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Stan Meyer gasgun mixed frequency led references
« on: August 03, 2012, 17:03:37 pm »
H Barry Bebb was delving into the ionic states of hydrogen and other noble gases gases by the bombardment of  the gases by multiple photon frequencies. This was a NASA funded project.
See hereticalbuilders for an application of this principle in his version of the gas processor
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Re: Stan Meyer gasgun mixed frequency led refs
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2012, 07:02:16 am »
@Jim:
Nice research.  Thanks for the great docs on LED/laser exposure to the process.

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Re: Stan Meyer gasgun mixed frequency led refs
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2012, 11:20:58 am »
Nice stuff! Do you have more on that?
Ruby colored laser light at 1.73ev.
That not a very high powerrate and as such maybe replicable.

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Re: Stan Meyer gasgun mixed frequency led references
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2013, 13:30:42 pm »
1.73eV goes from IR to visible it's the needed wavelength that makes lasers so expensive to test and experiment with

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Re: Stan Meyer gasgun mixed frequency led references
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2023, 21:28:33 pm »
It seems that article requires a subscription of sorts.. So, not sure what it says but I did a bit of research and putting together the pieces of Stans patents and videos ...

As we know, Stan used Red leds.. I believe he took them to higher orbital shells in the atom to easily "pluck" off the electrons (as mentioned in the New Zealand video) from the Oxygen atom (by then allowing them to flow to the light filament) in order to later cause the atomic condition. Once the hydrogen atom nears the oxygen atom (now missing electrons). It takes that one electron from the hydrogen atom. Causing an unstable state of the hydrogen atom to decay rapidly to explosion. I was trying to figure out what actual wavelengths of the leds would be good for this and found some information everyone should look at!

Basic explanation about how light (photons) effects atoms.
https://webbtelescope.org/contents/articles/spectroscopy-101--how-absorption-and-emission-spectra-work

Specific wavelengths for Oxygen
https://www.physics.nist.gov/PhysRefData/Handbook/Tables/oxygentable2.htm

The second link shows the wavelengths in which photons cause the electrons to move to outer shells! If you look at the second site (navigating to hydrogen) and compare the values to the ones in the first article. You will see it's closer to 656nm (for hydrogen) to move up to level 3. Now leds will output across a range so you wouldn't have to be super precise but having this knowledge. Less energy would be used if choosing the proper wavelength..

Reading this information.. I am curious as to why Stan didn't try to use violet (which moves the electron way further in the orbital shell, at least for hydrogen) .

NOTE.. The (Å) wavelengths are Equal to nm if you drop the last zero on the (Å) measurement. So... 434nm = 4340 (Å)


I currently lack resources to get a lot of this off the ground but I have been so enamored with it that I am researching so when the time comes I can complete it.  I have spend lots of time off and on for years looking at old inventions and researching energy. Some are hoaxs, some are not economical or lack efficiency or simply lack information to recreate.. But Stanley was the REAL DEAL. and once you understand the concepts it's not impossible to create. I'll be posting when I can in hopes to help others and learn more. Thanks for reading! 

NOTE: the picture I attached is from the first site talking about Hydrogen.. But I am recommending to use the wavelengths for Oxygen cause that seems to make the most sense here.


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Re: Stan Meyer gasgun mixed frequency led references
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2023, 08:24:36 am »
Hallo StoptheGreed,

It is nice to see more people being interested in the electron theme of Meyer.
I have tried using Leds in combination with HHO gas.

I didnt see any changes, but that is more to my test setup of those days.
You need a test setup with a running engine, i suppose. Run it on fully on HHO and then put such a led device in between and see what happens.
How would you like to test such a device?

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Re: Stan Meyer gasgun mixed frequency led references
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2023, 00:05:23 am »
Interesting picture

This show that to take from second level to third it only need some red led

In multi photon ionization would mean a photon with even lower energy would be needed from third level and so on

Of course this are quantized values and so would need to be in correct proportion

Should be energetically efficient as just using uv to directly jump the levels

Except that electric fields can interact with that


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Re: Stan Meyer gasgun mixed frequency led references
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2023, 09:27:30 am »
Its not just some red light, Fabio.
The light must have some strenght. I think it is in eV (electron volts)
I dont know how much joule or watts that is, to be honest and i doubt that som low level red leds can do the job...