say that, at leat only looking is impossible. Now if you look the dune buggy demonstration video and you notice the cell you see he is really using Gas and lots of it. not just the white stuff..

I know english is not your native language, but that is a contradicting statement. I'm not sure what the "white stuff" has to do with any of this. I have actually tested my cell as Stan did in his video with several different motors and engines to run idle. Cold starts were really the only hurdle I had to get over. The amount of gases produced was never the issue, it was always a mixture problem. And when throttling was achieved the ICE's still lacked power and torque. Humidity was also an issue at times.

Fabio, how well educated are you in the art of ICE's? Do you have access to any small motors or engines that you can tinker with? Do you think it would be beyond your skills to rebuild a small junked motor?

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Sorry my english might not be really good because i'm autodidact. By the white stuff I meant the small bubbles... At the buggy first run demonstration you clearly see the water bath boiling very vigorously, not just small tiny bubbles...   

I like ICEs since i was 10 years old, i use to dismount and mount it again... Now i got a better figure of its operation since i studied thermodynamics recently at the university and since today i know a lot about sensors and timing and synchronization mechanisms.
I never got any ICE at hands to play with hydrogen, but i read about a lot and saw many people doing it, so i know you don't really need lot of gas to run it lean, however as you just stated it will lack power because you are limited to the battery energy.

If i achieve my goal, to create all the control electronic metering mixing and injecting system will be really easy... 

Since i could never generate as much gas as 60liter per minute or at least 30L yet with just few watts,  I would not go to work on engines yet.. . _Because there will be even more problems to solve. Of course i would be able to try the gas processor, but that really is not my focus now. 

I imagine that if you add some gasoline to the water will help you start the engine and also let you run partly on water, but what is the point if your consuming more energy to generate the gas than it is giving up inside the engine?

Thats why my focus is exclusively to generate loads of gas.

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I agree, with both Steve and Sebs. Steve, you are right in pointing this out. This is why we are bound by thermodynamics. You can't just get something from nothing and that's clasicsl phisics. As far a quantum mechanics, what's Sebs is taking about. The unknown! Thngs we don't understand. Tunnel ionization for example. It's different, classical physics doesn't ecnologe it.

Anyway, In Stan's patents, he never claimed a free energy device, just an affordable and economic way. Is it possible that he solve the problem of using tap water with applying more voltage and controlling it through impedance. It's not efficient but it gets the job done. Once you have hho you no longer have to break bonds but only make ions. I've stumped my friends and proffesors with this one. Apparently there isn't a lot of research on ion ignition. As you can see from the latest video, Stans hydrogen cell was not the only thing involved : ) 

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In the 1993  Denver presentation, Stan indicates that energy is not being created. In a fusion device only small amounts of energy are utilized to release the tremendous amounts of energy within the nucleus. In a similar manner, relatively small amounts of energy are used to force electrons into higher energy orbitals and when  these highly energized molecules have the colvalent bonds broken, a tremendous amount of energy is ulimately released

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well, people are telling me that energy is never consumed.
Its there. Its changes shapes or form, but its there.
So, you tell me.....

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How much energy does it really absorb when the bond is broken? In simple electrolysis, electrons are not absorbed to make Hho, electrons simply have to pass through the water. What energy is being absorbed?

Stan heated the water with the steam resonator, this heat energy would be available for absorption after the bond is broken with potential.