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Is the VIC 6-1 amplitude controller for the bifilar ?
« on: April 14, 2009, 15:13:07 pm »
Somebody told me me that the VIC 6-1 might actually be the the "amplitude control circuit" for this bifilar circuit . It would be great to see with a phase meter , if there is actually some current phasing going on with John's connection as the frequency is changing, I believe there is not , so I wonder if this is not just some advanced form of power supply .

It is true that the waveform is the same but that waveform will always be the same when you have capacitance in the circuit , its nothing telling at all .

Also I wonder why go through so much trouble when a normal rectified transformer would do the same thing , perhaps a question of efficiency ?

But then theres also the issue of how it is you should connect the VIC 6-1 to this bifilar , it all makes no sense , the bifilar is grounded but is also connected to the 6-1...

Also , Kinesis , plz confirm that you are indeed getting some unipolar pulses with no other diode besides the one before the positive red choke and inputing unipolar pulsed dc on primary side.
« Last Edit: April 14, 2009, 17:55:06 pm by Dankie »

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Re: Is the VIC 6-1 amplitude controller for the bifilar ?
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2009, 17:06:09 pm »
dankie it is not....it is completely seperate......6-1 is not variable voltage control i can show you with my scope what happens if you put a normal 50 percent duty square wave into it without the correct proportion of amplitude to power.

and the only diode i am using is the one on john's cil...aka the ONLY DIODE IN THE VIC CIRCUIT.

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Re: Is the VIC 6-1 amplitude controller for the bifilar ?
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2009, 17:20:14 pm »
dankie it is not....it is completely seperate......6-1 is not variable voltage control i can show you with my scope what happens if you put a normal 50 percent duty square wave into it without the correct proportion of amplitude to power.

and the only diode i am using is the one on john's cil...aka the ONLY DIODE IN THE VIC CIRCUIT.

How can you be sure ?

Your scope shows me that your transformer is working in a unipolar way .

but If your connection has no current phase , it will be hard for you to reach any sort of resonance , that is why I say you must test with a phase meter to see what is happening when you are switching those freqs

Now if you cant reach resonance theres a problem , it means this isnt a VIC , and this amplitude theory is out of the blue , theres a problem ... Amplitude should be independant , its not working with lower voltage or higher voltage  ? Is that nice waveform frequency dependant ?

Now is there a voltage rise @ a specific frequency ? I understand there is not ...

Are you pulsing this with your frequency generator straight up ? You need a power source dude , full 12 volts from a battery with only the primary resistance and mayeb a tiny bit more , thats it  .
« Last Edit: April 14, 2009, 17:39:02 pm by Dankie »

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Re: Is the VIC 6-1 amplitude controller for the bifilar ?
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2009, 18:02:41 pm »
dankie i drew it out for you before NO I AM NOT USING JUST MY FUNCTION GENERATOR!

LISTEN AND READ.

damnit.....it doesn't matter what i write you completely don't even read it.

do you know anything about electronics?

look at my new topic called variable voltage amplitude control.

i drew it out of exactly what is going on and what im doing......i even provided the wave forms at each point AND I HAVE EXACTLY WHAT IT SHOWS IN THE PATENT AT EACH STEP.

holy shit.

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Re: Is the VIC 6-1 amplitude controller for the bifilar ?
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2009, 18:43:37 pm »
Yes it does look like the same waveform , but it is not doubled either and doesnt tell me much if this is really working .

You say its working , I say lets check the other caracteristics we should see like voltage rise @ a certain frequency and input amps going down . , thats why I ask other questions .

When you say "it works" , plz elaborate .

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Re: Is the VIC 6-1 amplitude controller for the bifilar ?
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2009, 18:53:20 pm »
it means that when the 50% duty cycle on pulse charges up the inductor and then on the off pulse the inductor releases an exact equal pulse.....hence unipolar double pulses.

even 2curiouswfc didn't ahve a good double pulse.....these double pulses are 1kv with a 5 volt amplitude input.

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Re: Is the VIC 6-1 amplitude controller for the bifilar ?
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2009, 22:06:21 pm »
it means that when the 50% duty cycle on pulse charges up the inductor and then on the off pulse the inductor releases an exact equal pulse.....hence unipolar double pulses.

even 2curiouswfc didn't ahve a good double pulse.....these double pulses are 1kv with a 5 volt amplitude input.

Well it may be that you are right .

VIC coil 6-1 is not like a regular coil , its a pancake coil bifilar and wrapped with a transformer . It may just work like you say it works .

W/e way you choose it will be high-volts low amps .