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Title: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 27, 2008, 03:11:37 am
laminated steel core.....i have gotten a qoute and it was far beyond my price range seeing that im only ordering one.....would anyone know where to get an electrical steel core?  i need this for the bifilar wound part of the vic....i am not making this all on one core i will be splitting it up into a toroid fed into a bifilar.....these are the last 2 things needed and my cell is complete....so your help is greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 27, 2008, 03:35:18 am
Magetite Cores
I know a guy in Canada who makes magnetite cores.  He says they are much better than the ferrite cores.  He makes them in any configuration you want.  I don't know his prices.  I can get you in touch with him if you like.

Ferrite Cores
I know another guy who has ferrite cores in Canada also.  He is Gary and his company is Chemelec.  He's a very nice guy and very helpful with our work.  He carries abou any electronic part you might need or want also.

Let me know if you want any more information and I'll provide it for you.
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 27, 2008, 03:42:44 am
If you shot us a drawing,
Or some dimensions.
And the composition  you are seeking.
I would be glad to help. ;D

Spike
 
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 27, 2008, 05:32:41 am
frysteel.com

these guy are pretty specialized , many dimensions
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 27, 2008, 06:46:15 am
alright im going for a 1 inch diameter electric steel core as stated in the patents.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/stanmeyercoilsjpg.jpg)

i remeber by his lectures when he said tht the more winds the higher the voltage since you are holding back more and more current....the more windings the more the bifilar coil will hold back amps.
so i think a bifilar coil of around 10 inches should suffice.....but i remeber in hte international report the bifilar wound inductor was no longer than 3 inches and quite chubby as if he just kept winding the windings on top of each other.....but would this mess up the magnetic field and it's properties for holding back current?  i am going to call frysteel tomorrow and see if i can get a quote.
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 27, 2008, 07:31:41 am
kinesisfilms

I was able to find this company that produces a variety of steel core.
I hope it helps ;D

Spike

http://www.jfe-steel.co.jp/en/products/electrical/supercore/uses.html
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 27, 2008, 22:03:02 pm
alright i just got a quote from frysteel for a 1 inch diamter of 4750ann electrical steel 10 inches long at approx. 2 lbs.  for around 130-140 dollars.....WOW...why is this so difficult to find things...

spike i looked into your website suggestion but it seems they don't offer cylindrical shaped cores.....any other websites?


THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH SO FAR!
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 27, 2008, 22:05:15 pm
Magetite Cores
I know a guy in Canada who makes magnetite cores.  He says they are much better than the ferrite cores.  He makes them in any configuration you want.  I don't know his prices.  I can get you in touch with him if you like.

Ferrite Cores
I know another guy who has ferrite cores in Canada also.  He is Gary and his company is Chemelec.  He's a very nice guy and very helpful with our work.  He carries abou any electronic part you might need or want also.

Let me know if you want any more information and I'll provide it for you.

Fiditti i am higlhy interested in the magnetic cores!

i would appreciate any contact information to obtain a steel magnetic core.
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 27, 2008, 23:18:52 pm
Magetite Cores
I know a guy in Canada who makes magnetite cores.  He says they are much better than the ferrite cores.  He makes them in any configuration you want.  I don't know his prices.  I can get you in touch with him if you like.

Ferrite Cores
I know another guy who has ferrite cores in Canada also.  He is Gary and his company is Chemelec.  He's a very nice guy and very helpful with our work.  He carries abou any electronic part you might need or want also.

Let me know if you want any more information and I'll provide it for you.

Fiditti i am higlhy interested in the magnetic cores!

i would appreciate any contact information to obtain a steel magnetic core.


Kenesisfilms,

Are welding rods a possibility for you?
Take some of those as core...

br
steve
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 28, 2008, 00:15:36 am
im coming to the conclusion that i should just use a simple inductor core instead of an electrical steel core.
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 28, 2008, 01:40:31 am
i would stick with what is in the papers 100% to avoid any possible quirks

meyers didnt just pick w/e left over electronics from salvaged stuff lol , the guy had a budget  , and he was nice enough to tell us what materials he used .
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 28, 2008, 03:02:46 am
but you also have to consider what he said in his lecture videos.....that he made different patents using differenet substances to stop people from trying to change it by 10 percent and claiming it for themselves...see a patent works like this someone patents an idea....well another person might see that idea and change it by 10 percent....then they can sell it without patent infringment....so stanley as he said in his lectures when someone at new zealand brought up why does it say steel in one patent when it says copper wire in another.....and he replied just so if someone tries to say "ha, look mine is different i use steel"......so he made multiple vic transformer combinations and different materials.....BUT THE CONCEPT DOES NOT CHANGE......soooooo.....i will create a bifilar coil because no matter whast type of inductance core it is it still acts like a bifilar coil.


plus notice his coil in the independant report.....it looks as if its wound on an  EI core to be honest.
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 28, 2008, 03:52:44 am
nah bs....he was far from protective of his inventions , he gives the most detail in his technical brief , he dont get into any type of construction in patents so for whetever reason he wrote that it has no relation , what we do have to consider is that he was a very religious man and got killed instead of being a rich billionaire .

the discription of frysteel says it all

"parralel grains for ease of magnetisation"

that means your  gonna waste less power , stan chose this for a reason
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 28, 2008, 03:57:47 am
of course it is the best way to do things, but sometimes we also don't ahve the money for the best things and have to get by on what we have......he also did state the minimum of what it would take to accomplish it....and copper and a ferrite core worked fine....just as the minimum amount of eclectricity to break down water was calculated to be 13 volts......although they managed to do it with 11....
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 28, 2008, 23:36:22 pm
alright i have just ordered a toroidal ferrite core from:

http://www.cwsbytemark.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=206_221 (http://www.cwsbytemark.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=206_221)

F-150-F....as stated in the patent a toroidal core of 1.5 inch diamter and .25 inch thickness.
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 29, 2008, 23:53:46 pm
well then , seems to me like you are trying the vic of figure 3-23 with bifilar copper coils , dont set your expectations since i already saw lots of people try that and got mediocre results at best with lots of different transfo/ratio bifilar lenghts w/e

just maybe YOU will jinx that setup
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 30, 2008, 03:23:08 am
no im actually building hte step up transformer with this toroid i bought.....then i am getting a core and bifilar winding it on a 1 inch diameter rod.... i am just going exactly what it says here....

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/stanmeyercoilsjpg.jpg)
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 06, 2008, 23:26:49 pm
i just recieved the toroidal core with the exact specifications as in the patent ^^^^ above image^^^...WOW i didn't realize it would be this tiny and now that i see the wire gauges i realize just how small this thing is.....100 turns of horribleness and 600 turns of hell....i need to find an automatic winder.
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 07, 2008, 05:39:51 am
i just recieved the toroidal core with the exact specifications as in the patent ^^^^ above image^^^...WOW i didn't realize it would be this tiny and now that i see the wire gauges i realize just how small this thing is.....100 turns of horribleness and 600 turns of hell....i need to find an automatic winder.

The primary is 200 turns, the choke is 100 turns, Formed on a 1 inch OD bar. The only time high voltage is read across the fuel cell is at the freq of water, however this has never been seen. I think stan was referring to the voltage before the choke and after the cell, there is HV there. EDIT, well let me just point this out, he was talking about before the choke and after the cell, read the first 10 pages of the tech brief, its in there somewhere!

It may be possible voltage will go up at the resonate freq of water, so find that Freq and see if the used parts is capable of hitting it. Hydrogen resonates in the microwave at 1.4 Ghz or 1420 Mhz, same thing, which is why i was looking into masers and lasers.

EDIT, stan also told you the freq he used if you read another page or to, i think it was like 10 Khz, but the chokes double the freq, so 20 Khz or something of that.


In the invention, the adjustable frequency generator (Figure 12) tunes into the resonant condition of the circuit including the water cell and the water therein. The generator has a frequency capability of 0-10 KHz in a typical 3.0 inch water capacitor formed of a 0.5 inch rod enclosed within a 0.75 inside diameter cylinder. At start up, in this example, current draw through the water cell will measure about 25 milliamp; however, when the circuit finds a tuned resonant condition, current drops to a 1-2 milliamp minimum leakage condition.

http://www.rexresearch.com/meyerhy/wo92.htm
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 07, 2008, 05:53:51 am
the resonant cavity, conversion of about 5 gallons of water per hour into a fuel gas will occur on average. To increase the rate, multiple resonant cavities can be used and/or the surfaces of the water capacitor can be increased, however, the water capacitor cell is preferably small in scale. A typical water capacitor may be formed from a 0.5 inch in diameter stainless steel rod and a 0.75 inch inside diameter cylinder that together extend concentrically about 3.0 inches with respect to each other.

Shape and size of the resonant cavity may vary. Larger resonant cavities and higher rates of consumption of water in the conversion process require higher frequencies such as up to 50 KHz and above. The pulsing rate, to sustain such high rates of conversion must be correspondingly increased.

From the foregoing description of the preferred embodiment, other variations and modifications of the system disclosed will be evident to those of skill in the art.


,,, now why didn't stan just run his car on 1 tube? any ideals? i think im being a little skeptic! Just to be clear you understand, that little vic will consume 1 gallon of water every 12 minutes! so, is this hodoo or what? Stan also said it took him like,, 32? gallons to make that trip was it? OH, and you needed a bigger unit if installed on a truck.

So if a cell that small can consume 5 gallons a hour, why did he use that BIG 9 tube cell when he only used 32 gallons of water to make that entire trip? Now im a little confused!

I'm also confused to why he claimed 4.44444 amps to each tube cell in his Test of evaulation on page 60. You know, the page that states a 1 liter cavity  where  1 psi of hydroxy is = to 1 liter of gas lol, therfor he produced 7 liters a min, i am also confused to how he kept water in his fuel cell at that rate, this would mean each of the 9 tube cells would have to be producing 777.7 cc's of gas in 1 min, 12.95 cc's in one second.

I've looked into the EPG, The more pressure your fuel cell is under, that means the more magnetic the gas is! If you place a Magnetic north and south POLE magnet on the OUTPUT of the fuel cell, "When you release the gas under pressure threw the magnet" ,,,,, "The gas becomes magnetized." The more pressure upon release the more magnetic the gas.  The gas is released in any normal None magnetic tube that loops, like a torroide, the more pressure the more magnetic the gas in this loop, to where it eventually goes back to the cell threw a " CHECK VALVE " OR Y"S out of the cell to a hydrogen Torch TIP. Lots of very fine copper wire was used to creat voltage and amps, depending on how you wanted to wire it depended on what you got, volts or amps, but not both.

Later the Hydrogen Gas Circulation "pump" was replaced with a ACCELERATOR pump, which was a coil. The check valve was still used which meant that Hydrogen Accelerator PUMP was strong enough to have a strong enough PUSH on that magnetic gas to force it threw the check valve upon reintering into the tank for recyleation. If the pressure within the loop was to great, Nitrogen was added to the mix!!!!!   

I speak about the EPG because it was on stans car, It confuses people, it looks seriouse! Now you know what the EPG does, so now when you look at the car and see a big tank on it you will have some sort of ideal to what it was used for, to generate electricity, not to run the car.

Does anyone have any ideals what is going on here?

Did you also miss the part where stan said he ran his car on the "BOILER PLATE CONFIGERATION", Where he said " ALL OF OUR FUEL CELLS OPERATE ON 180 DEGREE OUT OF PHASE. "

Job 42 5,6 and 7 http://basicenglishbible.com/job/42.htm
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 07, 2008, 07:54:50 am
Stan put many things in his patents, Whatever stan was doing to run that car, IF he was running it, its not in the patents. Did he run the car on water? i dont know. Did he start it on gas? Yes! watch the video on youtube if you dont believe me, The buggy video, hear him whisper? also at 3 minutes into the video he again repeats to stan when he bends down to look,, charlie says,, stan,,, there is no gas in there, we used it along time ago.

Something was going on, i always wondered how an air cooled engine produced heat in the winter. But that still doesn't answer everything. There are a few that thinks stan had extra hidden fuel cells, and there are those who thinks he was stretching the gas with some sorta atomic maser laser knowledge.

The way i see it, with stevies new fuel cell, if stans information doesn't get leaked soon, he will be history if stevies measurements are right, and i wouldn't be suprised if this website was shut down due to stevies amazing measurements. Lets see what happens from here..

I think stevie deserves a really really big pat on the back! His device will help this technology more than any device i've seen, i would be supprized if nasa dont pick up on this and start using it. You dont suppost to produce that amount of gas with 700 watts, Include your power loss, your source wattage and go from there. see what that brings us. I do understand that groups have been working on drycells for a very long time, but i think stevo has something "different," his doesn't use additives and produces a large amount of gas, for that the setup is special. But alot is to be credited here. But additives is besides our point. it took all to figure it out, and one to make it work without additives! Now thats by no way an easy or cheap task to tackle. So now you can stop wasting your money on what does not work, and get what you know works. Thank you for figuring this out for me as i know my next cell want be a wast of money. ;)

kinesisfilms, sorry for taking over your post while i vented, i do not know why dankie tried to stir you away from your device, very odd as i don't think he understands much about this technology. Anyways if you want to look into splitting water using the vic, or resonate Freq i would admire that! I may also continue on looking to split water with the resonate freq as well ;) I just do not feel as if this is what stan was doing based on all the red handed facts i've seen here an there over a very long time period. In no way am i bashing you or this thread. I just had to get that out in the open somehow someway and it just happend to fit right in this topic. Stan says one thing somewhere, then another somewhere else, man i just had to point this out. What are you suppost to believe? Maybe he did run it on water and this was his way of protecting his work? maybe he was a fraud. "We will never know!!!!!!!!" unless someone from the inside tells us!

with that said, if you was to find the real amazing resonate freq of water, based on what you've learned, and you did this using your understandings and you acomplished it. would you give the credit to stan? with out a doubt in your mind, would you say , YES stan cracked water using the resonate freq of water and voltage potential? If you was to prove this method to work, then does this mean stan was right, he really did bust water using the resonate freq? If you become obsessed and you do get this working, who did it? I do think this can cause you to find out how to really do this, and if it turns out that you do get this working, and you go back and do it with the freq stan said he used, then yay. but what if you get so smart you see that there is no freeking way he did it with that freq, would you then say stan made a typo, or maybe say he may have said the wrong freq to protect his work? 

how is 1 to know anything. This is a scrood up technology lol, i better stop here.
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 07, 2008, 23:47:52 pm
sorry i meant to type 200 turns on the primary just a typo.....and as for the bible qoutes i don't know why you would bring those up those aren't anywhere related to anything.....if your trying to relate it to stans logo than this is the correct verse....a
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3180/2677372505_cc514a6a8c.jpg)
s for all your beliefs on what is truely going on believe what you want but im listening to alot of what stephen meyers has said about his brothers technology.....and now stephen is smarter much smarter than stan is....and for even stephen to say that his brothers technology was real and working means alot....we will just have to wait and see.....i have to build this then i will wind the bifilar coil...and im done.
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 08, 2008, 01:23:01 am
sorry i meant to type 200 turns on the primary just a typo.....and as for the bible qoutes i don't know why you would bring those up those aren't anywhere related to anything.....if your trying to relate it to stans logo than this is the correct verse....a
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3180/2677372505_cc514a6a8c.jpg)
s for all your beliefs on what is truely going on believe what you want but im listening to alot of what stephen meyers has said about his brothers technology.....and now stephen is smarter much smarter than stan is....and for even stephen to say that his brothers technology was real and working means alot....we will just have to wait and see.....i have to build this then i will wind the bifilar coil...and im done.

Nothing to do with stans logo, i guess you have to read the entire chapter to understand what i was trying to say ;) ,Eliphaz did wrong, even though he was taking gods side he was still punished for what he said to job about god which was not true about god. Eliphaz was young and claimed that some one skilled in the art doesn't have more wisdom than the young that sit back and watched which was not skilled in the art.  Eliphaz felt as if he had wisdom, but job had more knowledge, where job spoke only the truth about god.

Job was angry with god, he demanded god come talk with him so he could confront him, job wanted to know why his life was cursed as he was an upright man, why the sinners got rewarded. What job spoken was the truth about god, gods cruel ways, rewarding the sinners the way he did, making sport of the upright.

Job just got fed up with god, this is when Eliphaz steped in to back god up as job was not talking very kindly about god. For the lack of wisdon Eliphaz had about god he could not understand what job was saying, he did not live what job lived, therefor he did not see what job seen in god.

Job told god like it was, he spoke the truth. For that he was rewarded with 2 times as much than he ever had, and his disease was lifted away. He died a happy life. Eliphaz which supported god supported him without knowledge, for that he was punished.







Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 08, 2008, 02:21:32 am
now this is my last question regarding the creation of this transformer......i would just take a wire and wind the toroid.......now would the beginning of the the wire for the primary connect to the positive of the pwm and the end of the primary wire connect to the negative pwm connection, or vice versa depending on the clock or counter clockwise wire wrapping???.......this is an important brain barricade for me to overcome, thank you.
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 08, 2008, 04:21:02 am
Since your using half phase and not single phase it does not matter how you hook the primary, however it does matter which side you put the diode on.

For example, if you pulse high then stop, the diode will pass current on the primary pulse off time.

For example, if you pulse high then stop, the diode will not pass current on the pulse off time, because it passed it on the pulse on time.

The above depends on what side of the secondary you have your diode on, and which way it is blocking.
Do you want the diode to kick on during the Pulsing on time or  pulse off time? One way is better than the other since a collapsing field can kick the diode on. 

Myself, i just grab some measuring tools to determine which way is best.
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 08, 2008, 06:23:55 am
one more thing...i have been looking at this tiny opening of a hole in the center of this toroidal core and i am pretty sure i would not be able to fit 200 turns and 600 turns of wire through it at all......so can i use bare copper wire instead of insulated?
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 08, 2008, 07:30:14 am
i do not understand your post, are you making jokes?

it will all fit just like stan said, only if you use the core he said to use. Smaller cores can be overlapped.

Take you a computer power supply and get the core from it, wrap it on it as it will not all fit. It will be very close, you can get 200 and 600 on these cores if you overlap. No you cant use uncoated wire.
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 08, 2008, 08:03:44 am
if you saw how small this core was.....with a 1.5 inch diameter.....and you have 24 gauge insulated copper wire...you would then realize that after 200 turns fitting another 600 turns of 36 gauge insulated might be incredibly impossible.

i have 2 of the things sitting in front of me.....and it seems as if this will be a task even a machine would find difficulty.....do you have this sitting in front of you?...im looking at it now and i can tell. no jokes. i may have never built a transformer before but i know a sqaure shaped object will not fit in a triangle shaped hole so to speak....i am obviously going to try anyways, but seeing that this is my first time building something like this and i will not have the access to a machine bare with me.....would you happen to have built this already?
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 08, 2008, 08:35:32 am
It's not impossible nor hard at all, actually its very simple to do and will only require about 2 hours on the secondary if your good.

Here is a 1.25 inch core with about 586 wraps.
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 08, 2008, 08:56:49 am
are you using enameled copper coated wire?....now i whipped out a quarter and as i can see my opening is smaller then yours plus your seems to be a tad bit higher....stan didn't give 3 dimensions only 2 so i'm not sure how hiehgt affects this.......have you tested the output of your transformer? i'm very interested to see what its voltage ouput is with these specifications.....thank you.
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 14, 2008, 09:18:26 am
Kines, this is the cell i am working on right now only using the the vic much like your doing, this time i will be using 10 kilo hertz... 

I have the top and bottom of this mini cell ordered, they should be getting here soon.
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 14, 2008, 13:49:00 pm
Hydrocars,

Great to see you posting again.  Sweet looking cell also.  Very professional looking indeed.
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 15, 2008, 04:48:05 am
Does anyone happen to know where i can get some 1 inch in diameter bare chokes????

those are hard for me to find, also a good replacement diode for the one stan used, thanks.
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 15, 2008, 06:46:20 am
Does anyone happen to know where i can get some 1 inch in diameter bare chokes????

those are hard for me to find, also a good replacement diode for the one stan used, thanks.


if you mean 1 inch diameter core....i found a place that makes electrical steel cores but it was 180 to have it machined for a 1 inch diameter...10 inches long.....i chose 10 inches since the longer the bifilar coil the more it will hold back current...so nothing to really lose....ad most people wind their bifilars wrong in some cases in a caduceus manner.



BUT AS FOR TONIGHT i have finished the primary winding as according to the patent and now tomorrow i am going to start the monstrous 600 winds....now does the orientation of the windings matter from the primary to the secondary?...should they be wound in the same direction?...or does it have to oppose each other in order to produce an effect???
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 15, 2008, 13:30:35 pm
It does not matter, all though there is some real fruit loops out there that say it does.

I would not go over 100 wraps on a 1 inch choke, why didn't you wrap the secondary first like in the photo?
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 15, 2008, 18:30:04 pm
i read on a few websites that your supposed to wrap hte primary first then hte secondary on top of the primary.....

http://members.aol.com/alansharp03/xformer.htm (http://members.aol.com/alansharp03/xformer.htm)
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 15, 2008, 22:31:34 pm
alright so the direction does matter....they have to be the same.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/coilorientation.jpg)


http://www.sayedsaad.com/fundmental/20_SYMBOLS%20FOR%20TRANSFORMERS.htm (http://www.sayedsaad.com/fundmental/20_SYMBOLS%20FOR%20TRANSFORMERS.htm)
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 16, 2008, 12:38:37 pm
i read on a few websites that your supposed to wrap hte primary first then hte secondary on top of the primary.....

http://members.aol.com/alansharp03/xformer.htm (http://members.aol.com/alansharp03/xformer.htm)

no comment, whatever cranks your tractor, however i like for my secondary to be neat and close to the magnetic core! not to mention is much easier to wrap, and count the wraps.
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 17, 2008, 07:19:06 am
yay!! so here is the break down.....i first hooked up two probes to my analog oscope....one to the pwm output and on to the toroidal transformers output.....wave form is not distorted and is amplified in voltage....(50% duty cycle...i think that is with my mark-sapce turned all the way down hence a 1:1 ratio 50% )6 volts in 12 volts out (as explained here http://www.eleinmec.com/article.asp?28 (http://www.eleinmec.com/article.asp?28)).....i looked up the math and from the patents meyers vic transformer will only put out around volts 12-15 volts from the 12 volt 50% duty cylce which becomes 6 volts in side........my primary covers the core completely, while my secondary covers only 3/4ths...and at a certain frequency range the toroid will sing......so all in all it works and the primary is completely isolated from the secondary which is the main concept of this transformer.....no electrical leakage will occur when step charging the capcitor.....off to the last piece the bifilar coil!!!


i'm honestly happy that the first transformer i build actually works....i didn't want to sit here for and hour winding 600 turns for nothing....im not a complete idiot after all.
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 17, 2008, 10:25:21 am
hehe, we would love to see your coil, even if it isn't so perty!

Great job man!
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 17, 2008, 14:09:55 pm
Great job.  I'd love to see pics of your setup also.
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 17, 2008, 22:37:14 pm
alright i have to keep taking this with my laptops webcam....i don't ahve a digital camera....only medium format cameras!!.....so this is the transformer....if your wondering what the horrible plastic mess is it's my masking tape insulation.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/kinesisfilms/Photo7.jpg)

i will post photos of my entire setup when the bifilar coil is done.....i can post oscope images of the transformer but not until my roomate gets his cf card read working...so i can use his digital.
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 17, 2008, 23:01:53 pm
Very good job indeed.  It's very functional and not at all ugly.  That type of tape may give you some trouble.  You might want to use the special tape Bob Boyce recommends the next go around.  Great Job!!  Thanks for sharing the pic.

If you like, I'll try to run down the tape information for you.
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 25, 2008, 21:00:40 pm
alright so.....here is the core i am going to buy...1 inch in diameter is pretty hard to find.

http://www.stormwise.com/page26.htm (http://www.stormwise.com/page26.htm)

a pricey 91 dollars for a 1 inch diameter and 10 inches long.....i am making this real long becuase of what stan has said in his lectures.
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 25, 2008, 22:05:42 pm
sooo here is another site with the largest diameter being .5 inches.

https://www.amidoncorp.com/items/10 (https://www.amidoncorp.com/items/10)

nvm i just realized that it has to be material 77.
so rods like this
https://www.amidoncorp.com/items/12 (https://www.amidoncorp.com/items/12)

once again....nvm....just type in ferrite rod on ebay.
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 26, 2008, 02:49:37 am
kinesisfilms,

Thanks for sharing this information.
 
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 27, 2008, 00:27:47 am
alright so i got my pulsing dc and it is sent into the transformer at around 5 volts.....since my dc source is 12 votls and half on half off equals 6.......then it gets shot out the other end at a little less than 50 votls.....but at the frequency im using and the transformer im using it pulls around 1.35 amps naturally......i can't wait to get the bifilar core becuase i tried to do it with a gaint bolt and it wasn't a go.....too anxious...almost there and then step charging begins.
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 27, 2008, 02:14:02 am
kinesisfilms,

I can't wait to see how it goes for you.
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 30, 2008, 03:01:50 am
alright so i know in his patent it says that for the bifilar coil you need an inductance rod of 1 inch in diamter.....i couldn;t find it for cheap but i did just buy 8 rods measuring 8 inches long and .4 inches in diamter.....so i know this will be fine....and i am going to wrap the entire rod just as stan has stated multiple times.....if you want to increase gas flow...don't just increaase the voltage input at the power source.....but just increase the windings on hte bifilar coil.....so remeber the voltage will reach towards infinity if the electronics allow it.....and by adding more windings the electronics are allowing it to get closer....i also have 2 different transformers....the one in the patent...which i realize was intened for bare minimum for it to work.....and it does completely work.....but i went out nad got another transformer for 10 dollars.....i noticed in one of his lectures he said...."the beautiful thing of it is is since the frequency is in the audible range you can use an audio transformer."......now when i see people pulsing power transformers i don't know why they would ever do that.....those are intended for around 60hz  not kilohertz.....you will get that transformer to backfire nad destroy your pwm.....so MAKE SURE YOU GET AN AUDIO TRANSFORMER.....and am using a simple audio transformer used in reverse.....so my input is 6 volts and it is stepped up over 50 volts.....pics will be posted of the transformers schematic...if you want......
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 30, 2008, 04:02:31 am
kinesisfilms,

Thanks for sharing about this.  Much appreciated!!  I'd also like to see your pics too.   
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 30, 2008, 09:01:14 am
here is the exact diode used in stanley meyers fuel cell setup.

https://www.alliedelec.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?SKU=9356296&MPN=NTE5994&R=9356296&SEARCH=9356296&DESC=NTE5994 (https://www.alliedelec.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?SKU=9356296&MPN=NTE5994&R=9356296&SEARCH=9356296&DESC=NTE5994)
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 30, 2008, 22:29:30 pm
here is a good run down for anyone interested in looking for the required diode.

http://oemstrade.com/search/1N1198 (http://oemstrade.com/search/1N1198)

a good list of places selling this diode.
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on October 08, 2008, 09:24:44 am
im pretty sure today is the day.....the mail will be here around 8 hours from now.......i will wind my bifilar coil......and it will be hooked up......im nervous......everything is identical to meyers....and so far everything matches up perfectly.
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on October 09, 2008, 22:20:16 pm
crap well its been 6 days and as i look over to see where the seller was from i noticed he is located in LITHUANIA! so who knows how long it will take to get here seeing that U.S. customs takes foreverrrrrr.......argh......too anxious.....i guess i will hook up some kiker wires to my car and install the fuel preheater for now......and maybe i can find a way to put my homemade efie in there.....i don't know how to attach it to my O2 sensor.

But for anyone looking to buy cores for the bifilar coil definately go on ebay and type in ferrite rods.....there is a guy who sells them.....remeber the more windings the bifilar coil has the higher the gas output will be.......as meyer has stated.
Title: Re: where to buy
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 20, 2011, 23:04:08 pm
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