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Re: Stan Meyer gasgun mixed frequency led references
« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2023, 03:16:31 am »
This is a nice read...
https://www.nouvir.com/how-photons-meet-atoms.htm

Analyzing Stan's patents I wavered for a minute...thinking he was targeting Oxygen's absorbtion spectrum. Until reading that info, and then seeing Stan's diagram of the Oxygen and all the way to the right, Hydrogen...I am convinced because he uses two seperate terms....the Oxygen is in the focus, but the term used is "Photon energy injection"....and he shows multiple orbits of oxygen electrons....then very subtly he labels the Hydrogen with "light absorbtion" and  "electron entrapment"....it's all in this website. Oxygen interaction is the website's 4th "A PHOTOCHEMICAL SURPRISE"....Hydrogen "absorbs" aka annihilates the photon...generating 2 electrons
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Re: Stan Meyer gasgun mixed frequency led references
« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2023, 22:11:42 pm »
found this page recently with 3d print files and all. recently been working on trying to figure out how to 3d print a viable part the last few days. I'll start a thread on the build in my projects page once i get going. My first 3d making of any kind shows it was my first one.

https://www.water-fuel.co/gas-gun-and-application?lang=el

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Re: Stan Meyer gasgun mixed frequency led references
« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2023, 22:38:40 pm »
Found the perfect light for this project to take parts from. I was thinkin UV-c was the way to go too.

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Re: Stan Meyer gasgun mixed frequency led references
« Reply #27 on: July 12, 2023, 02:56:55 am »
From the history of LEDs....regarding Red
The cheapest, and most abundant of Stan's time (not a whole lot changed, they just got brighter and more durable/weatherproof)

"The first commercially usable LEDs were developed in the 1960’s by combining three primary elements: gallium, arsenic and phosphorus (GaAsP) to obtain a 655nm red light source."

655nm....1nm off from Hydrogen's lowest energy emission/absorbtion spectrum🤔

P.S. 410nm is 0.1nm off from Hydrogen's most energetic emission/absorbtion spectrum....656nm can push the electron up 1 energy level, 410.1nm can push it up 4 energy levels. 🤓

That's correct. Nice info on the old LEDs. So, wouldn't you assume something much faster would raise the energy levels even higher? such as UV in the deep C region <100nm would instantaneously ionize the H+ atom causing the electron loss.

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Re: Stan Meyer gasgun mixed frequency led references
« Reply #28 on: July 12, 2023, 06:07:12 am »

That's correct. Nice info on the old LEDs. So, wouldn't you assume something much faster would raise the energy levels even higher? such as UV in the deep C region <100nm would instantaneously ionize the H+ atom causing the electron loss.

Yes, sub 100nm UV can even directly ionize water as well...but you run into problems like glass and even water being opaque to such frequencies (as well as most plastics). At 410nm glass, plastic, etc is still mostly transparent. Smaller wavelength light would work (less likely to be reflected by orbiting electron(s), if you can utilize exotic window materials. But 410.1nm is the most energetic frequency (still visible) that doesn't mandate such exotic lense materials. My tests so far show glass and water are mostly transparent, so I assume acrylic will also be transparent (testing soon), though it's unclear if acrylic will haze and get uv damaged over time with 410nm (I imagine it will, because cheap plastic cullimating lenses go bad with 405-450nm laser diodes)

If the photon is truly absorbed, it will become annihilated and produce two extra electrons. We want oxygen to release electrons, and we want hydrogen to absorb energy to dissasociate, and also gain an electron to hold monoatomic energy state...then once those criteria are met, when triggered in a final stage (magnetic pinch + voltage zone) , the electron deficient oxygen triggers the hydrogen to recombine (compression down) and releases "thermal explosive energy".

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Re: Stan Meyer gasgun mixed frequency led references
« Reply #29 on: July 12, 2023, 07:38:13 am »
Here is another great read (pdf attached)....photoelectric effect is most easily achieved and happens when the photon is absorbed by an inner-shell.... "pair production" is more difficult and happens when photon makes it to the nucleus and is absorbed, but compounding forces involved in the multiple resonant chambers tells me it's possible.

The last stage in Stan's hydrogen gas gun diagrams (5b of patent#5149407) shows photon/laser energy through a lens onto already ionized gasses, then voltage/magnetic/compression zone...triggering thermal explosive release.

In my mind, 656nm is the largest visible wavelength to be absorbed by hydrogen and must be absorbed by orbital electron(s)...410.1nm has a higher chance to make it past electron(s) and be absorbed by the nucleus. If that happens, the hydrogen would have more than enough dissasociation energy, and the photon would produce an electron and a positron. The hydrogen would be instantly negatively ionized, and the electron orbits would have to radically restructure, flipping the positron to another electron.
Stan's diagram of the atoms absorbing photon energy (6d of patent#5149407), is alot of info crammed into it. But we see oxygen on the low level...then a high energy level line, with liberated electrons traveling to a diagram of the Electron Extraction Circuit co-labeled "electron entrapment" and "hydrogen ions".

I believe 656nm works because it most likely interacts with a lower orbital of oxygen as well as hydrogen. It is unknown if 410nm will also "inject" energy into oxygen, but it's smaller wavelength intuitively tells it will collide with oxygen electrons...but, oxygen is pretty easily ionized into ozone and I think the voltage zone/EEC alone can satisfy oxygen ionization....the requirement needs to be stable negative ionization for both monoatomic hydrogen (H1-) and oxygen (O3-) so they repel each other and don't interact as they travel. Up until the moment of magnetic/physical compression...at which point the third oxygen breaks off and steals the H1- electron(s).

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Re: Stan Meyer gasgun mixed frequency led references
« Reply #30 on: July 12, 2023, 20:47:11 pm »
How you are going to measure if or not the specific wavelenghts you have are affecting or not the molecules?

i would be important to know if or not the light is being absorbed…

most likely very few and very precise wavelengths can be absorbed the rest will only pass thru as if it was nothing…

Also coherence may be important too

i guess you could use some sort of light intensity detector …

I would give a try to those lasers used for engravers


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Re: Stan Meyer gasgun mixed frequency led references
« Reply #31 on: July 12, 2023, 20:55:34 pm »
Detecting the absorption of a laser beam by air can be challenging since air is generally transparent to most laser wavelengths. However, certain conditions and techniques can help identify if a laser is absorbed or scattered by air. Here are a few methods you can consider:

Beam visibility: If the laser beam is visible along its entire path, it suggests that the laser is scattering off particles in the air. This scattering phenomenon is known as Rayleigh scattering and occurs more prominently for shorter wavelengths, such as blue or green lasers.

Beam attenuation: If the laser beam appears dimmer or weaker as it propagates through the air, it could indicate absorption by airborne particles or molecules. This effect becomes more pronounced with longer wavelengths, such as infrared lasers. Comparing the intensity of the laser beam at different distances can provide insights into potential absorption.

Beam divergence: If the laser beam rapidly expands or diverges over a short distance, it may suggest scattering or absorption. This occurs when the laser energy is transferred to the air, causing a decrease in the beam's intensity and coherence.

Detection equipment: Specialized equipment like LIDAR (Light Detection and Ranging) systems or laser absorption spectrometers can detect the absorption of laser light by atmospheric gases. These instruments utilize sophisticated techniques to measure the absorption and scattering characteristics of laser beams at specific wavelengths.

Environmental conditions: Certain atmospheric conditions can affect laser absorption, such as high humidity, fog, or airborne pollutants. In these situations, the laser beam may be scattered or absorbed to a greater extent, resulting in reduced visibility or power.

It's important to note that determining laser absorption by air requires careful analysis and often requires specialized equipment or knowledge. If you're working with lasers and need accurate measurements or assessments, it's recommended to consult experts or refer to scientific literature and research in the field.