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Re: How to extract energy from ambient by sebosfato
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2010, 09:55:13 am »

In a resistance device, there is less free electrons per cubic meter than in a conductor. Thus, to sustain a similar amperes current flow, electrons must move faster through the media.

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Re: How to extract energy from ambient by sebosfato
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2010, 13:06:55 pm »
The efficientcy of your ICE is about a measured 30% or less from memory. This number was increased during WW2 when oil be came expensive (well for that day and age) and then the ideas started to flow. One of the most common ideas was partial steam engines, IE water injection. By injecting water into the piston SOME of the heat energy is converted to steam, this created extra pressure and cooled on the exhaust side meaning less fuel could be used for the same abount of torque. This had its downfalls, not having a ready supply of SS parts there was a lot of corrosion of parts (especially on the exhaust valves from memory) this also made the engine's prone to hydrolock if not managed correctly.
There have been a lot of implemented idea's to increase the efficientcy of the ICE, but the issue is more in the design of it rather than anything else. There is a lot of moving and interacting pieces that must perform at high speeds. This generates massive amounts of friction and heat, robbing efficientcy from the engine 2 fold. This while not being the best design is one of the most reliable. With the use of "improvements" and lubracants the flaws in the design have been bought down into a managable level for the common person to handle with some basic maitenance.
 
A very brief overview of the ICE and it effecientcy. But the real kicker is yet to come.
 
The common conspiracy theory about big oil contracts with automobile companies are only half true. The contracts that are in place is that they design vehicles to run on a fuel with "x" properties. That is all they do. Its not a controlling contract or anything like that its more of both the companies have come to an agreement, we ensure that a product with these properties is available and in return we supply the consumer with a product they want to buy that uses this product. The efficientcy of the motor viehicle engine is our fault. We have dictated where the market goes, name one time where picking a car was based on mileage over how fast it goes, it only ever happens when the price of fuel goes us. Now this still doesn't swing our favour much when it comes to more efficient cars. Just so you can fully understand, changes to a devise sold on a market need years of testing, stages of production, monitored and documented accounts, expectations and predictions of the performance under a plethora of conditions it will more than likely never see. These must be monitored and then marketed. If there is a definate swing in the market for this modifacation then companies will invest more money into like additions and improvements.
 
The Hybrid technology we see now is a synergy of a performance idea that was going to be bought to the market for the top end racing fans. The tests and the stages of required assurance were complete then the idea was shoved sideways and altered to fill an emerging market. This, even with its almost doubled fuel mileage did not fair as well as predicted. Instead the slight improvments to 4 wheel drives fuel economies was also noted and this is where most of the market went. People who used to drive medium sized 6 cyl family cars with a fuel economy of 7-8 km/l now drive 4WD with a fuel economy of 6-8km/l and feel better because they feel safer in a larger car. They traded their feelings of damaging the planet for feeling safer.
 
Whats the point of this ramble, mechanics and engine designers the world over can make ICE's now with efficienties of 50-70%, we as the public will never see them implemented due to the cost of red tape required to have them on the market. There is simply no solid grounding for this type of car to be sold on. As a whole we (yes i said we as in consumers with money) will not shell out the money for a new car that is more fuel efficient over one that is faster more powerful or is larger. The reason for this is the new car market is people with money, and the people in this market want a status symbol.
 
There is no point in blaming big oil or the car companies, name one company that makes sense of investing money into ideas no one wants? asside from telemarketers, who still make money BTW, there is none.

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Re: How to extract energy from ambient by sebosfato
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2010, 13:10:29 pm »
What does the above have to do with your idea and project, your talking about extracting energy from everything around use. this is possible i guess but if you want a better running engine look at history, check out the trends of the times that fuel prices spiked. There are a lot of smart people (who ever discovered how to run a diesle engine on cooking oil is a freaking genius) who have had great ideas on improving the efficientcy of engines. Your idea about using the heat is not new and research into their ideas i think will help you alot more!!

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Re: How to extract energy from ambient by sebosfato
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2010, 16:12:47 pm »
Hello Crazyewok,


Thanks for your opinion, i agree with you, i know there is a this conspiracy of making bigger cars to make you burn more gasoline. I knew about the water injection reading on some encyclopedia is just as you said they added water in order to more efficiently use the energy on the gasoline. 


What i'm proposing is to cut the umbilical cord, using only air and water to run your car, and i'm questioning if is Being energy conserved in the heat or if the movement also is energy, this is one of the things we need to determine, cause if movement is just a consequence of the heat, we would have 100% of heat to recycle. If not energy is not conserved within the motor and make our life's more difficult.


I did't found anyone who have tried to heat a compressed air tank to have more pressure available. So is exactly what i'm proposing. If we heat the compressed air with the remaining heat from the engine running only with compressed or combined cycle you would actually be transferring energy from the ambient to the tank,  kind of resonance. Maybe is not infinite however if you know that a simple 24m3 tank can make normally 150 km having 15 bar of pressure. If you heat it to 150° you would make 750km or more. And the gain come from the ambient. So you spend 2 dollars to fill the tank and run 750km, I think is a good deal. However i'm thinking a way for it to supply its own pressure during the running. Thats why i'm trying to find an inexhaustible source of electrical energy too. 


I dreamed this night about the epg, and was kind of thinking a turbine inside a pipe having a magnetic core thus it can be drive from coils outside the pipe so it can pressurize having absolutely no leak of the media inside the tube. It could be made very efficient. Than i  thought of if we could add water with a magnetizable media and how a magnetizeable media would behave in the presence of magnetic fields, how to accelerate and magnetize the gas with only magnetic fields. I'm thinking that i would need to use a combination of magneto ad electro hydro dynamics. Would be like an electromagnetic pump.


If we were to use free energy we could already buy wind turbines or solar panels to run our houses, they already exist are there for sale and produce free electricity. Well in comparison with the price we pay for electricity is not actually free, however a small vertical wind turbine is not so expensive and produces big deal of power.






 

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Re: How to extract energy from ambient by sebosfato
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2010, 05:09:43 am »
I'm thinking about constructing a resonant tank to test that theory, i sent some emails to try to find some polipropilene film to make the capacitors than i will use copper foil to make the contact leads, this capacitor would handle maybe 100amps easily... but i will work with lower amperage maybe 10 amps max. The thing will be the coil witch i would like to have about 50mh with this i will make the electrostatic inducer having the resonant coil with a secondary winding too so to push the electrons like from the picture isolated from the other coil. I want only electrostatic force to act on the wire thru the diodes.


I think that if i have 10000v 10 amps circulating i will have a great deal of electric force to use for pushing pulling electrons... 


I will add spark gaps to protect the capacitor. Maybe with a 10mh coil i can already have some fun here just need the capacitor.



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Re: How to extract energy from ambient by sebosfato
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2012, 08:57:26 am »
The technological innovation promises to allow electricity generation by getting energy from ambient air, directing this air to the cooler upper environment through an atmospheric vortex. It can be used to increase the performance of existing power plants to produce electricity from the waste heat.