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Stanley Meyer => Stanley Meyer => Topic started by: Radiant_1 on June 19, 2023, 01:59:43 am
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I've spent a great amount of time analyzing patents, reading theories, and creating my own experiments over the better part of a decade...I'm at the point I believe I can adequately put it all together, I will start this thread to lay out the premise, and document results. (Most of my equipment/experiments were stolen from me in 2010, I am essentially starting over...only archive that really remains is the few videos left on my youtube channel @Zer0pointunlimited )....
Stan created, and patented several iterations of his devices...it is my belief now, that Stan, like so many others, intentionally confused and misled people for a couple of reasons. First, his most complicated device, "The Water Fuel Cell" is a culmination of multiple principles already in public domain at the time he released it. Those being, observations of bipolar dynamics of water and high voltage accumulation of charge pioneered by Lord Kelvin (think of the famous Thunder Storm experiment ran in reverse), phenomena discovered by Nikola Tesla in his Utilization of Radiant Energy patent regarding photons impinged on a capacitor plate through a transparent insulator (Stan's gas processor) and observations Tesla made on the discharge of a condensers(capacitors) into inductors, and lastly, the phenomena of nascent, aka mono-atomic, aka "Atomic" hydrogen, explored by Langmuir.
The hang-up most people quickly come to, that stops them dead in their tracks is such....Everyone is operating under the premise that you need to make enough hydrogen on demand to run an internal combustion engine in it's normal mode of operation. By that, I mean a direct replacement of gasoline....that is NOT the case, and has NEVER been. While technically possible, the size of the machine to do so would be impractically large to make it viable in a mobile setting. Even Stan's initial, and most complicated device, The Water Fuel Cell did not do this...and neither did his revised and much simpler injector plugs.
The Water Fuel Cell technology is the most complicated form of the technology and really only desirable for industrial applications where stored hydrogen is needed, and/or the creation of novel magnetized/ionized gasses is desired (more so the Gas Processor)...but I will break-down it's fundamental operation none-the less.
It all comes down to this, "Voltage can do work"...Stan's system essentially turned an electrolysis setup into a capacitor with water as part of the insulator, it uses the fact that water is an insulator, or DI-electric in it's pure form, which means it has equal and oppositely charged atoms making up it's molecule (high dielectric strength), and therefore resists the flow of electrons. The only catch is that water has a low dielectric constant due to the self ionization of water (quantum dynamic of hydrogen ions being delocalized, same phenomena of the "electron cloud" and their location being non-determinate until the very moment of observation...see Quantum "Double slit experiment"). So, just trying to step-charge the Water Fuel Cell with water as dielectric alone, doesn't have very good results as a capacitor. Stan's patents says he overcame this with a custom made stack of alternating carbon/stainless steel resistor. I hypothesized insulating one of the electrodes, which J.L. Naudin did per my recommendations here in 2008, http://jnaudin.free.fr/wfc/index.htm
The results showed true capacitor action with clear as day step charging, and all the scope shots looked absolutely identical to waveforms in Stan's Patent. Naudin was not impressed with the results, noting only small bubbles and low production (he never went on to produce version 2)...instead Naudin went on to pursue new iterations of circuitry four years later with a pancake coil, and the use of purified water. But never came back to a single insulated electrode.
This brings me to the next requirement that MUST be accomplished to do what Stan was actually doing in the Water Fuel Cell....an ELECTRON EXTRACTION CIRCUIT MUST BE IMPLEMENTED, which I have never seen in any redevelopment....the pure capacitor result MUST stretch the water molecule due to polarization, this is not debatable and well established, and that will %100 reduce the strength of the covalent bonding of water and in fact break the bond (but without a place to go, will recombine due to nondeterministic quantum nature of electrons). This is described in Stan's patents, he shows a resonant high voltage waveform, with periodic off time....this off time is called a "gating" signal. The gating signal does two things, shuts off the input pulse, and simultaneously turns on an electrically separate "electron extraction" circuit...remember, there is covalent bond breaking due to the stresses of polarization in the voltage zone of the Water Fuel Cell, BUT....due to the "delocalized" quantum nature of electrons, as soon as the water leaves the voltage zone, or the voltage is turned off, the molecule starts to relax, and electrons redistribute to their normal probabilistic distribution. The Electron Extraction Circuit turning on from the gate pulse, as the resonant step-charge pulse is turned off, overlays a different potential path to strip the electrons during their momentarily stretched and weakened/broken covalent bond state. The light emitting diodes that make up the resistive load of the Electron Extraction Circuit act as a detector and "observe" the electron's position, making the otherwise indeterminate location of the electron, determinate....electron pulled out of water via VOLTAGE, the opposite/inverse of electrons being dislodged by current pushed into the water molecule....the establishment pushing for investors to sue Stan for fraud shortly before his death, was simply because they couldn't tell the difference and only saw electron flow...and he refused to explain the technique in a method people could grasp.
Now, even as Mythbusters showed in their attempt to debunk the movement, using Hydrogen as a direct method of replacing gasoline is not viable...enter Stan's "Gas Processor"...and the creation of "Atomic Hydrogen".
As I said above, a device that operates in the manner just described to produce enough gas to run a internal combustion engine in normal operation is prohibitive to mobile use, due to the surface area/size of such a device. Instead Stan utilized the further energy release that was described by Langmuir's Atomic Hydrogen observations. Difference being, Stan utilized more efficient methods, namely, another voltage zone, an orthogonal magnetic field, the released photons from the Electron Extraction Circuit, and another Electron Extraction Circuit to snap the Hydrogen molecules into singular Hydrogen atoms. This allows the under-powered molecular hydrogen to release atomic hydrogen's impressive (and anomalous) thermal heat and expand the size of the other incombustible gasses in the cylinder to drive the cylinder.
Lastly, the culmination of this technology into a small device the size of a spark plug.....
In Stan's final device, he figured how to get everything to happen at once, in the Water Fuel Plug...it is deceptively simple.
It starts with an efficient means to turn water to steam, he used two identical, non grounded transformers, with their secondaries attaching to overlapping voltage zones to limit current flow, and increase the vibrational excitation of water into steam, then he ionized the entire air intake of the motor, producing large amounts of ozone being loaded into the cylinders, lastly he fed the steam, and some ozone into the voltage zone of the of the plug and hit it with a high voltage, high current blast. The blast dissociated the water molecule into hydrogen/oxygen and the ozone then rips the free electrons away (making atomic hydrogen), and the massive amount of intake ozone somehow prevents the Atomic Hydrogen from re-associating to molecular hydrogen (reverse mechanism of chlorine depletion of Ozone layer?? I'm not sure, haven't analyzed this effect yet)...Creating Stan's "Atomic Nuclei Decay" of Hydrogen, that he said continues in the cylinder until the products are vented in the exhaust phase, and the Hydrogen can grab free electrons from the air/sun....
This is the easiest form of the technology, all it requires is an efficient resonant charging circuit to be able to charge a sufficiently large electrolytic capacitor on demand, then dump the capacitor into a autotransformer with sufficient inductance/mutual inductance, then an intelligent utilization of positive feedback loop(s) (diode) to re-route self-induction and mutual induction to work with the application of the forward discharge pulse, in effect, exponentially accelerating the the change in work and the change in time (Delta Work/Delta Time=Power), producing an exponential rise in energy provided by the speed in which the magnetic field can be created, and also the time in which the Aether can collapse the magnetic field and send the energy forward. Basically it makes self/mutual induction work with, instead of opposed to the application of current/growth of magnetic field, and subsequently the collapse of field/discharge of current as well.
Attached is a simple circuit I made to disprove an erroneous theory of operation MANY years ago (my explanation was oversimplified then, but ultimately correct), it is deceptively simple, but very powerful...increase the input voltage and change the neon to a spark plug of own design....be wary of those who claim to know the "secret" and mystify it...they are either charlatans only interested in exploiting you, or intentionally trying to confuse the truth. The only arguable thing here, is that Aether is the mechanism of magnetic collapse, but the current state of Quantum dynamics is on that verge now, it's about to be accepted as the current model of Quantum Mechanics.
P.S. One more reverse biased diode across the primary would make it even better, re-routing/realigning primary self-inductance, and flyback spike (I made the diagram 14 y/o, captured from energeticforum archives)
My next post will expound on this coil's operation to give everyone an easily understood basis to get you doing amazing things with it (be careful, it has potential to emit high energy radiation...ie, "soft x-rays")...it is a common thread to many OU technologies. "Splitting the Positive"...Gray, Puriarch, Stan, etc....
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I’m very interested in your theory! And I agree the system would better fit industrial appliances however I calculated recently that if the water can indeed generate electricity it would be possible to have a car runing with only hydrogen with the expense of at least one third of its output power…
I came up with some calculations using chat gpt that the cavity can be used in a sort of generator mode if hiring at its antiresonant point and provided some geometric forms fields are present so that water will resonant with its sound proprieties causing displacement of the charges in reference to the field generating a voltage that must be consumed in order to generate the gas… feeding back this energy is what make it possible to become overunity since the energy is coming out at same time as hydrogen is generated so it may basically convert kinetic energy into electrically but as the hydrogen is generated backwards as long as the electricity it would suppose to consume there is no voltage drop so basically electric input is not consumed directly… only at diodes and resistances and of course the displacement of water that also may cause heat. Since the generation of hydrogen is endothermic this heat may be absorbed causing the so called cooling effect while operating the cell…
I calculated that and is all well explained in my thread so I hope you can later check to that and tell your point view on that
Basically my understanding is that after creating hydrogen in an effective manner it can be simply used as it is since it can create a cop of at least 9 theoretically or higher so actually an electric vehicle would be better use of it than a combustion engine
Now if later we can ionize and provide more bang to the buck is a second question to answer. I think may be addressed in the same manner of the first…
One thing that come to my mind is making coils big like
8 inch long 2 inch square thick and revisit Meyer theory of amp restriction but having high power applied to that
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Very interesting, such a thing may very well be possible. If you kinetically resonate it with enough amplitude, the molecule would shake apart, I will take some time to look into it more.
Stan's WFC with the electron extraction circuit (the demo model did not have an EEC), moved electrons out of water without pushing others in, so that along with H2 and O2 dissociation gave the cooling effect. If your AI assisted method works, it would be interesting to see if the resonance imparts heat via collision.
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I've spent a great amount of time analyzing patents, reading theories, and creating my own experiments over the better part of a decade...I'm at the point I believe I can adequately put it all together, I will start this thread to lay out the premise, and document results. (Most of my equipment/experiments were stolen from me in 2010, I am essentially starting over...only archive that really remains is the few videos left on my youtube channel @Zer0pointunlimited )....
Stan created, and patented several iterations of his devices...it is my belief now, that Stan, like so many others, intentionally confused and misled people for a couple of reasons. First, his most complicated device, "The Water Fuel Cell" is a culmination of multiple principles already in public domain at the time he released it. Those being, observations of bipolar dynamics of water and high voltage accumulation of charge pioneered by Lord Kelvin (think of the famous Thunder Storm experiment ran in reverse), phenomena discovered by Nikola Tesla in his Utilization of Radiant Energy patent regarding photons impinged on a capacitor plate through a transparent insulator (Stan's gas processor) and observations Tesla made on the discharge of a condensers(capacitors) into inductors, and lastly, the phenomena of nascent, aka mono-atomic, aka "Atomic" hydrogen, explored by Langmuir.
The hang-up most people quickly come to, that stops them dead in their tracks is such....Everyone is operating under the premise that you need to make enough hydrogen on demand to run an internal combustion engine in it's normal mode of operation. By that, I mean a direct replacement of gasoline....that is NOT the case, and has NEVER been. While technically possible, the size of the machine to do so would be impractically large to make it viable in a mobile setting. Even Stan's initial, and most complicated device, The Water Fuel Cell did not do this...and neither did his revised and much simpler injector plugs.
The Water Fuel Cell technology is the most complicated form of the technology and really only desirable for industrial applications where stored hydrogen is needed, and/or the creation of novel magnetized/ionized gasses is desired (more so the Gas Processor)...but I will break-down it's fundamental operation none-the less.
It all comes down to this, "Voltage can do work"...Stan's system essentially turned an electrolysis setup into a capacitor with water as part of the insulator, it uses the fact that water is an insulator, or DI-electric in it's pure form, which means it has equal and oppositely charged atoms making up it's molecule (high dielectric strength), and therefore resists the flow of electrons. The only catch is that water has a low dielectric constant due to the self ionization of water (quantum dynamic of hydrogen ions being delocalized, same phenomena of the "electron cloud" and their location being non-determinate until the very moment of observation...see Quantum "Double slit experiment"). So, just trying to step-charge the Water Fuel Cell with water as dielectric alone, doesn't have very good results as a capacitor. Stan's patents says he overcame this with a custom made stack of alternating carbon/stainless steel resistor. I hypothesized insulating one of the electrodes, which J.L. Naudin did per my recommendations here in 2008, http://jnaudin.free.fr/wfc/index.htm
The results showed true capacitor action with clear as day step charging, and all the scope shots looked absolutely identical to waveforms in Stan's Patent. Naudin was not impressed with the results, noting only small bubbles and low production (he never went on to produce version 2)...instead Naudin went on to pursue new iterations of circuitry four years later with a pancake coil, and the use of purified water. But never came back to a single insulated electrode.
This brings me to the next requirement that MUST be accomplished to do what Stan was actually doing in the Water Fuel Cell....an ELECTRON EXTRACTION CIRCUIT MUST BE IMPLEMENTED, which I have never seen in any redevelopment....the pure capacitor result MUST stretch the water molecule due to polarization, this is not debatable and well established, and that will %100 reduce the strength of the covalent bonding of water and in fact break the bond (but without a place to go, will recombine due to nondeterministic quantum nature of electrons). This is described in Stan's patents, he shows a resonant high voltage waveform, with periodic off time....this off time is called a "gating" signal. The gating signal does two things, shuts off the input pulse, and simultaneously turns on an electrically separate "electron extraction" circuit...remember, there is covalent bond breaking due to the stresses of polarization in the voltage zone of the Water Fuel Cell, BUT....due to the "delocalized" quantum nature of electrons, as soon as the water leaves the voltage zone, or the voltage is turned off, the molecule starts to relax, and electrons redistribute to their normal probabilistic distribution. The Electron Extraction Circuit turning on from the gate pulse, as the resonant step-charge pulse is turned off, overlays a different potential path to strip the electrons during their momentarily stretched and weakened/broken covalent bond state. The light emitting diodes that make up the resistive load of the Electron Extraction Circuit act as a detector and "observe" the electron's position, making the otherwise indeterminate location of the electron, determinate....electron pulled out of water via VOLTAGE, the opposite/inverse of electrons being dislodged by current pushed into the water molecule....the establishment pushing for investors to sue Stan for fraud shortly before his death, was simply because they couldn't tell the difference and only saw electron flow...and he refused to explain the technique in a method people could grasp.
Now, even as Mythbusters showed in their attempt to debunk the movement, using Hydrogen as a direct method of replacing gasoline is not viable...enter Stan's "Gas Processor"...and the creation of "Atomic Hydrogen".
As I said above, a device that operates in the manner just described to produce enough gas to run a internal combustion engine in normal operation is prohibitive to mobile use, due to the surface area/size of such a device. Instead Stan utilized the further energy release that was described by Langmuir's Atomic Hydrogen observations. Difference being, Stan utilized more efficient methods, namely, another voltage zone, an orthogonal magnetic field, the released photons from the Electron Extraction Circuit, and another Electron Extraction Circuit to snap the Hydrogen molecules into singular Hydrogen atoms. This allows the under-powered molecular hydrogen to release atomic hydrogen's impressive (and anomalous) thermal heat and expand the size of the other incombustible gasses in the cylinder to drive the cylinder.
Lastly, the culmination of this technology into a small device the size of a spark plug.....
In Stan's final device, he figured how to get everything to happen at once, in the Water Fuel Plug...it is deceptively simple.
It starts with an efficient means to turn water to steam, he used two identical, non grounded transformers, with their secondaries attaching to overlapping voltage zones to limit current flow, and increase the vibrational excitation of water into steam, then he ionized the entire air intake of the motor, producing large amounts of ozone being loaded into the cylinders, lastly he fed the steam, and some ozone into the voltage zone of the of the plug and hit it with a high voltage, high current blast. The blast dissociated the water molecule into hydrogen/oxygen and the ozone then rips the free electrons away (making atomic hydrogen), and the massive amount of intake ozone somehow prevents the Atomic Hydrogen from re-associating to molecular hydrogen (reverse mechanism of chlorine depletion of Ozone layer?? I'm not sure, haven't analyzed this effect yet)...Creating Stan's "Atomic Nuclei Decay" of Hydrogen, that he said continues in the cylinder until the products are vented in the exhaust phase, and the Hydrogen can grab free electrons from the air/sun....
This is the easiest form of the technology, all it requires is an efficient resonant charging circuit to be able to charge a sufficiently large electrolytic capacitor on demand, then dump the capacitor into a autotransformer with sufficient inductance/mutual inductance, then an intelligent utilization of positive feedback loop(s) (diode) to re-route self-induction and mutual induction to work with the application of the forward discharge pulse, in effect, exponentially accelerating the the change in work and the change in time (Delta Work/Delta Time=Power), producing an exponential rise in energy provided by the speed in which the magnetic field can be created, and also the time in which the Aether can collapse the magnetic field and send the energy forward. Basically it makes self/mutual induction work with, instead of opposed to the application of current/growth of magnetic field, and subsequently the collapse of field/discharge of current as well.
Attached is a simple circuit I made to disprove an erroneous theory of operation MANY years ago (my explanation was oversimplified then, but ultimately correct), it is deceptively simple, but very powerful...increase the input voltage and change the neon to a spark plug of own design....be wary of those who claim to know the "secret" and mystify it...they are either charlatans only interested in exploiting you, or intentionally trying to confuse the truth. The only arguable thing here, is that Aether is the mechanism of magnetic collapse, but the current state of Quantum dynamics is on that verge now, it's about to be accepted as the current model of Quantum Mechanics.
P.S. One more reverse biased diode across the primary would make it even better, re-routing/realigning primary self-inductance, and flyback spike (I made the diagram 14 y/o, captured from energeticforum archives)
My next post will expound on this coil's operation to give everyone an easily understood basis to get you doing amazing things with it (be careful, it has potential to emit high energy radiation...ie, "soft x-rays")...it is a common thread to many OU technologies. "Splitting the Positive"...Gray, Puriarch, Stan, etc....
Nice and well written Radiant!
I also believe in the EEC.
Looking forward to your next explanation :)
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Expanding on the importance of self/mutual inductance and how to manipulate it.
Making self/mutual-inductance work in phase with applied primary current, accelerating the change in work, and compressing the time scale, amplifying total power delivered (step-up transformer)
Take for instance again the attached simple circuit. I have no video at the moment, but, if you build it, you will see. Without the diode from the LV+ to HV lead, you will see both electrodes light up, with the bottom neon electrode being brighter. If you add the diode string, you will see only the bottom electrode light up MUCH brighter.
Without the diodes, the forward current of the primary, through mutual-induction creates a reversed flow in the secondary, and the the HV lead is HV- on forward induction and the top neon terminal lights up (current flows from + towards -, the HV- lights up because Voltage flows - towards + ), then the current stops flowing, and the magnetic field collapses much faster than the forward field grew, ("flyback always collapses faster), this collapse reverses the voltages, and the change in work happening over a shorter time increases voltage (Delta Work/Delta Time) making the bottom neon electrode glow brighter.
Now adding the diode...
Normally, as the primary current flows, the mutual-induced current in the secondary opposes the current flow in the primary and creates an opposing reversed magnetic field that fights the magnetic field being created in the primary, by adding the diode string with negative polarity facing the HV lead....this reversed mutual-induced HV- current shorts out through the diodes, as such the opposing induced current in the secondary is allowed to flow out of the secondary, this also removes the opposing induced magnetic field in the Flux core. So this first step, neutralizes the opposition of mutual-inductance.
At the exact same time, the rerouting of this current out of the inductor of the secondary, creates its own reversed self/mutual inductance in opposition to itself, into the secondary, along with a magnetic field also opposed to itself, this self/mutual inductance of a self/mutual induced current is now IN PHASE WITH the primary current/magnetic field (opposite of an opposition), and pulls the primary magnetic field into the core faster, and in turn, pulls the current in faster, which in turns increases the induced current/field speed, etc, etc....in essence, it creates a positve feedback loop, exponentially accelerating the speed which current/voltage is distrubuted across both primary and secondary coils (both coils are energized).
Once the capacitor/pulse is empty/off, the voltage across the primary reverses (see RLC circuits) matching secondary polarity (there is also a possibility the primary current(s) are pulled into the feedback loop as the HV- potential rises, as they would be HV+ biased regardless of their LV bias).
The diode shuts off, and the magnetic field starts to collapse, being as there is no opposed current/field in the coils, or in the iron core, the "Flyback" occurs faster than normal, and the voltage flips and increases many factors higher, and all power is sent forward across neon/gap. None of the power was lost (besides losses due to resitance), and it was in fact, amplified beyond initial input. Aetheric inpouring was allowed to occur by destabilizing/reorienting self/mutual-inductions that would normally balance/oppose forward applied current and magnetic field propagation/collapse. (I suspect self/mutual-induced counter currents/EM fields arise from aetheric polarization)
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Expanding on the importance of self/mutual inductance and how to manipulate it.
Making self/mutual-inductance work in phase with applied primary current, accelerating the change in work, and compressing the time scale, amplifying total power delivered (step-up transformer)
Take for instance again the attached simple circuit. I have no video at the moment, but, if you build it, you will see. Without the diode from the LV+ to HV lead, you will see both electrodes light up, with the bottom neon electrode being brighter. If you add the diode string, you will see only the bottom electrode light up MUCH brighter.
Without the diodes, the forward current of the primary, through mutual-induction creates a reversed flow in the secondary, and the the HV lead is HV- on forward induction and the top neon terminal lights up (current flows from + towards -, the HV- lights up because Voltage flows - towards + ), then the current stops flowing, and the magnetic field collapses much faster than the forward field grew, ("flyback always collapses faster), this collapse reverses the voltages, and the change in work happening over a shorter time increases voltage (Delta Work/Delta Time) making the bottom neon electrode glow brighter.
Now adding the diode...
Normally, as the primary current flows, the mutual-induced current in the secondary opposes the current flow in the primary and creates an opposing reversed magnetic field that fights the magnetic field being created in the primary, by adding the diode string with negative polarity facing the HV lead....this reversed mutual-induced HV- current shorts out through the diodes, as such the opposing induced current in the secondary is allowed to flow out of the secondary, this also removes the opposing induced magnetic field in the Flux core. So this first step, neutralizes the opposition of mutual-inductance.
At the exact same time, the rerouting of this current out of the inductor of the secondary, creates its own reversed self/mutual inductance in opposition to itself, into the secondary, along with a magnetic field also opposed to itself, this self/mutual inductance of a self/mutual induced current is now IN PHASE WITH the primary current/magnetic field (opposite of an opposition), and pulls the primary magnetic field into the core faster, and in turn, pulls the current in faster, which in turns increases the induced current/field speed, etc, etc....in essence, it creates a positve feedback loop, exponentially accelerating the speed which current/voltage is distrubuted across both primary and secondary coils (both coils are energized).
Once the capacitor/pulse is empty/off, the voltage across the primary reverses (see RLC circuits) matching secondary polarity (there is also a possibility the primary current(s) are pulled into the feedback loop as the HV- potential rises, as they would be HV+ biased regardless of their LV bias).
The diode shuts off, and the magnetic field starts to collapse, being as there is no opposed current/field in the coils, or in the iron core, the "Flyback" occurs faster than normal, and the voltage flips and increases many factors higher, and all power is sent forward across neon/gap. None of the power was lost (besides losses due to resitance), and it was in fact, amplified beyond initial input. Aetheric inpouring was allowed to occur by destabilizing/reorienting self/mutual-inductions that would normally balance/oppose forward applied current and magnetic field propagation/collapse. (I suspect self/mutual-induced counter currents/EM fields arise from aetheric polarization)
Reminds me of another circuit. Diodes help to prevent reversal, and support redirection. Harvesting backEMF nets another step. But, there's always a headroom ceiling you can attenuate within.
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Reminds me of another circuit. Diodes help to prevent reversal, and support redirection. Harvesting backEMF nets another step. But, there's always a headroom ceiling you can attenuate within.
But that's not what's going on here at all...the diode string reroutes or short circuits the reversed mutual-induction forward pulse of the secondary caused by the rise of charge and growth of the EMF of the weaker initial discharge into the primary. It's starts a chain-reaction positive feedback loop of accelerating the input charge across the primary which is normally slowed from the opposing counter-EMFs of self/mutual induction. Rerouting the this initial counter-EMF from mutual-induction caused by the time-on, has the effect of not only removing the counter-EMF, but it creates it's own self-induced and mutual-induced counter-EMF against itself, which are both working WITH the primary's EMF. As that happens, they all accelerate each other exponentially...
Easily got ChatGPT to do a thought experiment..
https://poe.com/s/fWGwferekLEqSBqVESky
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I've been busy with the family lately (catching up on yard work, installing a pool, and quality time)..., but I've gotten a pair of ignition coils, 40khz piezo transducers, an ozone generator with water bubbler, 6lbs of citric acid, and a 405nm laser delivered. Waiting on 40 3w 410nm LEDs to be delivered (highest energy absorbtion spectrum of hydrogen(Stan's red LEDs were the lowest energy absorbtion spectrum).
But in the meantime I've started developing a compliment-gated CD4047b frequency generator and I'm fabricating a 19-tubeset Cell, along with a few test cells with a tighter .91mm gap (gap distance for the acoustic 4th harmonic of 10khz (40khz)).
I've also had some more productive talks with ChatGPT about a hypothetical "water capacitor", effect of insulating the postive, how water would still be part of the dielectric, polarization, photoelectric effect, momentary ionization, temporary solvated electrons, orthagonal magnetic field effect on ions and moving electrons, the inverse of classic electrolysis, behavior of sound and voltage wave propagation in concentric tubes, resonant pulsed DC charging circuits, charging chokes, and even a lil argument about String theory being essentially rebranded
Aether theory...lol
ChatGPT is becoming quite the valuable tool. It helped me calculate the .91mm annular gap being a 4th harmonic of 10khz waveguide for 40khz ultrasound through 20c water, and how to tune resistance and inductance experimentally to make the RLC circuit also resonate electrically at 40khz.
I've also been reading alot of recent research papers on the current state of "the art", specifically ultrasonic electrolysis, chromium and nickel catalysts, plasma electrolysis, electron and proton tunneling, and something that really clicked with photoelectric effect, and subsequent "soft x-ray" emmision... Looking at you Herman P. Anderson (RIP), and your Hydrogen isotope "radiolysis" water plugs...oh and ozone absorbtion in water, and NO3 scavenging of solvated electrons from Water, wondering why it's always NO3, and not O3...think it's probably because O3 decomposes to NO2 and NO3, and hydroxyl radicals relative quickly (1hr at most on cold water)
I'm also finishing up a scratch built 3d printer on linear rails, it has dual steppers on every axis to create torque for the heavy y-axis 5/16" forged aluminum bed, and high-speed/balance and precision for the x-axis...the z-axis has really nice anti-backlash nuts, should be really nice to help rapid prototyping. Just have to trim the bed a little, cut /drill the steel flatstock to mount the bed to the bearing blocks, and mount the solid state relay to drive the bed from mains 120vac. My old modified robo3D R1+ is getting tired, and I'm tired of the z-artifacts from the cheap "floating" gantry....So, I'm quite busy lately, but I'm chugging along..."I'll be back" 😅🫡
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First video in years....I need to find my real camera...phones is too slow 😪. Although, you clearly see plasma from the top electrode when I first remove the diode string....the video doesn't do the phenomena justice.
Anyway, take a look at what I'm trying to share...
The anomalous event is so fast, the camera never once caught it...just the sound and the "after flash". Yet the previous "normal sparks" were caught, but they had plenty of error.
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Now, on to the secondary....and those pesky "chokes" (think of that word....choke....) we want to do the opposite of what was just demonstrated. Instead of neutralizing self, and or mutual-induction opposition forces, we want to amplify these time-delaying forces.
The claim that the chokes flux should nullify each other, is misinformation. The very term "choke" describes thier action....to restrict and prevent flow,...to "choke". Having the two coil's flux cancel, by not reversing the polarity of negative side choke (same direction coil, opposite direction flow) would also cancel their opposing induced flows....there would literally be no reason to wind the chokes at all...the diode isn't blocking anything then, as the WFC would only see positive spikes, with very little inductive ripple.
That would do nothing constructive to restrict amperage and it would, in fact, sabotage the next primary forward current flow (the energy we have to pay for) after the flyback that just pulsed the secondary. Because it would cause an opposite voltage (direction) mutual-induction in the primary....the chokes would be doing nothing, and the amplified current flow in the secondary we just so cleverly maximized/amplified have to fight the re-routed flow induced from primary current, and simutaneously create a high opposition reverse flow that would destroy our forward pulse.....horrible idea!!!!
Instead, the chokes have additive flux, restricting current flow severely, additive self/mutual-inductance...that, because of only one "pumping diode" on the positive side, is allowed to reverse flow from the negative side into our positive feedback loop. This would have two very significant results....
A. Accelerating the primary current, and increasing the primary current time-compression even more (compounding even more harmony), and....
B. Forcefully removing/sucking the opposing self/mutual-induced currents from the chokes, into the positive feedback loop, removing the opposing voltage from the pumping diode, accelerating the flyback collapse of the chokes, accelerating the secondary flow into (and simutaneously out of) the WFC (and into the positive feedback loop), all while the primary flyback collapse starts....
The result is....two harmonious, mutually accelerating, helical, caduceus S-flows....one in the primary flow getting sucked into the feedback loop, and a mirrored one with the secondary flow getting sucked into the feedback loop...each, accelerating each other towards infinity (limited by imperfect components....but very HUGE amplification).......Lastly, it all would be there in the positive feedback loop, existing both outside the secondary, but inside the secondary the moment the primary flyback occurs and shuts down the feedback loop's diode(s).....only to start all over again...I present to you....Stan's crypticly understated "double pulse" two mirrored S-flows,...aka, the infinity loop, aka the "flux capacitor".......But....wait, there's more.....something would have to give...failure of water dielectric, blown diodes, arc'd out burnt windings....something would give...so, this event....happening with every resonant pulse, HAS to be modulated...aka "gated"....aka turned off periodically before components fail....and that compliment gating, off-signal, immediately turns on a completely separate circuit, to extract electrons using that huge stored charge.... Funniest part, if you don't know whats going on, and test it at any part of the system...it just looks like plain old electrolysis.....
That's it, demystified (more on Gas processor and atomic hydrogen later)...it doesn't outright violate any laws...buuuuut, it does require "outside energy" to explain the amplification....that, I argue is a quantum Aether, I argue these opposing self/mutual-inductance forces are polarized eddy-like currents of sticky Aether dragging against our currents as we force them through the aether, aka the "heavy-side flow", polarized and in opposition to our currents, causing drag "every action has an equal and opposite reaction"....whatever we push against, or pull against, pushes or pulls back against us.
In an attempt to balance our "unnatural" imbalance (the entire Universe interacts on the basis of reaching equilibrium/balance)...it manifests a measurable opposition, and we can reroute it, and severely imbalance the Aether and rhen use the influx of balancing Aetheric energy to amplify our energy.....Furthermore, the flyback time-compression is caused also by the Aether....we pay energy to perform work (push the Aether away with a magnetic field)....like blowing up a balloon under the ocean....when we stop, the atmospheric pressure of the Aether collapses it so hard and fast that it spikes past ground-state equilibrium....towards infinity...and in a fraction of the time....🤓😎
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Almost forgot....we also need to bleed off the energy with the Electron Extraction Circuit to discharge the water capacitor. Because even though DC can't technically flow through/past a capacitor....much like an inductor, an empty capacitor will allow an influx of voltage, that pulls in, aka "condensces" (capacitors used to be called condensers), or, otherwise fills the capacacitor with current. So to keep getting choking action out of the chokes, we have to periodically drain the Water Capacitor. We drain it, in such a way that electrons leave the water capacitor to neutralize and nucleate the temporarily dissacociated ions into neutral molecular gasses....and again, on the surface, it looks like regular electrolysis to the meters and scopes.
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Ok....that's why there's a huge Mohm resistor on Stan's negative, instead of true insulating coating....voltage travels from - to +, and current travels from + to -...it's a resistor in series, not a bleed-off resistor...it allows voltage to pass instantly and therefore pull current from the +, but when the current gets to the negative it can't flow much at all....but we still get that influx flow into the water capacitor to power the choke effects...and everything on the negative side choke, assymetrically gets pulled into the feedback loop durring choke influx....it would rarifiy the negative leg of the secondary, causing a rise in negative voltage....those mirrored, in-phase AC-like pulses in Stan's patents.....wow, it just dawned on me...OK, no insulation, just some custom high resistance load resistors on each negative, all wired in series...👍
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It would also lock electrons "in motion" as they try to bleed off through resistor instead of snapping back through ion relaxation (that would also encourage solvated electrons, that would respond to an orthagonal magnetic field 🤔)...then we supply a much lower resistive path to ground with the Electron Exctraction Circuit...OK, gonna go make the gating half of my dual CD4047B pulse generator Finished the main resonant frequency, compliment-gating mode CD4047B...now I just have to make another free-running one to gate it...I could just use the 1/2 frequency Q or Q not output, but, one of them is slightly out of phase, and not sure if 50% duty cycle of resonant frequency is going to be right...I can adjust it uncoupled to resonant frequency with a second one...gonna pull down the gate signal with a resistor just enough to still be a high-state input, but simutaneously trigger a H11G2 optodarlington, to trigger a NTE5569 1400v 80 amp SCR.
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Well, CD4047BE worked like a charm....
Just mocked up, waiting on some components to arrive to really finish it....but, it works like a charm. Gating pulse generator is compliment-gating the resonant pulse generator, and simultaneously driving a dummy LED (will be swapped for an opto-darlington). Super exciting....
A few key points to CD4047BE; Timing capacitor needs to be non-polar. The input on the main compliment-gating CD4047 has a 10Kohm pull-down resistor to ground, preventing a floating input. For the chip to act as it should, you shouldn't use less than 10Kohm timing resistor, and shouldn't be more 1Mohm. The timing capacitor should not be less than 100pf...super simple. When the rest of my components get here, I will decide/finalize the opto section....Need to decide if I am going to wire the darlington's gate to emitter to make it an opto-diode...less gain, but should operate cleanly up to around 300Mhz.
Attached are pics of the waveform, and the test circuit with dummy LED lit up....
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Woke up early for this....these babies came earlier than expected. About to bust out the drill press while I wait on some other components, Gas processor+EEC 🤔
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Took me longer than expected, tooling stainless is a pain in the butt....several heat cycles have gotten the micro-welded outter tube as paramagnetic as I can get it...barely holds a neo-magnet now, the weld (seen in the top of the attached pic) is still a little more ferromagnetic, that's why I lined the optical port with the weld (to remove the strongest ferromagnetic portion). I really need to get a mini-kiln to hold the temp at 1100deg for an extended period to get it fully paramagnetic. The inner seamless tube won't even hold a neo-magnet.
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I got some large chunks of Delrin, and plenty of PETG filament...gonna draft/print some parts out of PETG to test and finalize parts to be machined out of Delrin later. PETG is a good insulator, and chemically resistant too, they may be good enough to hold up to ionized hydrogen, we'll see.
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Very nice electrodes
If maybe you apply the leds light in a certain angle it will make shine all the cavity instead of going perpendicular straight to it
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Took me longer than expected, tooling stainless is a pain in the butt....several heat cycles have gotten the micro-welded outter tube as paramagnetic as I can get it...barely holds a neo-magnet now, the weld (seen in the top of the attached pic) is still a little more ferromagnetic, that's why I lined the optical port with the weld (to remove the strongest ferromagnetic portion). I really need to get a mini-kiln to hold the temp at 1100deg for an extended period to get it fully paramagnetic. The inner seamless tube won't even hold a neo-magnet.
Nice electrodes 😀👍
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Thanks, doing some experiments to see if 410nm is opaque to glass/water...to see what kind of housing to make the container/window out of.
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Disappointed today, I had a 4.6" ferrite toroid delivered today...it was shattered in about 6 pieces 😰
Luckily a free replacement is on the way...hopefully they package it a little better this time 🤞
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Very nice electrodes
If maybe you apply the leds light in a certain angle it will make shine all the cavity instead of going perpendicular straight to it
This is a good idea, I will do that
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You can perhaps run some calculation to find the optimum angle and 3d print a suporte to hold them
I believe it will increase the interaction with the water cell space
The ferrrite you can glue with super glue usually loose very little of the original permeability depending on where broken
I would also polish the electrodes to look like mirrors is not so hard
Use a car paste for polishing at the end phase
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You can perhaps run some calculation to find the optimum angle and 3d print a suporte to hold them
I believe it will increase the interaction with the water cell space
The ferrrite you can glue with super glue usually loose very little of the original permeability depending on where broken
I would also polish the electrodes to look like mirrors is not so hard
Use a car paste for polishing at the end phase
I used 60-220grit dry ceramic based sandpaper to start/remove welds, then 600grit ceramic wet sandpaper, then 2000grit ceramic wet sandpaper...finished the inner electrode with titanium dioxide buffing compound. Achieved a mirror finish, there's a few tiny hairline scratches here and there, I will do a final buff before assembly. Also tapped the inner electrode (will fabricate a brass or copper lug embedded in the PETG mount to attach) and a small tap on the outter electrode for electrical connection. Should bounce all that light around real nice. (Pics attached)
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They modified ChatGPT to be "faster" (really they made it dumber, and increased "hallucinations")...I wonder why?? 🤔
At any rate, a nice conversation about mixed solid and liquid dielectric coaxial capacitors. Confirmed some ideas I have about insulating the negative....
Then a comforting discussion on my idea to directly control my dual CD4047BE resonant frequency/gating circuit with a digital resistor and an arduino to track and maintain drifting resonance ("highly accurate, and a very flexible/cost-effective solution")....had to correct datasheet info several times, but finally got there lol. It's gonna work like a charm, and it even gave me some C++ code to use just the arduino ADC input and all software to get it done with a pick-up loop on/near the transformer. To think, most people are making drawings or writing stories/click-bait....
https://poe.com/s/r5Rc3GIylQ4jhosQw5Fw (https://poe.com/s/r5Rc3GIylQ4jhosQw5Fw)
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Yes gpt is every day worse.. few months ago was incredible … today it’s a lot dumber and lazy
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Just need to wind 200 turn bifilar chokes on the other half of the toroid now. I first wrapped the MgZn ferrite toroid with 600v polyvinyl electrical tape. Then wrapped the secondary with 6 layers at fifty turns each of 20awg wire(300 turns total), and wrapped each layer with the same 600v electrical tape (1st attached pic).
Then I wrapped 4 layers at 37 turns each of 14awg wire(148 turns total), also wrapping each layer with electrical tape (2nd attached pic)
I didn't follow Stan's specs, but I followed Tesla's trick of equal weight of windings. I wrapped the primary on top of the secondary to maximize mutual induction, and both windings are wrapped in the same direction (again to maximize mutual induction forces).
The bifiliar chokes will also be wrapped in the same direction (you guessed it, to maximize mutual induction forces).
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Taking a break from hand-winding the torroid (hands are sore from straightening that 14awg as I wound)...
Anyway, I was messing with the ignition coil circuit again and did some more rigorous tests (video soon)...I was more right 12 years ago 🤦♂️😅
It's not a postive feedback loop....threw me for a loop because it is operating in flyback polarity 100%...it's so much simpler...kinda bummed it doesn't reroute the self/mutual inductions....it just omits them all together. But it's definitely not ionizing the airgap with the forward induced pulse and dumping the cap across the air-gap....
It's still free power amplification, but not as eloquent as I imagined.
Anyway...remember a standard ignition coil is an autotransformer, just like a variac...but the wiper arm isn't movable (its a center-tap), and the coil is assymetrical (way higher impedance on the secondary portion).
So, there's two ways to run a variac...step-down (usual mode), and step-up (not common).
In step-down mode, the source is applied across the entire coil, and the load/output is on the bottom of the coil and the wiper arm. For ease of calculations, let's say source is 240v across the entire coil, and there are 240 turns....that means 1v/turn. So whatever turn you set the wiper arm to is the voltage output 240-0v...so setting it to midway, 120 turns, outputs 120v.
Now, step-up mode....reverse source and load....source is on the bottom of the coil, and the wiper arm. Load is across entire coil....so, coil is still 240 turns, but source is now 120v....it's still 1v/turn, so if we set source to 120 turns, it's 120v at midway, plus another 120 turns up to load...@1v/turn it's 120v+120v...load sees 240v
So, back to the ignition coil....it's a variac in step-up mode (just induction optimized and wayyyyy more turns, and thinner windings higher up the series coil)...if we remember back to the behavior of a capacitor across an inductor...voltage transfers instantly across the inductor, before current (therefore before opposite induction voltage)....so, instantaneously before any induced pulse, there is a huge current-less step-up voltage in phase with applied primary voltage at HV lead....making it HV+....
The current hasn't left the capacitor yet, but the diodes are turned on to conduct, and the LV+ is many orders of magnitude below the HV+, so it conducts the LV+ away from the primary inductor, the HV+ only losses a tiny voltage potential because it's impedance/turns is/are so much higher, then the remaining HV+ pulls the current up from the LV-, amplifying the total wattage for free....
In the video, I'm going to make, I will show the 3-contact spark-gap I remembered. The infamous "split the positive" setup I did all the years ago, and it's waaaaay more reliable and obvious (this ties into so many OU devices)...I'm gonna try and get it on super-slowmo too...I put some UV glasses on and you can actually see the spark from the HV+ and the current coming up from the LV-. The neon is pushed so far over-rating the orange neon is blue-white, and the negative is sputtering metal onto the glass (super high-velocity electrons/ions)....I need to get ahold of ionizing smoke detector and see if it's pushing x-rays....but one more video first lol
I figured it out through a couple of observations (like the more energetic arc can't jump as long of a gap as the normal inductive flyback arc...so must be lower voltage), but most notably when messing with the tri-spark-gap configuration (split-positive)....I made the gap to the negative too far, and the HV lead Arc'd to the diodes (LV+), and not to the LV- at all....it fried the diode chain, and I realized the HV+ arc'd to LV+ as LV- bias and over-voltaged the 6k reverse voltage of the chain...
Here's where I verified what I thought I remembered...lol
https://eepower.com/technical-articles/constructing-and-operating-an-autotransformer/ (https://eepower.com/technical-articles/constructing-and-operating-an-autotransformer/)
Anyway, gonna make the video now...takes forever to upload these days...will post a follow up with it soon.
P.S. I think this may relate to Stan's negative choke (wiper arm)....especially looking at something said to P85 years ago by a person who knew his shit on Stan's setup...yes P85, I be lurking lol....the guy who told you how to wire Lawton PLL...
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As the HV+ pulls the current from the LV-, there must be "Chain-Linked" reverse current flow out of the primary (same as flyback collapse) which would increase the HV+ charge....so there is some positive feedback....it's just not the "prime-mover" like I thought.
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One thing I was thinking
Meyer patent gives turns ratios and the voltage input 100 volts
This could give insight about the core he used on the patent
I use the common formula for pulsed transformer
Where turns equals =
Volts / bmax / area m2 / frequency / 2
If it was bidirectional pulse or square wave the last factor is 4 and for sine 4,4
Bmax is usually 0,3 Tesla for ferrite and 1,2 for lamination
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Youtube will not publish my video...it's failed twice
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One thing I was thinking
Meyer patent gives turns ratios and the voltage input 100 volts
This could give insight about the core he used on the patent
I use the common formula for pulsed transformer
Where turns equals =
Volts / bmax / area m2 / frequency / 2
If it was bidirectional pulse or square wave the last factor is 4 and for sine 4,4
Bmax is usually 0,3 Tesla for ferrite and 1,2 for lamination
There is one time where Stan gives example, including core....600 turn 36awg secondary, 200 turn 24 awg primary, 100 turnrn 24 awg chokes....says it's a 1.5" diameter, 1/2" thick "Ferramic 06# "Permag" ferrite toroid.
He then says "An alternate coil arrangement using a conventional M27 iron transformer core is shown in FIG. 9. The coil wrap is always in one direction only."
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Finally...I forgot to mention in video, for a split-second, just as current starts to flow, mutual-inductance overpowers autotransformer voltage and the HV lead is HV-...this triggers the diode conduction, which pulls LV+ off of primary.
Secondly, when this happens and forward mutual-induction is nullified, and HV+ pulls the current out of the primary, the current is reversed (same as flyback collapse), it would mutually-induct HV+ increase...so there is still some positive feedback, just a little different then I thought.
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As stated in a related thread...I have been on vacation with the family, and then had a lot of things to get done before winter rain starts here on the west-coast. Haven't had a lot of time, but I have been doing what I can, when I can.
I analyzed this circuit with my oscilloscope at a lower input power (12v signal generator). I have discovered two isolated, and inverted current flows (opposite direction) existing simutaneously within the ignition secondary. However, at such a low power, I was unable to trigger the phenomena shown in this video. I have come to the conclusion that there is a threshold voltage and/or current to trigger the phenomena shown, as I observed both currents, but could not get the HV lead to reverse direction as shown, I believe the current density (magnetism, ie self/mutual induction) is the overcoming factor, and the autotransforming action is the initiator, so it seems that the phenomena is neither of the two hypothesized modes of operation...instead it is a combination of both simutaneously. The autotransformer voltage distribution, and the rerouting/regauging of the opposing self/mutual induction are both prime-movers or essential factors in this phenomena. With focus on a low impedance primary, and a high(er) impedance secondary joined into one assymetrical autotransformer. (I want to attempt this on my very low impedance toroidal transformer so bad, but I'm scared I will short the secondary...I will do it, as I can re-wind it, but I need to do some more resonance tests first...lol)
In between active experiments and tests, I reanalyzed many of Stan's patents, most specifically his illustrations. Upon doing so, I made what I believe to be, a huge revelation. 14yrs ago, I was super excited about this circuit, and intuitively proclaimed it was the key...I now believe that more than ever!!!
After re-analyzing Stan's patent diagrams....I see this EXACT circuit in his circuit diagrams. Instead of a dual-pole, dual-throw relay/toggle....he used an SCR to deliver the EXACT same input. I will proceed to prove this in the following posts to come, and furthermore, I will show that Stan's "Electron Extraction Circuit" is the "split positive" diode chain in my circuit.
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I am posting currently from my cell phone...I recently moved my PC desk and my work station to create a proper work area. I need to finish setting up my PC so I can edit these illustrations with color overlays to make my observations visually obvious to others. But, for a "teaser" to my revelation, I will post the unedited key illustration(s) from Stan's patents now, and verbally explain it.
If you analyze the attached illustration(s), specifically 8b, you will see the "Voltage intensifier circuit" is analogous to an ignition coil (if not an actual standard ignition coil). Analyzing Stan's illustration attached, labeled 8b, notice the common connection between the primary and secondary (autotransformer)...notice the "ground" symbol connection at this junction. That "ground" symbol is deceptive...the polarization of the primary is backwards in the illustration, it's either deceptive, or just a conceptual diagram. The truthful polarization of that coil would have the ground symbol actually be low-voltage positive at that common connection point, and common ground at the opposite side of the primary.
I'm a conspiracy theorist through and through...and it's my suspiscion that this illustration was edited after the fact, evidenced by the anomalous continuation of the elipse at the top of secondary coil past the termination point to the diode and choke leading to the middle electrode, and also, if you zoom into various areas of the illustration...it appears the edit was done very crudely with MS paint 🤣
The original is photocopied and contains line breaks, inclusions and other optical artifacts....the edited areas are perfectly straight digitally created lines without optical artifacts, and if you look really hard, you can see slight misalignment, and portions of the original (removed) lines barely showing underneath.
I implore you to, at least temporarily, assume what I say is correct, and ignore the specifics of the deceptive alterations. The core of Stan's illustration persists, and the edits only mislead those who would attempt to create a circuit directly from the illustration instead of having a true understanding of the phenomena.
Now, analyze 8b's primary positive connection, notice the evidence of editing at this connection and then at several spots along the path...realize that this is actually the true point of the common primary/secondary connection, and then superimpose my circuit over it in your mind...this is the low-voltage positive, the path after the current limiting resistor is an edit...look at how perfect the illustration line is, it's a digital edit after the fact, it's so obvious. Something critical has been altered, so, just look at the core premise of the illustration....realize that it's my circuit's "split positive" diode chain path to the third electrode....quite literally, look at the last diode's polarization, look at the electrode arrangement, the inner electrode extends past the outter electrode, the floating 3rd electrode supplying LV+....it's what I have shown you here!!!
Lastly, let's analyze the familiar waveform of the attached Fig7 illustration.
What do you see? I used to think it was a gated resonant frequency...It is NOT!!! It is actually the synthesized equivalent of ~100uf capacitor at 120v....(ironic???) It's rectified 60hz AC...each pulse is 120hz four pulses long...that's a 30hz pulse, or a 33.3millisecond pulse. It's not a coincidence that the calculated capacitance of a capacitor taking 33.3milliseconds to discharge across an ignition coil primary having 7.6ohm resistance, and 1.48uh impedance (the value of my Spectra c624 ignition coil primary) is 90.7uf 🤔
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Last thing for now.
My custom wound toroidal transformer is (temporarily was) a huge success. I used a EL817 optoisolator to trigger a pre-amp ksp2222a npn, that triggers the power-stage 2n3055 npn transistor all commonly powered (except the input signal) by a Vhf engineering 11-15v regulated power supply I set to 13.5v. The input signal ground is attached to common ground.
The results were observed by monitoring the input signal on the LED side of the optoisolator and common ground on channel A of my oscilloscope (setting this to the trigger channel of the oscilloscope), and then channel B was attached to the 2n3055 tab (collector).
The results showed an incredibly high bandwidth of operation, and a pleasant audible musical quality reminiscent of retro 8-bit arcade music 🤣
I applied a neon across the secondary to aid in visual observation and was the only secondary load during my tests. I found that the MgZn ferrite core "rings" during the entire operation, from 1hz to 15mhz. The first resonance was found at around 150hz, the most powerful resonance at approximately 300hz, but higher harmonics at 900hz and 1.8mh were barely lower voltage than 300hz, going to higher harmonics produced more significantly lower voltages. I couldn't observe the secondary side as I do not have a probe capable of enduring the high voltage. However, my oscilloscope read just under 300v peaks on the primary side in the same polarity as the input, but out of phase 180deg, matching the T-Off period of the input at 300hz resonance.
Sadly, transferring my breadboard circuit to protoboard, I reverse biased the ksp2222a accidentally and overvoltaged the emitter to gate, frying the only ksp2222a I had at the time, and the opto. Only economical source of ksp2222a I found was in China (after trying multiple pre-amp npn transistors, the ksp2222a performed amazingly), and they recently arrived. I knew they would be slightly different than the one I had used, so I replaced the 220ohm limiting resistors I had used, with variable 500ohm resistors. Again, sadly...they performed very poorly, the circuit worked, but the performance observed in the waveform was atrocious. The transformer operation was dampened and the waveform was not ringing like it was before and the highest voltage observed on the collector tab was 34v...I resoldered many times getting it all back together, and that coupled with the leaky variable resistors I suspect was responsible for the poor performance, as I saw the characteristic ringing oscillations I was after, unreliably, and momentarily when I would physically push on the variable resistors. So I yet again remade the signal and amplification circuit on a protoboard using my original 220ohm resistors, all new ICs and never soldering above 300c. I'm nearly ready to test it again, and I'm hoping I again see the performance I had on my breadboard. If I do, I will post pics, maybe a video, and I will make a circuit diagram showing how well all NPN triggering works...oh yeah, it's actually 3 NPNs, as the output side of the opto is also an NPN.
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I did it...we have been so misinformed...using my knowledge/memory, and ability to hyper-fixate to my advantage. That plus my inclination to listen to my intuition....I used only components as listed by Stan, but I analyzed the evidence of patent tampering/digital editing after the fact to aid my efforts. I'm certain I figured it out, I know trying to monetize it leads to suppression, so I'm going to just give the info out free. I will answer honest questions, but I will not indulge any speculation, dissolution or distracting redirecting. This pretty much squares my obligations to mankind, and I'm not going to be public about my progress beyond the schematic I'm going to share, and a few pics of my power circuit. This is not about digital circuitry....I have made a nice cd4047b pulse generator, but I'm using my amazing FPGA I got for $80 on sale. It's super accurate and very easy to use....Anyway, enough talk. Take a look, I encourage you to download it or take screenshot. This is the key to Stan, Puriarch, the Gray tube, the fueless noble gas engine, etc,etc, etc. It's actually the key to the gas processor, the WFC, and even Stan's injector plugs.
Edit: Accidentally drew the SCR, and the NPNs with the wrong polarity...this new attachment is legit 8)
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P.S. I didn't draw or mention the chokes, because I already explained their function in previous analysis of this autotransformer feedback loop. They delay current flow, to bring it in harmony with the primary current dump. The only thing that isn't %100 certain is the placement of the resistive load...I placed it on the negative because of Stan's patent that describes a custom resistor on the negative consisting of a sandwich stack of stainless steel and carbon....that, and my observation of the 3 terminal discharge I shared in video before. The HV lead must arc to the LV+ diode string (it would rather arc to ground), then current can be seen rising from the ground up to the LV+. That is how the current amplification phenomena manifests. I will repost videos somewhere more secure than YouTube in the future, both videos are actually correct...but, idk...it's so easy to make one yourself, it's not a priority of mine...and if you do, it will be self-evident.
P.P.S. the chokes would go on the HV lead to the tube set, and the negative lead to tube set...the EEC resisitive load would most likely go on the LV+ after the diodes (like I said in earlier posts, ignore the misinfo and do not wind the chokes to nullify mutual induction)...good luck everyone.
Edit: I made an educated guess on the chokes, and the EEC resistive load in the previous post's edit...pretty sure I got it licked....
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I am listening :) :) :)
Go on!
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I mean, it's all laid out....but, I will try and reiterate...Stan did several different things, the demo cell (Dave Lawton replication) is the worst. The next iteration Stan developed right before the miniaturized plug version, was by his own words "tweaked" to produce more gas. That is the autotransformer and diode positive feedback loop. The same circuit drives the last iteration (water fuel plugs). The conversation I initially had with chat gpt is correct, the second theory I had about instantaneous voltage distribution across an inductor (how a variac can be ran in step-up or step-down) is ALSO correct...I initially didn't think both could happen...but. after running the ignition coil/diode chain feedback loop at 12v with a 1/2 watt limiting 220ohm resistor in series with the primary....I swept every harmonic up until it drops off at around 3mhz. The first resonance was found at right around 150hz. In resonance at such low power, the phenomena I showed when dumping a capacitor straight into the primary (disappearing forward induction, straight to flyback polarity) did not happen. Instead using two channels, I set channel one to trigger using the cmos signal on the isolated side of my opto. Then I started by probing the negative of the primary. I found a much higher voltage mirrored signal, with the same phase (lowest input current, and voltage rise on primary in resonance). Probing the primary LV+ before the diodes (hooked to LV+ but, unhooked from the secondary HV lead) I saw almost nothing. Moving to the end of the free-floating diode chain I saw a curious sight, but it would not trigger, i attached the second channel ground to the primary negative while second channel probe was attached to end of diode chain, and shorted the common ground in my oscilloscope. I detached the triggering ground of channel 1, and checked again (now grounded to LV+) ...on the other side of the diode chain, free-floating in air...was a HV wave of opposite polarity but in phase. The diode chain was blocking it from causing issues and the standing resonant tension across the primary kept the two inverted ground potentials separated across the primary despite the HV lead conducting through a neon load to primary ground. Two opposing currents standing still across the primary. The same thing happening across the secondary...these are the opposing counter currents of self/mutual induction....not opposing.....instead, moved out of the way, just waiting all politely lol.
When allowed to conduct, this lower powered manifestation does increase the overall power seen in the load neon....but not like before (not as intense, and the wrong polarity).....the neon shows that the polarity is NOT flyback polarity...primary ground is positive biased to the diode chain/HV lead. So, without the current density, the magnetic flux isn't strong enough to produce enough opposing self/mutual induction counter-flow to overcome the normal flow and pull it all into the backside of the secondary (postive feedback loop).....because, the higher the magnetism, the longer it takes the forward current to get across the primary coil and the higher the counter-emf voltage climbs , yet the primary voltage travels across the coil instantly...and here's the key, this autotransformer voltage distribution (instantly across the primary......and the much higher impedance secondary, as if one long variac in step-up mode) results in the LV+ overextending all the way to the top of the secondary and becoming HV+. This results in a much stronger/faster pull on the primary current lagging behind 90deg. This in turn creates an even larger counter self/mutual induction than normal, the assymetry of the primary + secondary inductance as one coil, means the voltage of the mutually induced counter current in the secondary overcomes the autotransformer voltage (HV+) faster than the primary surge-current can get through the primary (the increased voltage=greater magnetism=greater opposed self/mutual induction=greater initial current lag....quite counter-intuitively) and it makes the diode chain start to conduct the opposing mutual-induction from the secondary, and the opposing self-induction from the primary to practically zero ohm backside of the secondary. This not only removes the opposition out of the way of the primary current making its way all the way to the tip of the secondary, these two flows, now create their own opposing self/mutual induction flows that pile up on the primary current/voltage, as such, the primary current moves faster than it would normally cross the primary and now wants to go up to the LV+ turned HV+ at the top of the secondary, the opposing flows head to same place in an opposite direction through the diode chain...this compounding positive feedback loop continues until the primary current empties from the capacitor. The moment the capacitor empties, the magnetic field collapses and both currents reverse polarity and all of the currents are in the secondary (either in the coil, or on it's backside in the feedback loop)...the 100uf capacitor is not enough to make if all the way across the primary (if it makes it at all), the self/mutual induced currents flip to HV+ , the primary HV+ at the top of the secondary flips to negative and through the low resistance HV lead, keeps the diodes conducting. The HV+ counter-flows are more opposed to ground, and when I sprayed water in a confined glass bottle containing the triple electrode setup I showed before, it avoided the middle diode chain electrode and skin effect conducted on the wet glass around it to the ground electrode....but, if the path to the middle electrode is the lower resistance than the ground electrode, the HV+ will strike lower HV+ of the primary current coming out of the diode chain, and together they will then pull even more current from the ground electrode.
There is some wave destruction as the discharge voltage is lower then normal flyback (normal flyback spark can span the entire distance, and this phenomena has to be positioned to span two 1/2 distances)....but ALL the current (minus loses) is applied to HV....the primary current is not destroyed as normally happens.....hopefully it clicks now.
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Furthermore, the intermixed discharge of these two flows creates a distinct HV, low amperage arc, then a slightly lower HV, high current discharge. High-surge current density is needed to make it happen....together with a low impedance primary makes for a tricky delivery. The alternate gating is to fill the rather small capacitor, and then disconnect it before discharging into the primary...while it's not a lot of power over time, it's quite a high surge current, something like 80amps in 33milliseconds or so....if you wanted to ramp it even further with, say a .48uh primary, E-Core epoxy insulated high performance ignition coil, you would probably need a smaller capacitor and surge-current would most likely be even higher.
Also, that circuit schematic isn't exact, pull-down resistors would need to be used, along with correct limiting resistors for the NPN gates, the SCR gate and correct voltage dividing....I have not found a single simulator that can correctly simulate this....and I doubt I will. So, I am carefully proceeding, as my SCR is $158....lol
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Spotted a mistake on the FWB rectifier and SCR connection polarity...working on the fix now
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Yeah, lol stayed up late drawing it, sorry...machined the assembly, and then actually wired the components correctly that day, reversed the SCR and Q1 and Q2 NPNs polarity to the FWB rectifier and C1 capacitor as if PNPs when drawing it up tired last night 🤦♂️
Verbal correction while I fix it - (PNPs won't work as SCR conducts in the same manner as a NPN)...FWB positive goes directly to C1 capacitor positive terminal (not ground), SCR Cathode connects directly to FWB negative, SCR anode connects to Q1 NPN emitter, Q1 collector connects C1 capacitor negative terminal. Then, Q2 emitter connects directly to C1 capacitor negative terminal, Q2 collector connects to primary negative, Primary positive then connects directly to C1 positive terminal.....🥴🥱 like I said days ago...switching on the negative....🤦♂️ sorry, the rest is correct.
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Fixed it, gonna post it here and edit the original post and include it, but my handwritten notes have some good info, so gonna leave the original....sorry all this one is polished though ;)
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Thats a very nice drawing!
I can follow what your are thinking there..
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The statement "demystification" is too loud.
There are no formulas that can be checked and recalculated.
You can check your words (text), if only your installation gives a volume of Brown gas greater than Faraday electrolysis.That is, according to the final result. With the same size of the fuel cell area and the volume of water used.
Formulas also allow you to check at each stage. Starting from the generation scheme -> VIC -> fuel cell
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The statement "demystification" is too loud.
There are no formulas that can be checked and recalculated.
You can check your words (text), if only your installation gives a volume of Brown gas greater than Faraday electrolysis.That is, according to the final result. With the same size of the fuel cell area and the volume of water used.
Formulas also allow you to check at each stage. Starting from the generation scheme -> VIC -> fuel cell
I mean, burden of proof is on whoever wants the world to buy their product. I don't want you buy a thing from me. My efforts, now, and in the past speak for themselves.
Just like the truth, it's self-evident...and it's easy enough to explore for yourself.
I experimentally verified this circuit 14yrs ago...with a dpdt relay and a 555...I saw it underlying in many OU patents I've studied since I started this quest with David Wenbrent's water4fuel Skype channel in 2007... I have replicated many anomalous circuits on my quest to understand, and out of them all, this is the one that stuck in my mind. As I realized that a version of this is in all the significant patents, from Gray's tube, Puriarch's nickel coated water plugs, the three terminal excitation source in the fueless noble gas engine....I would put my money on this is the "truth" of electricity and magnetism Edward Leedskalin was alluding to, that he used to build the Coral Castle.
If you didn't see the experimental proof/demo I had on youtube, looking for a better host atm, but it's very easy to replicate, and that original schematic with the 555, ignition coil and dpdt relay will get you looking the phenomenon in the face, just swap the 35v DC with bridge rectified wall current to see it real nice and significant....you can do it with like $20 on Amazon parts (9$ ignition coil, a dpdt relay/switch and a few bucks for a bridge rectifier and a handful of 1n4007diodes).
It should be glaringly obvious that if the discharge energy increases, as I have shown, with a few extra diodes added in the right place, despite their resistive losses and voltage drops then it's output must be more efficient, regardless...if not, then I can't help you, and your opinion is yours. But why try and disparage?...just move on. If you got a hv ammeter and a hv probe, please take a definitive reading...
Odd how this "give use calculations, and hook it up, or quite down" shade throwing, comes after elucidating how the anomaly of the observation can be explained and how the "unexpected behavior" of a reverse-biased diode conducting by spurious spikes of self/mutually induced counter-currents, often referred to as "reverse recovery" or "reverse conduction" can be exploited to our benefit by using it to regauge the opposing forces of self/mutual induction.
Odd that while it was a demo circuit just showing the concept, with an experimental proof, and words (text)...it was no comment, or "interesting" at best. But the moment I share how I see it, or more accurately, it's abstraction, in some of Stan's circuits...then put together how the abstraction (or possibly the alteration) could be made to work with this observation I took the time to share, in a circuit (that I took the time to fix a mistake on), you want equations, and volumes 🤣
Take it or leave it, I don't really care either way. The word "demystified" is exactly the perfect decibel level to explain "Voltage can do work" as Stan claimed, then say "I believe certain claims and language were disingenuous and misleading....look at this circuit/effect, it's essence is in these schematics, and this schematic has the exact waveform made by digital/semiconductor means that this manually discharged capacitor in my experiment has...weird, this circuit just needs to have the common ground changed to a common +, and this alternate pulse needs to be delivered a little differently based off of my observations of the way this thing triggers/arcs"
Odd and dismissive response for someone on "ionization"x.com
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Thats a very nice drawing!
I can follow what your are thinking there..
Glad to hear it Steve, and thanks, thought it deserved a proper mock-up👌
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These are just words, they are not confirmed by calculations, and calculations are not confirmed by experiments.
Having a successful experiment without calculations does not guarantee that the process went exactly as you describe in words.
There is no way to verify your words if you have not provided calculations.Moreover, there is no way to test the experiment if you do not provide calculations.
By what figures can you prove that you had the Meyer process and not the Faraday electrolysis?
I am skeptical of your words.
I think you got a Faraday pulsed electrolysis.
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Dude, the government was trying to get his investors to sue Stan in a class-action lawsuit for this being "normal" electrolysis before he died...I never said Stan's process wasn't Faradic electrolysis...in fact I'm alluding to it being just that. The only thing that makes it viable is the power amplification provided by the phenomenon I'm describing. It's my contention (implied), that his special terms were allegorical, to evade patent invalidation for thermodynamic violations.
Furthermore, DC neon electrode illumination is a known and fixed fact, it can most certainly be used to prove polarity changes experimentally. Empirical observations are also quite persuading in my opinion. The fact that the electrode polarity changes, and the discharge is obviously and undeniably amplified...coupled with the fact that a capacitor cannot supply anything above its rated capacitance is in fact "proof"....the dpdt switch/relay acts as undeniable isolation from source, and mandates nothing extra is added. Sorry that's not enough to prove it to you, and if you don't care enough to look at it yourself (cheap and easy to look at), then, once again, neither do I.
Mathematical proof is often crafted and in-fact invented after the fact to explain experimental observations. Mathematically crafting/modeling the experiment first, then running the experiment to prove the math is cool and all...but I'm a mathematical fallibist...and I'm after the truth first, then mathematical proof after.
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His demo cell (Lawton replication) was resonant and arguably non-faradic...but how the hell could he supply water vapor and ozone directly to a spark plug voltage zone (his very last version) and have a singular dissociation and then explosive event at the end, and it have any of the stuff claimed to be going on in the Lawton replication happen?
Hmm, I wonder what he meant by Voltage "Intensifier" Circuit...or the comment "current is not delivered or made to flow....in the standard way"?