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Title: The effect of magnetic and optic field in water electrolysis
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 19, 2018, 21:17:57 pm
Hi friends,

Look what i have found here.
Its a ver very nice document about adding magnets and laser diodes to the electrolysis proces. They claim 9 times better results.
Its a pitty that they didnt measure the isotopes of hydrogen during their tests.
Go have a look....

cheers
Title: Re: The effect of magnetic and optic field in water electrolysis
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 21, 2018, 04:12:36 am
Its a very interesting document great find Steve! i took a first quick look and than i will read more to get the details

Meyer used some lens i believe the function is to probably to polarize and spread the radiation

In this work they indeed increased the hydrogen production but if you note how much power its using it become sort of not so interesting... however the magnetic field is a positive  news although magnets are expensive



Title: Re: The effect of magnetic and optic field in water electrolysis
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 24, 2018, 15:23:11 pm
I do know that magnet feilds will stop  or slow down scaling in water pipes  not sure what hapends   as it has been 15 year since I last look into it, but I do now have a new reason to look into it again  we will see
Title: Re: The effect of magnetic and optic field in water electrolysis
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 20, 2019, 17:30:19 pm
Any news on this subject?! I've been 6 years ago on this forum with a last post. This week I took a quick look what is going on. I was stunned by this find and even more surprised nobody tried this out. I'm back on H2 dry cells again by seeing this Dutch guy who is compressing H2 in a propane tank up to 15bar=about 150 liters! In combination with green laser and magnets this all gave me hope and an inspiration boost. Have to rebuild my cells and I ordered two green laser pointers on Alie. In the meantime I became a 3D printing specialist so enough skills and tools to build something. I will be back.

A nice easter to you all.

kind regards,
Leon.
Title: Re: The effect of magnetic and optic field in water electrolysis
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 20, 2019, 17:33:45 pm
that is a dangerous process and could cost you your life
Title: Re: The effect of magnetic and optic field in water electrolysis
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 20, 2019, 17:38:17 pm
If you want to save my life please explain why. If been working with pure hydrogen(H2) it's a friendly gass to work with.
Title: Re: The effect of magnetic and optic field in water electrolysis
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 20, 2019, 17:43:28 pm
here is the moment where I stopped because of a lack on storage possibility's for the hydrogen.
Title: Re: The effect of magnetic and optic field in water electrolysis
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 21, 2019, 20:07:18 pm
This is what I want to build as a test setup. A two plate setup. From down under trough the gap going up the green laser beam. It shines trough a lens which breaks the light as a straight line. I can add magnets on the surface of the lens. Gas can flow trough the upper holes where measurements can be done. There is a membrane between the two red inner rings. It is possible to 3D print lenses (see video) but maybe Plexiglas works too.
(https://knookl.home.xs4all.nl/waterstof/TEST%20SETUP.jpg)
 


Title: Re: The effect of magnetic and optic field in water electrolysis
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 21, 2019, 22:03:32 pm
Any news on this subject?! I've been 6 years ago on this forum with a last post. This week I took a quick look what is going on. I was stunned by this find and even more surprised nobody tried this out. I'm back on H2 dry cells again by seeing this Dutch guy who is compressing H2 in a propane tank up to 15bar=about 150 liters! In combination with green laser and magnets this all gave me hope and an inspiration boost. Have to rebuild my cells and I ordered two green laser pointers on Alie. In the meantime I became a 3D printing specialist so enough skills and tools to build something. I will be back.

A nice easter to you all.

kind regards,
Leon.

Those crazy Dutchguy's.....hahahahahahahaha

Steve.....also Dutch... ;)
Title: Re: The effect of magnetic and optic field in water electrolysis
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 21, 2019, 22:21:58 pm
If you want to save my life please explain why. If been working with pure hydrogen(H2) it's a friendly gass to work with.

Ok, serious. We all know that splitting water into hydrogen and oxygen is dangerous in the first place.
Hydrogen with oxygen or HHO is very explosive and putting that combi under pressure is deadly. Simple as that.
However...
I have personally worked with H2 under pressure. I had the pleasure to buy 1 bottle for my tests years ago.
Having said that, Leon, making a cell with a zemelap, or something else that you can imaging as membrame is a different koekie.
You have NO garantie that no oxygen is leaking into the hydrogen output..
Thats a bit my worry.....
Ill gues if you would make H2 with help of a Hoffman apparatus, then you might be more safe, if you can deal with the pressure differences between the two parts.
You see, the pressure difference in a platecell with separator is not easy to keep in balance...

What are your thoughts.....?

Title: Re: The effect of magnetic and optic field in water electrolysis
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 21, 2019, 23:04:16 pm
I use rip stop nylon for the membrane, it's material they use in the tent industries. Cheap, 100% nylon en very dense, no gas bleeding whatsoever.
https://www.stoffen.net/57-997577-01_ripstop-1.html (https://www.stoffen.net/57-997577-01_ripstop-1.html)
The problem is not building a gas splitter that's an old koekie for me  ;)
video showing playing with two cells in my car.

I'm focusing on the green laser en the magnets, can't wait for the stuff to come in!


Title: Re: The effect of magnetic and optic field in water electrolysis
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 09, 2019, 20:11:12 pm
Could you please explain to me, maybe with a drawing, whatever you did with the gas slpitter and how that worked. Sorry to hijack a post.
Title: Re: The effect of magnetic and optic field in water electrolysis
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 10, 2019, 08:31:45 am
The two H2 sides of the cells were connected to the air intake. It did not worked at all because the amount of current needed for the two cells was like 12v 40 amps or something. The motor/dynamo had to work very hard to keep the battery charged. There was no millage improvement at all. For what I know now the better method is use the H2 by the injectors, but energy losses are way to high anyway. A new finding could be to use this technique https://maynex.com/everything-you-need-to-power-your-vehicle-with-water-gas/  (https://maynex.com/everything-you-need-to-power-your-vehicle-with-water-gas/) Aluminum + Sodium Hydroxide + water = pure H2 gas. I'm building on a tank this moment but will not use the gas in a car, my needs are heating. Will post the results over here on this forum when I'm ready.