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J. Miller / Re: Stan Meyer gasgun mixed frequency led references
« Last post by Login to see usernames on July 12, 2023, 21:02:29 pm »
From what i see in terms of viability of mantaining the hydrogen fracturing like in a rocket

what stanley meyer call easer

is basically a laser tube with two mirrors where laser is injected continuously to start maintain the atomic reaction by impeeding the recombination of hydrogen and oxygen

what if the sun is not what we think? what if is just oxygen and hydrogen too hot to glue ? continuously releasing energy?
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J. Miller / Re: Stan Meyer gasgun mixed frequency led references
« Last post by Login to see usernames on July 12, 2023, 20:55:34 pm »
Detecting the absorption of a laser beam by air can be challenging since air is generally transparent to most laser wavelengths. However, certain conditions and techniques can help identify if a laser is absorbed or scattered by air. Here are a few methods you can consider:

Beam visibility: If the laser beam is visible along its entire path, it suggests that the laser is scattering off particles in the air. This scattering phenomenon is known as Rayleigh scattering and occurs more prominently for shorter wavelengths, such as blue or green lasers.

Beam attenuation: If the laser beam appears dimmer or weaker as it propagates through the air, it could indicate absorption by airborne particles or molecules. This effect becomes more pronounced with longer wavelengths, such as infrared lasers. Comparing the intensity of the laser beam at different distances can provide insights into potential absorption.

Beam divergence: If the laser beam rapidly expands or diverges over a short distance, it may suggest scattering or absorption. This occurs when the laser energy is transferred to the air, causing a decrease in the beam's intensity and coherence.

Detection equipment: Specialized equipment like LIDAR (Light Detection and Ranging) systems or laser absorption spectrometers can detect the absorption of laser light by atmospheric gases. These instruments utilize sophisticated techniques to measure the absorption and scattering characteristics of laser beams at specific wavelengths.

Environmental conditions: Certain atmospheric conditions can affect laser absorption, such as high humidity, fog, or airborne pollutants. In these situations, the laser beam may be scattered or absorbed to a greater extent, resulting in reduced visibility or power.

It's important to note that determining laser absorption by air requires careful analysis and often requires specialized equipment or knowledge. If you're working with lasers and need accurate measurements or assessments, it's recommended to consult experts or refer to scientific literature and research in the field.
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J. Miller / Re: Stan Meyer gasgun mixed frequency led references
« Last post by Login to see usernames on July 12, 2023, 20:47:11 pm »
How you are going to measure if or not the specific wavelenghts you have are affecting or not the molecules?

i would be important to know if or not the light is being absorbed…

most likely very few and very precise wavelengths can be absorbed the rest will only pass thru as if it was nothing…

Also coherence may be important too

i guess you could use some sort of light intensity detector …

I would give a try to those lasers used for engravers

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Sebosfato / Re: My new approach
« Last post by Login to see usernames on July 12, 2023, 14:28:42 pm »
You may experience some spark on the primary if the cell get charged

I think is a good idea to test the bifilar coil but you may experience some sparks at very high voltage applied

I got it to spark even without being bifilar so is in my concern aways
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J. Miller / Re: Stan Meyer gasgun mixed frequency led references
« Last post by Login to see usernames on July 12, 2023, 07:38:13 am »
Here is another great read (pdf attached)....photoelectric effect is most easily achieved and happens when the photon is absorbed by an inner-shell.... "pair production" is more difficult and happens when photon makes it to the nucleus and is absorbed, but compounding forces involved in the multiple resonant chambers tells me it's possible.

The last stage in Stan's hydrogen gas gun diagrams (5b of patent#5149407) shows photon/laser energy through a lens onto already ionized gasses, then voltage/magnetic/compression zone...triggering thermal explosive release.

In my mind, 656nm is the largest visible wavelength to be absorbed by hydrogen and must be absorbed by orbital electron(s)...410.1nm has a higher chance to make it past electron(s) and be absorbed by the nucleus. If that happens, the hydrogen would have more than enough dissasociation energy, and the photon would produce an electron and a positron. The hydrogen would be instantly negatively ionized, and the electron orbits would have to radically restructure, flipping the positron to another electron.
Stan's diagram of the atoms absorbing photon energy (6d of patent#5149407), is alot of info crammed into it. But we see oxygen on the low level...then a high energy level line, with liberated electrons traveling to a diagram of the Electron Extraction Circuit co-labeled "electron entrapment" and "hydrogen ions".

I believe 656nm works because it most likely interacts with a lower orbital of oxygen as well as hydrogen. It is unknown if 410nm will also "inject" energy into oxygen, but it's smaller wavelength intuitively tells it will collide with oxygen electrons...but, oxygen is pretty easily ionized into ozone and I think the voltage zone/EEC alone can satisfy oxygen ionization....the requirement needs to be stable negative ionization for both monoatomic hydrogen (H1-) and oxygen (O3-) so they repel each other and don't interact as they travel. Up until the moment of magnetic/physical compression...at which point the third oxygen breaks off and steals the H1- electron(s).
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Sebosfato / Re: My new approach
« Last post by Login to see usernames on July 12, 2023, 06:30:21 am »
I just got my replacement 4.6" MnZn PC40 ferrite toroid. I'm finalizing my transformer design now, I'm going to maximize mutual inductance between primary and secondary, thereby maximizing the re-routing of their forces with the positive feedback loop. I'm also bifilar winding the chokes on the same core, I have worked out how to rephase them all to work in harmony...

Only thing I'm still deciding is whether to wrap the primary+secondary bifilar, or wrap the primary on top of the secondary. Basically bifilar would increase mutual induction, but primary on top of secondary would allow higher step-up with larger diameter primary wound on top of smaller diameter secondary.
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J. Miller / Re: Stan Meyer gasgun mixed frequency led references
« Last post by Login to see usernames on July 12, 2023, 06:07:12 am »

That's correct. Nice info on the old LEDs. So, wouldn't you assume something much faster would raise the energy levels even higher? such as UV in the deep C region <100nm would instantaneously ionize the H+ atom causing the electron loss.

Yes, sub 100nm UV can even directly ionize water as well...but you run into problems like glass and even water being opaque to such frequencies (as well as most plastics). At 410nm glass, plastic, etc is still mostly transparent. Smaller wavelength light would work (less likely to be reflected by orbiting electron(s), if you can utilize exotic window materials. But 410.1nm is the most energetic frequency (still visible) that doesn't mandate such exotic lense materials. My tests so far show glass and water are mostly transparent, so I assume acrylic will also be transparent (testing soon), though it's unclear if acrylic will haze and get uv damaged over time with 410nm (I imagine it will, because cheap plastic cullimating lenses go bad with 405-450nm laser diodes)

If the photon is truly absorbed, it will become annihilated and produce two extra electrons. We want oxygen to release electrons, and we want hydrogen to absorb energy to dissasociate, and also gain an electron to hold monoatomic energy state...then once those criteria are met, when triggered in a final stage (magnetic pinch + voltage zone) , the electron deficient oxygen triggers the hydrogen to recombine (compression down) and releases "thermal explosive energy".
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J. Miller / Re: Stan Meyer gasgun mixed frequency led references
« Last post by Login to see usernames on July 12, 2023, 02:56:55 am »
From the history of LEDs....regarding Red
The cheapest, and most abundant of Stan's time (not a whole lot changed, they just got brighter and more durable/weatherproof)

"The first commercially usable LEDs were developed in the 1960’s by combining three primary elements: gallium, arsenic and phosphorus (GaAsP) to obtain a 655nm red light source."

655nm....1nm off from Hydrogen's lowest energy emission/absorbtion spectrum🤔

P.S. 410nm is 0.1nm off from Hydrogen's most energetic emission/absorbtion spectrum....656nm can push the electron up 1 energy level, 410.1nm can push it up 4 energy levels. 🤓

That's correct. Nice info on the old LEDs. So, wouldn't you assume something much faster would raise the energy levels even higher? such as UV in the deep C region <100nm would instantaneously ionize the H+ atom causing the electron loss.
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Sebosfato / Re: My new approach
« Last post by Login to see usernames on July 11, 2023, 03:51:32 am »
Here is a picture of what I’m talking about….

As you see the chokes can have a core of its own to increase the distributed inductance

They must have probably smaller turns than secondary

Water very very pure in this case …

The inductance of the chokes will restrict the current although they are non inductively added

Therefore acting as a charging choke coil inside the transformer

So any current flowing thru it will be accumulating power on its own core side in this example coming from secondary and at same time the cell is receiving negative potential on both electrodes

After when pulse collapses the voltage of the chokes will sum with the distributed energy and produce a positive pulse on the cell that will momentarily break the water volume that is polarized on the electrode

I believe this ability of the choke to discharge the first core along into itself inductance will provide enough charge separation to cause some interesting effects provided low capacitance and thick wires envolved







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Sebosfato / Re: My new approach
« Last post by Login to see usernames on July 11, 2023, 02:38:08 am »
For example I have two toroids

One I wind the primary and secondary

Than put the other close to it and wind the chokes on both

Add a capacitor after the diode between the chokes

I think very few turns would be needed in that case but must work on low voltage high current input

Hope you get the idea

I don’t think bifilar is a good idea if a minimum voltage is to be maintained across the cell that is not proportional to the chokes difference only

At least some 5kv isolation would be desired and probably encapsulement or oil fill or water fill haha

I remember a picture of Stan holding a very huge toroidal coil seem to be air core

From this perspective the secondary of the Vic serves just to maintain polarization and cause a minimum to zero current flow during pulse on I believe just to be able to maintain the polarization of the electrodes than

The chokes will pick this current and energy of the core and discharge thru the capacitance to the cell

Having a difference in the chokes length will cause a voltage across the cell balancing it to the diffence of radius of the electrodes may maximize the voltage output since less current wil flow there

Is possible that this capacitance can be a plate inside the cell

The design of it will tell how much voltage will be there for a given charge

The thing is that in this manner pulling electrons from both electrodes is the only physical manner of disturbing the dielectric in the way Stan discribed and cause a voltage field without amp flowing

How much is needed to break the water?

How is it different than applying 40kv with a thin flyback?

Hell a lot

First that the chokes size and mass will tell how many charges will be momentarily displaced from the electrodes

Long story short

The thicker the wire the more charges available

The longer the wire the smaller is the electric field

I believe something like 1kv per turn may be achievable maybe more





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