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Re: Stan Meyer gasgun mixed frequency led references
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2023, 13:06:39 pm »
The ev Of lasers is how much energy per Photon you have … it’s directly related to the frequency and because of this a quantized effect I mean only discreet energy will be absorbed by the atoms and. Molecules

A laser in the uv range consume much more power per photon than a laser in the red range

In this multi photon ionization the first jump is the lowest energy than subsequently it decrease for next levels for hydrogen

I’m not really sure also of the effect it would have… my best guess is that he used it as just a manner of disturbing initially the molecules while letting the voltage polarization act

The intensity usually only refer to the amount of photons like the current of the light

It’s known that titanium oxide electrodes will generate hydrogen if receive light at a lower voltage than the required acting as a catalyst

The cell being a light guide could make use of the laser amplifying it

If water is able to emit some photons would be great too

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Re: Stan Meyer gasgun mixed frequency led references
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2023, 01:21:50 am »
Its not just some red light, Fabio.
The light must have some strenght. I think it is in eV (electron volts)
I dont know how much joule or watts that is, to be honest and i doubt that som low level red leds can do the job...

After a GPT session, it came to the conclusion that (sans photo-multiplication/multi-absorption gains) that the energy level from the pulsed 660nm could only result in a 1 electronVolt increase. Coulombs law doesn't apply to photons.

UV-C extreme low end <90nm, is capable of ionizing the hydrogen atom instantly.

Now, interferometry on the other hand, can produce stationary waves or other higher and lower harmonics that are literally other wavelengths of light. Some of which could be sub-90nm.

Checkout a patent cited by another patent, cited by Stan.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20120097550A1/en
 

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Re: Stan Meyer gasgun mixed frequency led references
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2023, 01:25:41 am »
Its not just some red light, Fabio.
The light must have some strenght. I think it is in eV (electron volts)
I dont know how much joule or watts that is, to be honest and i doubt that som low level red leds can do the job...

After a GPT session, it came to the conclusion that (sans photo-multiplication/multi-absorption gains) that the energy level from the pulsed 660nm could only result in a 1 electronVolt increase. Coulombs law doesn't apply to photons.

UV-C extreme low end <90nm, is capable of ionizing the hydrogen atom instantly.

Now, interferometry on the other hand, can produce stationary waves or other higher and lower harmonics that are literally other wavelengths of light. Some of which could be sub-90nm.

Checkout a patent cited by another patent, cited by Stan.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20120097550A1/en


However, Stan also shows us how he used impingement of both: molecules and gas atoms. A photon striking an H+ atom, has the potential to knock the electron off of it, which instantly ionizes it. The trouble is (and it's the same with getting 13.6V to the molecule as Stephen says), is that hydrogen bond clustering blocks the majority of molecules and atoms from absorbing the photons and electric charges from the fields.

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Re: Stan Meyer gasgun mixed frequency led references
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2023, 17:51:27 pm »
Interesting picture

This show that to take from second level to third it only need some red led

In multi photon ionization would mean a photon with even lower energy would be needed from third level and so on

Of course this are quantized values and so would need to be in correct proportion

Should be energetically efficient as just using uv to directly jump the levels

Except that electric fields can interact with that

Hey Steve,

Thanks for the response..  Were you also using the extraction circuit with the LED setup to grab those electrons (see figure 8A)?

When electricity flows down a wire it's simply knocking copper/aluminum electrons off as it flows. So essentially he is capturing them from the gas in a similar manner.

It's my understanding is, the light hits them and they move to outer shells... But, once that light is gone (gas moves to another chamber or to engine even, without that light) then electrons will move right back down instantly to the inner shells (doing so they will emit that light back out though)..
So I do not think it is simply enough to hit them with the light... I think the purpose of the light is to prime them.
So that within this excited state, that electron can be plucked off (ENERGIZED LIGHT BULB (CONSUMING ELECTRONS) in fig 8A). Ideally, in the same chamber or directly above like Stans diagrams shows(again, there must have been enough light to reach upwards to the Electron Extraction grid Fig. 8A)) the extraction circuit (see attached) which removes those electrons permeantly so they can not move back down (because they are gone of course). This will ultimately leave the oxygen atoms with missing electrons which is what we want to later cause the atomic decay.
 
You'll notice in the picture for the gas processor (IMG_8907.jpg) is has 4 power connections at the bottom. 1 positive and 1 negative SET to power the leds and the other to power the plates through excitation. I believe these plates act similar to the water cell but are necessary so the gas doesn't just reform back into water.
If you have ever tired running a standard hydrogen cell in your car (waste of money by the way unless you're using a circuit like Stanley did) you'll see water droplets all along the tubes going to your intake. This is the atoms bumping each other to reform into water.  But in a state of excitation and missing electrons, this won't happen.

I think he later realized running the gas through quench tubes and all of that was simply more dangerous and complex.. His later injector invention (not the first injectors that quench tubes simply injected the mixed gasses into the engine but the later ones)  made all of this happen at an instant, eliminating the need for all of that gas travel.

I'm not positive if he even used the leds light in the later injector (he still did to ionize the ambient air with laser though) because I didn't see it in the diagrams of the injector (correct me if I'm wrong). There's only three chambers (looks like 2 in some diagrams of the injectors but it's clarified in the text and shown in FIGURE 6)  in the injector and a connection for the electric from the VIC.. One chamber is just water, one is exashaut gases (non-combustible gases) and the other is the ionized ambient air to slow the burn rate.

In the circuit for the later injectors you can see he is indeed extracting electrons from within the injector because there is a light bulb/resistor in the circuit (55 on FIGURE 5 of tempStanInjectorCircut.jpg) . So the injector was creating that unstable atomic decay effect. 


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Re: Stan Meyer gasgun mixed frequency led references
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2023, 18:12:18 pm »
well, i have hete on this forum a schematic of a pwm with gating, pulse width options and eec.
Also on my alternator setup, i used some sort of eec. The eec was powering the rotor coil


I didnot use the eec in combi with my led canon tube...


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Re: Stan Meyer gasgun mixed frequency led references
« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2023, 01:52:15 am »
I see hydrogen atom being mentioned/targeted by our investigations..

But I wanted to mention, I do believe it's the oxygen atom we want to target, not the hydrogen...

There is two reasons I believe this. In the new Zealand video, he walks through the process and mentions how the hydrogen atom (having only one proton and one electron) meets up with the Oxygen atom (now missing some electrons) and that is the point in which the atomic reaction occurs.. Because that one little electron in hydrogen is pulled right out by the oxygen atom (because the oxygen atom is stronger with all those protons it takes it from the hydrogen atom) .. Leaving the hydrogen proton left to decay.   AND in the video (hard to hear but) one of the guys askes if the lasers are hitting hydrogen as well (because Stan mentions them hitting oxygen) and Stan's response is... "you could"..


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Re: Stan Meyer gasgun mixed frequency led references
« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2023, 08:40:19 am »
In which video did you hear that?