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Re: Was Stan Being Dishonest About The Charging Chokes???
« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2014, 13:08:58 pm »
Timeshell, interesting analogy. With the two different wire lengths in the choke, it brings about a Beat Frequency Effect, like the Water Hammer Effect found in water pipes. That's what I think is going on.

Take a look at the images at this link.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/sound/beat.html

Remind you of anything?

Here's another bug.  If the chokes are on the same core, I don't think that they can create differing frequencies. The frequency generated would be dependant on whether the core had a field on it or not.  Since both coils would be contributing to the field on the core, the beat frequency would have to be manifest there as the sum of the two frequencies.  Only the beat frequency would be present on the WFC.

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Re: Was Stan Being Dishonest About The Charging Chokes???
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2014, 14:00:53 pm »
I've been meaning to do some live experiments with this concept. I  just finished up with college (today), so I should have the time in the next few weeks.

I'll have to see about that core issue. Thanks,

Warm regards,

Derek


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Re: Was Stan Being Dishonest About The Charging Chokes???
« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2014, 14:22:40 pm »
I've been meaning to do some live experiments with this concept. I  just finished up with college (today), so I should have the time in the next few weeks.

I'll have to see about that core issue. Thanks,

Warm regards,

Derek

That core "issue" may not be an issue at all.  It may actually be desired.  If you look at Bob Boyce's d9.pdf, he specifically uses the toroid core to combine the frequencies.  Stan's core already does this just by having everything on one core.  I'm suspecting that was the point was so that the beat frequency was creating there.

I haven't dabbled much lately other than theories and simulations.

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Re: Was Stan Being Dishonest About The Charging Chokes???
« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2014, 16:16:20 pm »
Hi TS,

I agree here with R18.
That theory is a nice one.
However...
Ions move very slowly...
But maybe i must let electrolysis laws go...


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Re: Was Stan Being Dishonest About The Charging Chokes???
« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2014, 17:24:54 pm »
Did that have anything to do with the wiper arm mentioned for one of the chokes?

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Re: Was Stan Being Dishonest About The Charging Chokes???
« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2014, 05:05:57 am »
I had a Lawn Mower that used Points to fire its coil, Accept the coil had 2 secondarys not one. Plug 1 would fire a short time just after Plug 2. I also had a Coil that would fire both plugs at the same time. Anyhow, There is not much information on the net on A double firing coils schematic!

People seem to upload photos of schematics where the coils both are in parallel or fire at the same time, this is not correct. I will Provide here a Real Schematic that I Seen on google images that looked legit.

I fixed my lawn mower by adding 2 car ignition coils to it. There was one set of points, one condenser. I added bother 12volt Primarys in series, and the Secondary coils was wired in series and in parallel.

This way Plug one would fire, Then Plug 2. The delay can be seen with an human eye. The lawn mower would run only one way out of 4 different combinations because the wiring of these coils effected the time that the plugs fired. I can take a video of how I have the coils Wired if you like. At one time i Had the video on youtube to help others that could not find that specific coil.

Explaining this setup isn't easy

Say you have 2 coils boths coils is a ignition coil. Both Contain a Primary coil, Both Contain a secondary. Remember you have a Battery 2. I Hacker, Well he is just that. You have to be a hacker of the Primary coils.

you put the primary coils together in series not parallel. Even though they're 12 volts, you put them in series. This does not run well with the mind. There is 8 ways you can connect 2 coils, there is A number of more ways, (i'm not doing that math) to connect the secondary.

Ones mind does not know this until shown, then it becomes clear. I only covered a Primary setup, Not a Secondary :) You are using chokes, Think about a double firing coil.  I hope this helps motivate someone in some small way....
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Re: Was Stan Being Dishonest About The Charging Chokes???
« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2014, 20:29:37 pm »
^^^^^^^^^

Wow!

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Re: Was Stan Being Dishonest About The Charging Chokes???
« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2014, 04:34:25 am »
What is it Timeshell?

Here is something more to ponder at.