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Overunity devices / Over Unity Systems In The Past
« Last post by Login to see usernames on August 22, 2023, 03:40:29 am »

  -- Many years ago, there was page article with drawing of spiral vortex dual 110v AC transformers that would provide higher wattage on output. (You know about the tornado effect) The unit was tested on refrigerator with proper meters and power factor. Also the best wind mill generator design was the US Patented "Tornado Turbine", Also the late Mr. Baumgartner demonstrated a hover platform lifting effect with small wattage train motor rewired in series for speed, and vortex spinning vanes. He had used computer program to design it. It was shown lifting him in a room and then later, the front end of city bus.  1950 Military motor pool soldiers converted used oil furnace to run on water. Fire pot at 1500 degrees then allows super-heated steam from SS tubing heat exchanger to add to 90lb oil flow to tiny pin point oil nozzle. When steam exits from 90lb high pressure to ambient zero pressure in fire pot the hydrogen and oxygen torch flame keeps heating. Oil valve shut off. If water line shut down, furnace has to be restarted on oil. Much smaller  version in crate was shown to Washington senator in underground parking lot. US patent application was refused. Why can't anything be purchased.      Alexander US Patent 3913004 1975 The technique of rotation with transformer effect (double wires on rotor) as in the above Patent method to increase energy, allowed inventor to make self running car with 4 air motors at wheels with air tank, battery , alternator, and modified military motor/generator with excessive output torque free energy to run main air compressor. The Stan Meyer Patented ionized Hydrogen gas H+H+O-- generator is way over unity (not electrolysis) and usable since the Patents time has ran out. In 1980's New York there was a self running air compressor with no battery or motor. The main shaft had journal with air cylinder that had higher pressure coming from inherent vortex tube higher pressure than 40lb tank + insulated heat chamber. Unit had spoked, balanced, heavy rim steel flywheel. Tube had 3 machined parts from 3 separate work machine shops, so as final design as put together would not be known. Inventor was mowing lawn outside trailer with long air hose hooked to tank. The interested Company reneged on the $3 million dollars wanted after 1 year. John W. Keely had shown demonstrations in 1890's Phil. Pa, of lifting effect (no gravity) with resonance frequencies and harmonic ratios using array of tuning forks and multiplication of higher vibrations on heavy metal spheres .His "transmitter wires" of gold, platinum + silver, are now called thermocouples and thermopiles. Witnessed by engineers, newspaper men, and investors at that time. Tesla didn't like Keely since Keely got more investor's money than he did. S1R9A9M9 (Nathren) of 2008 videos showed Briggs mower engine self running over unity with water in carburetor. Hydrogen gas electrolysis at spark plug with also water vapor pressure generated same time at neg 34 degrees ATDC. Magnetic field coil - called triple coils assy, over plug wire extends firing time for more contact with water. EGR improves performance. Alternator with magnets under flywheel provides constant 10 amps after battery was disconnected. Web site shut down. Special vacuumed sealed dual 1.6MH coils relay per cylinder also used for time spark extension. His CONVERTED carb type 1978 V8 El C amino tooled around town until locked up in security garage. You don't know about specialized information because you want data dropped in your lap, rather than doing your own science research yourself and finding out what others have already done. Back issues alternate energies magazines, documents you have to purchase, and published data on Internet YOU have to search for. See DVD VHS movies The Water Engine and 1949 Free For All . 
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Your Design / Re: Hydrostar design with para and ortho regulator
« Last post by Login to see usernames on August 22, 2023, 03:35:06 am »
I studied the circuit for Hydrostar years ago. That was an off shute of the Meyer cell, if you didn't know. Chambers used to work for Meyer and knew about the important circuits for efficient hydrogen fuel generation. If you look at his modified Patent, and flip the diagrams pages back and forth , you can surmise that the back EMF of the wire coil would hook to the electrodes as high voltage voltrolysis.
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Horvath / Re: Horvath articles
« Last post by Login to see usernames on August 22, 2023, 03:25:53 am »
I studied the Horvath patents and understand the circuits. A duplication does not need a new cast carburetor and machined spoked electrodes. The Electrical circuit is just a beefed up capacitor discharge ignition for improved efficiency electrolysis for hydrogen and oxygen at 450 watts battery draw. The gases flow from water safety can to a "spud in jet" as fitting on side of old 1 barrel carburetor at the venturi point. This beveled copper tube + farrow seal cap was also used on small engines on propane conversion without the expensive type kit purchase.
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General Discussion / Re: S1R9A9M9 18HP Briggs riding mower engine ran on water( 2008)
« Last post by Login to see usernames on August 22, 2023, 03:03:07 am »
On the NON affirming / opposition side,- upon deep review of original circuit drawing, for their auto conversion, the center diode between the inductors is only rated 600v, with ignition minimum 10kv against it, and diode facing the wrong direction. The low voltage facing was positive, while the ignition was negative as also called positive ground. Also, an inductor does not HOLD a charge like a capacitor does, as normally used with the expelling Radiant Energy as from diode releasing capacitor energy the same time. It seems now, that the original circuit was contributing just low voltage 7A DC current, -34 degrees timing, high voltage DC , and required magnetic field for the 8 spark plugs of the 1978 Chevy V8. If there was no Radiant Energy produced within the vacuum of the so called "Magic Relays", this may be just minerals water spark plug electrolysis for Hydrogen, with associated formed water vapor pressure addition, and the inductors magnetic field that all operated the engine with alternator recharging the 2 batteries on car. Was there a conspiracy there in 2005-2012 Georgia back then, with the main schematic shown on Internet being modified, so as duplication would be harder to do? I can see the relay inductors being used for the extension of spark TIME, and contributing the magnetic field for end use, but why not also add Neodymium ring magnets to the plugs? The N or S magnetism would carry down to the tiny tips in combustion chamber. Maybe the magic was just that.
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General Discussion / Re: S1R9A9M9 18HP Briggs riding mower engine ran on water( 2008)
« Last post by Login to see usernames on August 20, 2023, 19:20:11 pm »
The S1R9A9M9 engine conversion to water in carburetor  may relay on Radiant Energy flowing down circuit to spark plug chamber. The earlier Patented ignition circuit that uses Radiant Energy release from modified CD ignition was from the 2nd. discharge of residual capacitor content into transformer primary that passes through capacitor diode that is connected to High Voltage output. The diode is open, then closed. When the accessory current passes .through, the Radiant energy from diode also goes out. Nathren's 2005-2012 conversion of V8 engine and the Briggs 18HP was different circuit, but may have had same influence to spark plug. The cars had dual coils relay, per cylinder with many diodes. The half wave DC charged the inductor with diode output. The CHARGE is released when plug fires but uses the coil energy INSTEAD of a capacitor type energy. The engines ran on water vapor pressure + fired Hydrogen gas from plug electrolysis. The coils inductance was necessary because of the desired on time in Milliseconds,  not Microseconds as with cap discharges. His car tooled around for about 3000 miles on 18 miles per gallon water, until locked up in security garage. The 3 technicians there in Georgia said the Relays sealed in vacuum  were worth their weight in gold. It seems they were just lucky to have it hooked up right. They did not know how they actually worked ! The AC traffic signal control pole relays were not used as normal click type method.The contacts and L + L coils passed HIGH VOLTAGE and also low voltage. The Briggs 18HP riding mower engine had to have an added  triple magnetic coils assembly since there was no easy way to change timing from preset TDC to -34 degrees late timing. The cars' distributor turned easily to change timing. There was data saying from the now shut down web site, that parts added to plastic tub on side of Briggs, was referenced to the Tesla Hairpin circuit that formed Radiant Energy. The high volts ignition fired accessory spark gap with capacitors , so that other side of caps produce Radiant Energy transferred to primary of S1R triple coils primary. The passing through high volts to plug carried this radiant Energy along with approx 10amps current. Briggs started with 12v battery, then completely disconnected. The engine ran on just the dual alternators output, since there were 12 MAGNETS under flywheel for free power , as long as the crankshaft was turning. Nathren neglected to say it was self running. The Yellow + Yellow wires or Black + Black wires Briggs ring alternators can produce 14 amps and higher with bridge rectification. One diode would allow just about 10 amps half wave DC current. The original relays are discontinued and no longer available to purchase. Diagram of same is on Internet with (2) 1.5 Millihenry inductors with centered in series diode.. The technicians back then hand made 2 relays to simulate the originals, but failed. The built relay circuits were in open air, not vacuum. The vacuum holds in the white Radiant Energy generated on the enclosed diode output as 90 degrees perpendicular to wire concentrated, so as can follow further down the circuit. The Necessary Magnetic field over Briggs plug wire carries down to spark plug electrodes, as does with auto engine. They called it "Electromagnet". After about a year tinkering, they finally found out how to make engine run smoother , by the type engine used as having An EGR system mounted.The Nitrogen content of expelled moisture is reused as from compression of air into water which is 78% Nitrogen.   See again the 2008 S1R9A9M9 (2) You Tube videos of mower engine running on water that sounds like a water pump!
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J. Miller / Re: Stanley A Meyer Steam Resonator
« Last post by Login to see usernames on August 18, 2023, 07:21:07 am »
The steam resonator was part of his last patents that expired in 2012.
It's incredibly simple...it's two identical ungrounded transformers with their primaries wired in series. The secondaries are attached to stainless steel plates, and the plates are overlapped in such a way to block their current paths, and still impinge an oscillating force on the water molecule. Basically the closest opposite polarity electrode is from the other transformer, so no direct ionic connection can be made across either transformer's secondary, so the load is only the primary current draw.

If I remember correctly it's like this....LXLS=Left transformer left secondary wire, RXLS=Right transformer left secondary, LXRS=Left transformer right secondary, RXRS=Right transformer right secondary
                     
                     First 1/2 cycle
 (transformers wired with same polarity primaries)

LXLS     RXRS                  LXRS     RXLS
   | +           | -                        | -            | +


                Second 1/2 cycle
 (transformers wired with same polarity primaries)

LXLS     RXRS                  LXRS     RXLS
   | -            | +                       | +            | -

                            Or

                   First 1/2 cycle
 (transformers wired with opposite polarity primaries)

LXLS     RXLS                  LXRS     RXRS
   | +           | -                        | -           | +




                    Second 1/2 cycle
 (transformers wired with opposite polarity primaries)

LXLS     RXLS                  LXRS     RXRS
   | -            | +                        | +          | -



   




Edit: had the polarities mixed up, fixed
(The like charges in the middle repel the ions trying to go to the opposite side of their respective circuit...as the electrode plates are close together...say, no more than a centimeter apart...more like 5mm I recall from the disclosure photos)









   







   




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Stanley Meyer / Re: Stanley Meyer demystified
« Last post by Login to see usernames on August 18, 2023, 05:15:37 am »
Last thing for now.
My custom wound toroidal transformer is (temporarily was) a huge success. I used a EL817 optoisolator to trigger a pre-amp ksp2222a npn, that triggers the power-stage 2n3055 npn transistor all commonly powered (except the input signal) by a Vhf engineering 11-15v regulated power supply I set to 13.5v. The input signal ground is attached to common ground.

 The results were observed by monitoring the input signal on the LED side of the optoisolator and common ground on channel A of my oscilloscope (setting this to the trigger channel of the oscilloscope), and then channel B was attached to the 2n3055 tab (collector).
The results showed an incredibly high bandwidth of operation, and a pleasant audible musical quality reminiscent of retro 8-bit arcade music 🤣

I applied a neon across the secondary to aid in visual observation and was the only secondary load during my tests. I found that the MgZn ferrite core "rings" during the entire operation, from 1hz to 15mhz. The first resonance was found at around 150hz, the most powerful resonance at approximately 300hz, but higher harmonics at 900hz and 1.8mh were barely lower voltage than 300hz, going to higher harmonics produced more significantly lower voltages. I couldn't observe the secondary side as I do not have a probe capable of enduring the high voltage. However, my oscilloscope read just under 300v peaks on the primary side in the same polarity as the input, but out of phase 180deg, matching the T-Off period of the input at 300hz resonance.

Sadly, transferring my breadboard circuit to protoboard, I reverse biased the ksp2222a accidentally and overvoltaged the emitter to gate, frying the only ksp2222a I had at the time, and the opto. Only economical source of ksp2222a I found was in China (after trying multiple pre-amp npn transistors, the ksp2222a performed amazingly), and they recently arrived. I knew they would be slightly different than the one I had used, so I replaced the 220ohm limiting resistors I had used, with variable 500ohm resistors. Again, sadly...they performed very poorly, the circuit worked, but the performance observed in the waveform was atrocious. The transformer operation was dampened and the waveform was not ringing like it was before and the highest voltage observed on the collector tab was 34v...I resoldered many times getting it all back together, and that coupled with the leaky variable resistors I suspect was responsible for the poor performance, as I saw the characteristic ringing oscillations I was after, unreliably, and momentarily when I would physically push on the variable resistors. So I yet again remade the signal and amplification circuit on a protoboard using my original 220ohm resistors, all new ICs and never soldering above 300c. I'm nearly ready to test it again, and I'm hoping I again see the performance I had on my breadboard. If I do, I will post pics, maybe a video, and I will make a circuit diagram showing how well all NPN triggering works...oh yeah, it's actually 3 NPNs, as the output side of the opto is also an NPN.
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Stanley Meyer / Re: Stanley Meyer demystified
« Last post by Login to see usernames on August 18, 2023, 03:32:43 am »
I am posting currently from my cell phone...I recently moved my PC desk and my work station to create a proper work area. I need to finish setting up my PC so I can edit these illustrations with color overlays to make my observations visually obvious to others. But, for a "teaser" to my revelation, I will post the unedited key illustration(s) from Stan's patents now, and verbally explain it.

If you analyze the attached illustration(s), specifically 8b, you will see the "Voltage intensifier circuit" is analogous to an ignition coil (if not an actual standard ignition coil). Analyzing Stan's illustration attached, labeled 8b, notice the common connection between the primary and secondary (autotransformer)...notice the "ground" symbol connection at this junction. That "ground" symbol is deceptive...the polarization of the primary is backwards in the illustration, it's either deceptive, or just a conceptual diagram. The truthful polarization of that coil would have the ground symbol actually be low-voltage positive at that common connection point, and common ground at the opposite side of the primary.

I'm a conspiracy theorist through and through...and it's my suspiscion that this illustration was edited after the fact, evidenced by the anomalous continuation of the elipse at the top of secondary coil past the termination point to the diode and choke leading to the middle electrode, and also, if you zoom into various areas of the illustration...it appears the edit was done very crudely with MS paint 🤣
The original is photocopied and contains line breaks, inclusions and other optical artifacts....the edited areas are perfectly straight digitally created lines without optical artifacts, and if you look really hard, you can see slight misalignment, and portions of the original (removed) lines barely showing underneath.

I implore you to, at least temporarily, assume what I say is correct, and ignore the specifics of the deceptive alterations. The core of Stan's illustration persists, and the edits only mislead those who would attempt to create a circuit directly from the illustration instead of having a true understanding of the phenomena.

Now, analyze 8b's primary positive connection, notice the evidence of editing at this connection and then at several spots along the path...realize that this is actually the true point of the common primary/secondary connection, and then superimpose my circuit over it in your mind...this is the low-voltage positive, the path after the current limiting resistor is an edit...look at how perfect the illustration line is, it's a digital edit after the fact, it's so obvious. Something critical has been altered, so, just look at the core premise of the illustration....realize that it's my circuit's "split positive" diode chain path to the third electrode....quite literally, look at the last diode's polarization, look at the electrode arrangement, the inner electrode extends past the outter electrode, the floating 3rd electrode supplying LV+....it's what I have shown you here!!!

Lastly, let's analyze the familiar waveform of the attached Fig7 illustration.

What do you see? I used to think it was a gated resonant frequency...It is NOT!!! It is actually the synthesized equivalent of ~100uf capacitor at 120v....(ironic???) It's rectified 60hz AC...each pulse is 120hz four pulses long...that's a 30hz pulse, or a 33.3millisecond pulse. It's not a coincidence that the calculated capacitance of a capacitor taking 33.3milliseconds to discharge across an ignition coil primary having 7.6ohm resistance, and 1.48uh impedance (the value of my Spectra c624 ignition coil primary) is 90.7uf 🤔
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Stanley Meyer / Re: Stanley Meyer demystified
« Last post by Login to see usernames on August 17, 2023, 23:17:56 pm »
As stated in a related thread...I have been on vacation with the family, and then had a lot of things to get done before winter rain starts here on the west-coast. Haven't had a lot of time, but I have been doing what I can, when I can.

I analyzed this circuit with my oscilloscope at a lower input power (12v signal generator). I have discovered two isolated, and inverted current flows (opposite direction) existing simutaneously within the ignition secondary. However, at such a low power, I was unable to trigger the phenomena shown in this video. I have come to the conclusion that there is a threshold voltage and/or current  to trigger the phenomena shown, as I observed both currents, but could not get the HV lead to reverse direction as shown, I believe the current density (magnetism, ie self/mutual induction) is the overcoming factor, and the autotransforming action is the initiator, so it seems that the phenomena is neither of the two hypothesized modes of operation...instead it is a combination of both simutaneously. The autotransformer voltage distribution, and the rerouting/regauging of the opposing self/mutual induction are both prime-movers or essential factors in this phenomena. With focus on a low impedance primary, and a high(er) impedance secondary joined into one assymetrical autotransformer. (I want to attempt this on my very low impedance toroidal transformer so bad, but I'm scared I will short the secondary...I will do it, as I can re-wind it, but I need to do some more resonance tests first...lol)

In between active experiments and tests, I reanalyzed many of Stan's patents, most specifically his illustrations. Upon doing so, I made what I believe to be, a huge revelation. 14yrs ago, I was super excited about this circuit, and intuitively proclaimed it was the key...I now believe that more than ever!!!

After re-analyzing Stan's patent diagrams....I see this EXACT circuit in his circuit diagrams. Instead of a dual-pole, dual-throw relay/toggle....he used an SCR to deliver the EXACT same input. I will proceed to prove this in the following posts to come, and furthermore, I will show that Stan's "Electron Extraction Circuit" is the "split positive" diode chain in my circuit.
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