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Stanley Meyer / Re: Stanley Meyer demystified
« Last post by Login to see usernames on August 30, 2023, 18:24:49 pm »
Thats a very nice drawing! 
I can follow what your are thinking there..

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Stanley Meyer / Re: Stanley Meyer demystified
« Last post by Login to see usernames on August 30, 2023, 11:31:56 am »
Fixed it, gonna post it here and edit the original post and include it, but my handwritten notes have some good info, so gonna leave the original....sorry all this one is polished though  ;)
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Stanley Meyer / Re: Stanley Meyer demystified
« Last post by Login to see usernames on August 30, 2023, 07:41:17 am »
Yeah, lol stayed up late drawing it, sorry...machined the assembly, and then actually wired the components correctly that day, reversed the SCR and Q1 and Q2 NPNs polarity to the FWB rectifier and C1 capacitor as if PNPs when drawing it up tired last night 🤦‍♂️
Verbal correction while I fix it - (PNPs won't work as SCR conducts in the same manner as a NPN)...FWB positive goes directly to C1 capacitor positive terminal (not ground), SCR Cathode connects directly to FWB negative, SCR anode connects to Q1 NPN emitter, Q1 collector connects C1 capacitor negative terminal. Then, Q2 emitter connects directly to C1 capacitor negative terminal, Q2 collector connects to primary negative, Primary positive then connects directly to C1 positive terminal.....🥴🥱 like I said days ago...switching on the negative....🤦‍♂️ sorry, the rest is correct.
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Stanley Meyer / Re: Stanley Meyer demystified
« Last post by Login to see usernames on August 30, 2023, 06:29:10 am »
Spotted a mistake on the FWB rectifier and SCR connection polarity...working on the fix now
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Stanley Meyer / Re: Stanley Meyer demystified
« Last post by Login to see usernames on August 30, 2023, 04:24:19 am »
Furthermore, the intermixed discharge of these two flows creates a distinct HV, low amperage arc, then a slightly lower HV, high current discharge. High-surge current density is needed to make it happen....together with a low impedance primary makes for a tricky delivery. The alternate gating is to fill the rather small capacitor, and then disconnect it before discharging into the primary...while it's not a lot of power over time, it's quite a high surge current, something like 80amps in 33milliseconds or so....if you wanted to ramp it even further with, say a .48uh primary, E-Core epoxy insulated high performance ignition coil, you would probably need a smaller capacitor and surge-current would most likely be even higher.
Also, that circuit schematic isn't exact, pull-down resistors would need to be used, along with correct limiting resistors for the NPN gates, the SCR gate and correct voltage dividing....I have not found a single simulator that can correctly simulate this....and I doubt I will. So, I am carefully proceeding, as my SCR is $158....lol
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Stanley Meyer / Re: Stanley Meyer demystified
« Last post by Login to see usernames on August 30, 2023, 04:00:22 am »
I mean, it's all laid out....but, I will try and reiterate...Stan did several different things, the demo cell (Dave Lawton replication) is the worst. The next iteration Stan developed right before the miniaturized plug version, was by his own words "tweaked" to produce more gas. That is the autotransformer and diode positive feedback loop. The same circuit drives the last iteration (water fuel plugs). The conversation I initially had with chat gpt is correct, the second theory I had about instantaneous voltage distribution across an inductor (how a variac can be ran in step-up or step-down) is ALSO correct...I initially didn't think both could happen...but. after running the ignition coil/diode chain feedback loop at 12v with a 1/2 watt limiting 220ohm resistor in series with the primary....I swept every harmonic up until it drops off at around 3mhz. The first resonance was found at right around 150hz. In resonance at such low power, the phenomena I showed when dumping a capacitor straight into the primary (disappearing forward induction, straight to flyback polarity) did not happen. Instead using two channels, I set channel one to trigger using the cmos signal on the isolated side of my opto. Then I started by probing the negative of the primary. I found a much higher voltage mirrored signal, with the same phase (lowest input current, and voltage rise on primary in resonance). Probing the primary LV+ before the diodes (hooked to LV+ but, unhooked from the secondary HV lead) I saw almost nothing. Moving to the end of the free-floating diode chain I saw a curious sight, but it would not trigger, i attached the second channel ground to the primary negative while second channel probe was attached to end of diode chain, and shorted the common ground in my oscilloscope. I detached the triggering ground of channel 1, and checked again (now grounded to LV+) ...on the other side of the diode chain, free-floating in air...was a HV wave of opposite polarity but in phase. The diode chain was blocking it from causing issues and the standing resonant tension across the primary kept the two inverted ground potentials separated across the primary despite the HV lead conducting through a neon load to primary ground. Two opposing currents standing still across the primary. The same thing happening across the secondary...these are the opposing counter currents of self/mutual induction....not opposing.....instead, moved out of the way, just waiting all politely lol.

When allowed to conduct, this lower powered manifestation does increase the overall power seen in the load neon....but not like before (not as intense, and the wrong polarity).....the neon shows that the polarity is NOT flyback polarity...primary ground is positive biased to the diode chain/HV lead. So, without the current density, the magnetic flux isn't strong enough to produce enough opposing self/mutual induction counter-flow to overcome the normal flow and pull it all into the backside of the secondary (postive feedback loop).....because, the higher the magnetism, the longer it takes the forward current to get across the primary coil and the higher the counter-emf voltage climbs , yet the primary voltage travels across the coil instantly...and here's the key, this autotransformer voltage distribution (instantly across the primary......and the much higher impedance secondary, as if one long variac in step-up mode) results in the LV+ overextending all the way to the top of the secondary and becoming HV+. This results in a much stronger/faster pull on the primary current lagging behind 90deg. This in turn creates an even larger counter self/mutual induction than normal, the assymetry of the primary + secondary inductance as one coil, means the voltage of the mutually induced counter current in the secondary overcomes the autotransformer voltage (HV+) faster than the primary surge-current can get through the primary (the increased voltage=greater magnetism=greater opposed self/mutual induction=greater initial current lag....quite counter-intuitively) and it makes the diode chain start to conduct the opposing mutual-induction from the secondary, and the opposing self-induction from the primary to practically zero ohm backside of the secondary. This not only removes the opposition out of the way of the primary current making its way all the way to the tip of the secondary, these two flows, now create their own opposing self/mutual induction flows that pile up on the primary current/voltage, as such, the primary current moves faster than it would normally cross the primary and now wants to go up to the LV+ turned HV+ at the top of the secondary, the opposing flows head to same place in an opposite direction through the diode chain...this compounding positive feedback loop continues until the primary current empties from the capacitor. The moment the capacitor empties, the magnetic field collapses and both currents reverse polarity and all of the currents are in the secondary (either in the coil, or on it's backside in the feedback loop)...the 100uf capacitor is not enough to make if all the way across the primary (if it makes it at all), the self/mutual induced currents flip to HV+ , the primary HV+ at the top of the secondary flips to negative and through the low resistance HV lead, keeps the diodes conducting. The HV+ counter-flows are more opposed to ground, and when I sprayed water in a confined glass bottle containing the triple electrode setup I showed before, it avoided the middle diode chain electrode and skin effect conducted on the wet glass around it to the ground electrode....but, if the path to the middle electrode is the lower resistance than the ground electrode, the HV+ will strike lower HV+ of the primary current coming out of the diode chain, and together they will then pull even more current from the ground electrode.
There is some wave destruction as the discharge voltage is lower then normal flyback (normal flyback spark can span the entire distance, and this phenomena has to be positioned to span two 1/2 distances)....but ALL the current (minus loses) is applied to HV....the primary current is not destroyed as normally happens.....hopefully it clicks now.
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Stanley Meyer / Re: Stanley Meyer demystified
« Last post by Login to see usernames on August 29, 2023, 21:13:21 pm »
I am listening  :) :) :)
Go on!
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Stanley Meyer / Re: Stanley Meyer demystified
« Last post by Login to see usernames on August 29, 2023, 07:03:32 am »
P.S. I didn't draw or mention the chokes, because I already explained their function in previous analysis of this autotransformer feedback loop. They delay current flow, to bring it in harmony with the primary current dump. The only thing that isn't %100 certain is the placement of the resistive load...I placed it on the negative because of Stan's patent that describes a custom resistor on the negative consisting of a sandwich stack of stainless steel and carbon....that, and my observation of the 3 terminal discharge I shared in video before. The HV lead must arc to the LV+ diode string (it would rather arc to ground), then current can be seen rising from the ground up to the LV+. That is how the current amplification phenomena manifests. I will repost videos somewhere more secure than YouTube in the future, both videos are actually correct...but, idk...it's so easy to make one yourself, it's not a priority of mine...and if you do, it will be self-evident.

P.P.S. the chokes would go on the HV lead to the tube set, and the negative lead to tube set...the EEC resisitive load would most likely go on the LV+ after the diodes (like I said in earlier posts, ignore the misinfo and do not wind the chokes to nullify mutual induction)...good luck everyone.

Edit: I made an educated guess on the chokes, and the EEC resistive load in the previous post's edit...pretty sure I got it licked....
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Stanley Meyer / Re: Stanley Meyer demystified
« Last post by Login to see usernames on August 28, 2023, 16:37:48 pm »
I did it...we have been so misinformed...using my knowledge/memory, and ability to hyper-fixate to my advantage. That plus my inclination to listen to my intuition....I used only components as listed by Stan, but I analyzed the evidence of patent tampering/digital editing after the fact to aid my efforts. I'm certain I figured it out, I know trying to monetize it leads to suppression, so I'm going to just give the info out free. I will answer honest questions, but I will not indulge any speculation, dissolution or distracting redirecting. This pretty much squares my obligations to mankind, and I'm not going to be public about my progress beyond the schematic I'm going to share, and a few pics of my power circuit. This is not about digital circuitry....I have made a nice cd4047b pulse generator, but I'm using my amazing FPGA I got for $80 on sale. It's super accurate and very easy to use....Anyway, enough talk. Take a look, I encourage you to download it or take screenshot. This is the key to Stan, Puriarch,  the Gray tube, the fueless noble gas engine, etc,etc, etc. It's actually the key to the gas processor, the WFC, and even Stan's injector plugs.

Edit: Accidentally drew the SCR, and the NPNs with the wrong polarity...this new attachment is legit  8)
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Tur55 / Re: Stanley Meyer's fuel cell theory
« Last post by Login to see usernames on August 28, 2023, 11:06:58 am »
Hi Tur55,

It is clear that you have your theory on how the vic might work.
Did you build already a setup that is based on your theory?

best regards
Steve
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