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Maybe this company could help

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He says that exactly what I was trying to explain capacitors are the opposite of resistors since inside capacitors the dielectric will form a dipole that will contain all the electric fields inside… a resistor instead can be used in a manner to instead create an electric field outside of it by a current flowing inside…

The electric charge will depend on the voltage and size and shape… and as I stated before charge is force

Electrodynamics studies this

Setting up a positive field on the cell make the water produce a current

As I have already pointed the configuration of the ground on the water will tell how much current will flow on the high voltage bifilar side

This current is not the current flowing to ground is the differential current flowing in the bifilar

Adding two resistors is possible to individualize these currents and differentiate them in respect to the current flowing to ground

Water ground may be a simple piece of metal inside water but it must form a high resistance in the way to the electrodes

I would guess the best place to make it would be inside the water filter or even make the polímero filter inside a stainless steel pipe and just connect it to ground…

Voltage is important because we are dealing with charging the self capacitance of the inside electrode actually both

The secondary is set to zero up this current and so it must sum its voltage to the choke going to the inner electrode

Now comes the nice thing I was thinking

Stan was not dumb so he thought of a way to mechanically or electromechanicaly or even electronically create this condition instead of a wiper arm

That was probably a patent over simplification drawing

Stan had some pulsing ckts showing two variac and now I’m going to try to explain why

First Stan used a wave form that seem like a high duty cycle I think this charge the chokes for flyback discharge

I believe The opposite duty cycle is what fires the secondary during the chokes flyback discharge

This way will be easier to determine the exact voltage ratio the secondary must have for a given voltage collapsing or the coils to make the current zero at least at that very instant after it may have a a inevitable flow as the pulse shapes are not going to be equal but the point is to find the voltage where current starts at zero

So it’s a combination of a pulse in the secondary and the collapse of the chokes so it would really double the frequency

We need to create a voltage on the secondary variable to be able to find the correct ratio

It’s going to depend on may things

First the construction of the cavity and the resistance of both electrodes to ground this is the most important parameter

I think a variable choke resistor coil could be useful in a real world usage and that may be why he patented exactly it

A wiper arm imply a kind of short ckt on the contacts

If you ever took your variac apart you see that the contact is a sort of medium resistance graphite to be able to not short the two turns it touches

Also a variac has more turns normally to keep the voltages per turn low

 … a resistive wire won’t pose that problem of shorting between turns with the wiper arm

and being it under effect of the electromagnetic induced voltage it will have less losses than a actual resistor outside of the coil

This could actually be the closest possible theory of this thing I ever had!

So determining the correct voltage drop needed on the negative side can lead to the design of a coil that is simpler and all in one


Another method to change the secondary to choke ratio voltage would be to use coupling

For example having a movable core that cuts the field to the secondary for example

I think im staring to understand why Meyer care so much about the resistances not only on the Vic but also the water

The resistance will tell how much power will be needed to maintain a certain voltage on water respect to ground

And this is important because voltage is equivalent to charge and charge to force

So the geometric configuration is essencial to minimize the current flow to capacitance ratio


Ps when I talk about collapse etc don’t forget there is also resonance going on I just simplify the analysis to tell what is going at moment of switching

The cell and chokes at this point would be operating in resonance to the water capacitance ground

Another way to go for it ia to have two resistor at the choke starts to ground the resistor will give the diferential voltage

So adding more turns on the positive choke would equilibra-te the voltage on the resistors

When they read zero you have supposedly achieved the goal

Seems the simplest method with no fancy equipment just a voltmeter a couple of high precision and maybe power resistors

The proportionality of secondary to choke voltage may work if cell parameters are fixed

We have doing a blind dumb work building stuff

With some eye on this concepts I expect being less dumb

The dual coil assembly makes the bifilar split into two coils

The force will be acting most at the secondary bifilar tips

And the coils will transmit the two positive pulses relative to ground straight to the cell

As I tried to explain before the charges in the wires will be rearranged by the charges on the other wire in the bifilar case

Now come the interesting part

Now imagine that this two positive pulses are free to be transmitted along the wire by displacing charges but the chokes also have its electric field going so the pulse can be accelerated by the electric field

Atoms don’t move in the wire only the electrons and so we must analyse it from the electrons perspective

The electrons will attracted to the tipos or the chokes when the secondary apply the positive pulses

So causing a wave of electrons to be pulled along the wires or push if it is negative pulses

In a normal action the transmission line will charge the capacitance thru the inductance and the pulse goes on

In this case is the same but as the choke is subjected to also an electric field along its way

This de localized electrons wave can be accelerated or even maybe retarded by the field

Stan talk about amp restriction so at first glance it may seem it’s likely to be retarding but may be contraintuitive

Adding resistance in series

This will allow a greater voltage drop in a manner that we can balance the voltage more precisely

For example 1ohm will give one volt per 1ma difference so is a good idea to use two resistors with 1% precision

After it’s zero current flowing or zero voltage at the bridge the resistance can be taken out to maximize power

A transformer with a bifilar secondary would be ideal to test it…

I believe different frequencies will give different results since the capacitance reactance will change so is better to find the resonance first than test at that frequency for balance

In that case the resistors may be connected at one side of the secondary to ground forming a bridge so having the oscilloscope on the bifilar connection to this resistors will show the diferential current

Adding secondary turns on one side only will balance that

Here I think the core size may come into play since too big of a core will have less precision as it need less turns

So maybe the higher number of turns may be handy in this balance

Maybe is not needed maybe it can be compensated with a resistor capacitor or inductor depending if there is some phase for example

I’m very anxious to see it working but I’m kind of confident it may give some result because of the test I mentioned with the acrylic cup with the copper foil around that was the ground

Moving the ground into water having the channel only as a connection of the plates being them isolated around

Make the capacitance many times greater and also it allow some conductance

So here applying 1000v is not 1 v on water and 999 on plastic

It will be basically 2000v with some 20ma making 40watts waste power

And at resonance the power may increase

The secondary can be that few turns with wiper arm

As you see if v1-v2 =0 v3 is zero meaning zero current

Also the voltage of each cell should be the same if same voltage is applied to them reference to ground

The trick is adding resistance

It will allow a measurable voltGe drop

Remember the objective is have zero current between the electrodes