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Sebosfato / Re: My new approach
« Last post by Login to see usernames on July 11, 2023, 02:20:12 am »
Stan say if you need a higher voltage you design a bigger one

A bigger one may mean thicker wire wider spacing between turns and lower capacitance

I think some sort of Litz wire would be desireabke for the high frequency discharge to have less resistance

I’m starting to think that perhaps Meyer was able to momentarily break the water by a mix of actions

First is polarization that is required to bring the molecules to a certain direction

Than he use the chokes as a manner to take the energy of the core together with a certain capacitance the water bath capacitance (foil on outside for example)

I have some prof of that working but didn’t get much over it

But mainly the idea is that the core energy will create a very high voltage on the chokes but they are both sending positive to the cell during the collapse

I already pointed in the past to the fact that Meyer used a potential formula

If the chokes has a higher inductance than the secondary for same turns while subjected to same pulsing filed it will have a different dirscharge characteristic

In a microwave for example there is a gap in the core and or they add iron in the secondary side so it get higher inductance without coupling that inductance so it create a distributed charge since the coil want to discharge the core energy but at same time by the action of the jogs it will want to fight a change in current

the bitoroid and such are examples…

It’s like adding an inductance in series with each turn basically

This could be done for example using a toroidal transformer for the primary and secondary than add more laminations around and than wind the chokes over it

This way the chokes catch the core energy from primary but has increased inductance reactance for the discharge

It would be a dual core transformer in a sense but part of the core is an added inductance per turn of the chokes…

If I just had some money I would buy the material to do it like I’m imagining

I could try with the ferrites toroidal I have thought

I have some of this very high permeability types may give interesting results with few turns
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Sebosfato / Re: My new approach
« Last post by Login to see usernames on July 10, 2023, 15:14:48 pm »
The second point of view at it is from the perspective of the energy in the core

If no current flow at discharge a very high voltage is formed so I believe the chokes must have or a diode or a capacitor or both connected to the starts to be able to complete the electric field

Today I made a first test or my super dc power supply just to see if it would not blow 

Now I’m going to Simply wire the coil and capacitor in parallel and apply 200v pulses to it so it will be limited by 200v

A coil may be added in series to limit the current rise

Current equal force in terms of magnetic field and is 90degrees of maximum voltage

A multiphase system should be able to take more advantage of this force

According to Barbat patent and physics theory

A force applied at an angle of 90degree can  consume no work

Of course there still Lorentz force and that may not be the one in use

Imagine a hover craft for example the gravity holds it to ground but as the air flows it can be pushed all around with no effort

Water molecules likely are or may be held together in a similar manner by two planes so it may be useful to imagine in this situation for exercise purposes

Now if we want to take a carpet from ground we pull from the center or from the side?

Adding light seem to me like reducing the carpet size or increasing the air in the middle

Adding voltage is like pulling from center of the carpet

Adding voltage from inside is like adding a bubble in the middle to lift the carpet

Adding a magnetic field cause a shaking action

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Sebosfato / Re: My new approach
« Last post by Login to see usernames on July 10, 2023, 13:29:00 pm »
Thanks bro!

I was remembering once again my early Vic experiments in Italy

And one interesting thing about that is that I found that the capacitance interaction between the coils and core change everything

For example using a single secondary would charge capacitors up to 200v but adding a 30 turns choke after diode it would charge till 2kv

I used to call this charge pump effect

But is actually indeed a kind of vector inversion

Adding a forces the second coil capacitance to get charged and when the field collapse the voltage of the choke sums with the capacitance

The electric field has a path to water and the voltage will be totally on water in this case even if just a brief moment

Until the capacitor start fighting the voltage and create a reverse field to stop the current

So the size of this capacitor may be important to tell how strong the coils will actually hit the water

Ideally the capacitor may be charged while the chokes also charged with current and hopefully when ckt open the chokes colapse causing a oscillation of much higher order
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J. Miller / Re: Stan Meyer gasgun mixed frequency led references
« Last post by Login to see usernames on July 09, 2023, 22:38:40 pm »
Found the perfect light for this project to take parts from. I was thinkin UV-c was the way to go too.
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J. Miller / Re: Stan Meyer gasgun mixed frequency led references
« Last post by Login to see usernames on July 09, 2023, 22:11:42 pm »
found this page recently with 3d print files and all. recently been working on trying to figure out how to 3d print a viable part the last few days. I'll start a thread on the build in my projects page once i get going. My first 3d making of any kind shows it was my first one.

https://www.water-fuel.co/gas-gun-and-application?lang=el
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Stanley Meyer / Re: Stanley Meyer demystified
« Last post by Login to see usernames on July 09, 2023, 05:38:50 am »
You can perhaps run some calculation to find the optimum angle and 3d print a suporte to hold them

I believe it will increase the interaction with the water cell space

The ferrrite you can glue with super glue usually loose very little of the original permeability depending on where broken

I would also polish the electrodes to look like mirrors is not so hard

Use a car paste for polishing at the end phase
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Stanley Meyer / Re: Stanley Meyer demystified
« Last post by Login to see usernames on July 09, 2023, 04:19:51 am »
Very nice electrodes

If maybe you apply the leds light in a certain angle it will make shine all the cavity instead of going perpendicular straight to it

This is a good idea, I will do that
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Stanley Meyer / Re: Stanley Meyer demystified
« Last post by Login to see usernames on July 09, 2023, 04:15:39 am »
Disappointed today, I had a 4.6" ferrite toroid delivered today...it was shattered in about 6 pieces 😰
Luckily a free replacement is on the way...hopefully they package it a little better this time 🤞
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Stanley Meyer / Re: Stanley Meyer demystified
« Last post by Login to see usernames on July 09, 2023, 03:18:45 am »
Thanks, doing some experiments to see if 410nm is opaque to glass/water...to see what kind of housing to make the container/window out of.
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J. Miller / Re: Stan Meyer gasgun mixed frequency led references
« Last post by Login to see usernames on July 09, 2023, 03:16:31 am »
This is a nice read...
https://www.nouvir.com/how-photons-meet-atoms.htm

Analyzing Stan's patents I wavered for a minute...thinking he was targeting Oxygen's absorbtion spectrum. Until reading that info, and then seeing Stan's diagram of the Oxygen and all the way to the right, Hydrogen...I am convinced because he uses two seperate terms....the Oxygen is in the focus, but the term used is "Photon energy injection"....and he shows multiple orbits of oxygen electrons....then very subtly he labels the Hydrogen with "light absorbtion" and  "electron entrapment"....it's all in this website. Oxygen interaction is the website's 4th "A PHOTOCHEMICAL SURPRISE"....Hydrogen "absorbs" aka annihilates the photon...generating 2 electrons
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