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Projects by members => Projects by members => Sebosfato => Topic started by: sebosfato on August 26, 2015, 18:57:47 pm
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Hello i will update this first post of this thread with the numbers of how much i have received as donation..
$170,00 TOTAL up to this moment! it depends also on you!
For donating in dollars https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donations&business=sebosfato%40gmail%2ecom&lc=US&item_name=Sebosfato%20Probe%20Crowdfunding&item_number=1¤cy_code=USD&bn=PP%2dDonationsBF%3abtn_donateCC_LG%2egif%3aNonHosted
for donating in euros https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donations&business=sebosfato%40gmail%2ecom&lc=US&item_name=Sebosfato%20Probe%20Crowdfunding&item_number=1&no_note=0¤cy_code=EUR&bn=PP%2dDonationsBF%3abtn_donateCC_LG%2egif%3aNonHostedGuest
In counterpart i´m going to update my pll schematic! And release some good info!
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Now there is a link for donating for pay pal in euros and dollars.. if you want i can make more links for your country...
thanks electrotek!
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Now there is a link for donating for pay pal in euros and dollars.. if you want i can make more links for your country...
thanks electrotek!
Please do. It's hard times for all of us, but you deserve a little support.
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Okay $50 sent your way from True Green Solutions now if the matching funds is still going on you will have $100 more coming in shortly afterwards.
Remember to give YAH all the glory,
Shalom,
TGS
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Now there is a link for donating for pay pal in euros and dollars.. if you want i can make more links for your country...
thanks electrotek!
Please do. It's hard times for all of us, but you deserve a little support.
Thank you very much my friends!
i can´t remember where are you from electrotek, so please just tell me so i can make a link for your currency..
Thanks you very much too Edd! hope we can get the budget... i think maybe i can get more some donations here... i hope, because i´m pushing hard here in brazil too with my social network... trying but very few likes... only some very close friends and people with heart give likes but no much share...
lets hope for the good
thanks a lot guys...
i will remember forever!
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i can´t remember where are you from electrotek, so please just tell me so i can make a link for your currency..
I'm still in the US. (Not yet 'from'.) We have the dollar, but that's supposed to change a little on the first of October. No time like the present!
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i can´t remember where are you from electrotek, so please just tell me so i can make a link for your currency..
I'm still in the US. (Not yet 'from'.) We have the dollar, but that's supposed to change a little on the first of October. No time like the present!
you see... the life style you have in america and europe, the people here try to copy here in poor manner because while in europe the minimum money you will get working for 8 hours a month is 1000 euros... here is 800,00 reais... like 200euros... you see yet we pay more than 75% over imports because it inclusdes the shipping prince in the taxes ...
thats why my friends here cannot live while there you get an iphone for 200$ here costs 2000our money.. all my friends have it... guess what.. are all in debit? consumerism is really a crudelty in my country... i see people who have nothing and who will never have anything...
i have an old blackberry my brother gave to me.. haha never gave a * for this things..
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Of course you mean the lifestyle that is available here. But not mine. I live way out in the country, with my truck broken down for one year now. A ride to town for groceries costs $20 if someone wants to do it. No running water, no hot water, no ice box, no electricity to plug in. Hauled in water costs $50 for 200 gallons, twice each month. No blackberry, no iphone, no xbox, no TV or radio. Just a cell phone and cheap computer. Wireless Internet is $50, some months I couldn't pay. All I have is very little social security retirement, which will probably reduce. Life is what you make it, but all I want to do is build things and experiment. No money from that, only hoping someone will be happy if I give away everything I find. Usually all I get is I'm stupid and a liar. Two or three times in 12 years someone said thank you. Going off line is a good option.
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Of course you mean the lifestyle that is available here. But not mine. I live way out in the country, with my truck broken down for one year now. A ride to town for groceries costs $20 if someone wants to do it. No running water, no hot water, no ice box, no electricity to plug in. Hauled in water costs $50 for 200 gallons, twice each month. No blackberry, no iphone, no xbox, no TV or radio. Just a cell phone and cheap computer. Wireless Internet is $50, some months I couldn't pay. All I have is very little social security retirement, which will probably reduce. Life is what you make it, but all I want to do is build things and experiment. No money from that, only hoping someone will be happy if I give away everything I find. Usually all I get is I'm stupid and a liar. Two or three times in 12 years someone said thank you. Going off line is a good option.
Thats an unbelievable story, Electrotek. I hope that your place outside the country is a beautifull one despide the money issues.
I think you deserve a great thank you for your ideas and input. I really enjoy them.
Hope you stay online for a while. Dont go.
Cheers!
Steve
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yes i was refereing to the majority of the people.... i´m really proud to see how you do it! And it make even more clear your eforth.. the things we need to fight to get the time....
I thank you too!
yesterday i saw on television news... that the pib internal product per person in Usa is 55,000$ in italy it were 35000$ this is how much people earn a year in avarage...
here is 10000
at the new yet i had to listen that an avarage american worker values 4 brasilians.. 1 italian 3 brasilians in term of value produced... but in their stupid analysis they do not see they are taking a number that is not possible to conclude this aberation/.... for they dont consider the different businness this countries had and how bad is the money distribution... actually people here lives with 2500$ a year
yes i know in usa i know is commom to earn that in a month...
if i had this luck today yet we would be really far =D
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When it comes to how much people make trust me the 1% makes sure every one is more than likely on the same playing field unless you are like me being a Negro as we have it even harder. My people make up around 6% of the population yet we make up close 53% of those that are imprisoned. We can't even laugh without something evil happening to us: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NLJsLoDAq4
My people truly aren't apart of this country the USA as we have been singled out and made separate by never being compensated for what was done to my people and is still being done to my people this very day. We are told to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps but when we do all that we have done is destroyed and that history covered up as it if never happened. No people on this planet have been treated worse than my people as my people in Brazil are pushed to back and made like to not exist never being shown in the media in an attempt to say we just aren't there. I am very aware of the history of my people and even the reasons why we have been put through all of this. In this video it clearly shows how in America we are truly not apart of this nation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7700JG2r3A
The only way I can contribute is to not eat and give that money to Sebosfato and I did it as he needs this equipment https://www.globalmediapro.com/dp/A2H108/Pintek-DP-15K-Differential-Probe-35MHz-15kV/ to take his work further. I know the meaning of the word sacrifice and am willing to do my part to help. For too long have I been made out to be the bad guy and a person that doesn't know what they are doing based on the heritage of my people and those that try to hide the sins that they have committed against my people. The funny thing is they cling to the history of my people but deny us our rightful place as a people in history as the bible is of the history of my people. So, Job 38:22-23 means a whole lot more to me than it does for any of you as that is part of my bloodline I am talking about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX0DtMiYxEM&index=1&list=PLi-H9H7FtNlJ5loFIkYurjQC17HoI8MRl
Based on the past relationship Sebosfato and I have with all of the fighting and all if I am willing to give everyone should be willing to give as all can do as I did without question. Fast for a few days and give those monies to Sebosfato as it is for a good cause. Trust me I am not rich but I know how and why things must be done the right way in order to achieve success. He needs this to further his work and be able to see what I see when experimenting. You all have the power to make this happen pull together your resources so that this fundraiser can be a success story one that you can look back on and say I am proud to say I did my part to aid a person in their time of need for the cause of ending this energy enslavement system we all are trapped in right now.
Shabbat Shalom,
TGS
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sebosfato:
I can't find your face book page because I'm not a member over there. If you post a link to your page, right here, I can go there to make a donation.
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of course my friend.. please add me there i will be happy to have you in my personal contact list... there its all in portugues but some good google translator should help you untill i translate it all
i wrote i little story about my story into this... from the start cutting the * .. .
the page is https://www.facebook.com/ajudeasalvaromundo?sk=info&app_data
Thanks a lot Steve!
And thank again for your support Edd! i know the people have looking more the color of the skin and in my country your people has suffered and still does... in this world... i have a mission you can call me what you want but my mission is to save this damn world actually is our mission guys we that could see there was something beyond going on.. we that could see the truth in stan words...
i believe we have this mission regard the all inequalities we have in the world.. in the end we are just solving an inequality to get the current to zero...
we have the power we can do it.. non of us alone will make it... no one team of 10 people will make it..it will take thousands of people coming together and saying stop all and i want it too!
i hope we can stay together and get this out to the people at a reasonable price so all the result from it can go to change the part of the world where need!
with agriculture... tecnology... irrigation.. energy ... new sociological ideals we can make a better place for everyones childrens...
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I don't understand the field marked CPF? And is this good for dollars?
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Hello Electrotek
there are two links i think you could use... i think maybe paypal would be better for dollars as is not going to ask you this number.... this cpf is a brazilian document that carry our fiscal data....
in the paypal link the donation is one time only...
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donations&business=sebosfato%40gmail%2ecom&lc=US&item_name=Sebosfato%20Probe%20Crowdfunding&item_number=1¤cy_code=USD&bn=PP%2dDonationsBF%3abtn_donateCC_LG%2egif%3aNonHosted
in the other (mercado pago) would be monthly up to when you want...
https://www.mercadopago.com/mlb/debits/new?preapproval_plan_id=ce587e578d96409194fb6767032f4500
in the brazilian link seems to have less taxes for the transfer...i just pay for the operation...2%,,,
thats for comming there on the page to see... you may have saw how little number of likes... you should see the kind of stupid things the hundreds of people in my friends list likes hahaha
thanks again bro hope we make it!
Fabio
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This site is demanding that I sign up for my own pay pal account. Pay pal has already been hacked and I don't want my living expense money to disappear from my bank account. Isn't there some other way to do it? Maybe I could send you a cash card in the mail? Or buy components and ship them to you? And the link doesn't go to your face book page.
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i would not worry with the paypal all have used and i always used without problems...
my face is this https://www.facebook.com/psyplant and the page i created https://www.facebook.com/ajudeasalvaromundo
you could help anyway you can bro, anyhelp would be good...
i was willing to get some more of that double coated wire but was expecting someone to come back from states to get it without taxes and shiping...
just trying to get aroung too
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Sorry, time's up. It's a new month and this month I don't have room in my budget for a donation. Especially when someone has a higher living standard than I do. Also, I just found out that using SS electrodes with water produces Hexavalent Chromium, which is a known carcinogen. I cannot support research which produces a carcinogen. Besides that, I don't recognize Ed Mitchel as a leader in the HHO community. And that's what this fund raiser is all about. He says you have to have 'his' type of probe or else you're a lier about your voltage level. He knows full well that his own gofundme page is still at $0, yet he convinced you that fund raising will get you the probe? And it was a mistake to tell me to use pay pal anyway, when I said I refuse to do so. Sorry.
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Bro don't worry, as i said any help is wanted, and needed... i don't think that i deserve this help to be just any poorer than anyone or smarter.. i just need help.. if you see... i even offered something in counterpart, more than everything i could... if you still feel is not worth than its up to you...
this probe is something i want to get since more than 1 year now.. Edd pushing is not the reason why i want to get it... nor his doubts.. the non having of this probe won't stop me! as never did...
I dont recognize anyone other one than stanley meyer as any leader in hho community ... steve is a leader as he own a site... and me, i'm nothing...just someone else trying.. im just trying pretty hard and from a long time...
i don't think it would produce this hexavalent chromium anyway... this only creates in chemical environment if i remember well ( i researched too).. my water has 0 ppm... no electrolyte... so my research does not support the production of carcinogen...
i even already have more to updates to the pll circuit...
i will not act like others saying anything bad of you or anyone if you cannot help... don't wait it from me... and i don't expect it from anyone nor you...
my living standard is the following... i have around 30 years... and i made my parents house the base of this research (they left home) ...still they help with the electric and water bills.. i dedicate all my money i can get to this... i recently left my job to have more time for this research so the incomings are really low... some times i have less than 200$ for the month ...eating, gasoline and smoking... this are my only expenses... i never get out... hope it inspires you...
i could even tell you that if anyone could buy the entire probe for me i would love to pay it all back as soon as i can! i tried to make this fundraising to let all help just a little so i would have a debt with you all not just one or other... thats was my first though get we all together..
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Like I said Sebosfato,
Nothing like a little fundraiser to find out just who your friends truly are. That guy had no intention of helping you out just post after post of one excuse after another, but remember like I said each and every one of us can fast for a few days and give you the money we would have spent eating. He is no friend of the technology as has been an enemy of mines for some time now.
Now that it is proven that water can be broken down by way of ionization he has no fight with me anymore as his whole wasted effort to prove to the world that is doesn't got proven wrong big time. I tried to warn him not to go up against me at this point in time as he had no idea just how far I have come on this technology. But always remember he went back on his word to donate to the cause as he is not willing to give up a few meals for a good cause.
Shalom,
TGS
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Guys, its getting boring this story, dont you think?
Let us focus on technology and not on persons?
Is that an option?
thanks
your host, Steve
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Guys, its getting boring this story, dont you think?
Let us focus on technology and not on persons?
Is that an option?
thanks
your host, Steve
I agree, sorry for the mess bro...
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Guys, its getting boring this story, dont you think?
Let us focus on technology and not on persons?
Is that an option?
thanks
your host, Steve
No it isn't Steve as the truth will out. This is the primary problem I identified with Open Source it is filled with a lot of one way people who's only true concern is for themselves and the rest of humanity be dammed. When I ask a lot of people in Open Source a question on what happens to all those people that can't build this technology for themselves you want to know what I was told most of the time? It sucks to be them. Yeah, that's what I was told by a whole lot of people in these Open Source forums. That lack of basic humanity leaves out people like my mother, sisters, anyone that is handicapped, mentally challenged, or disabled, and the poor which make up most of the worlds population the last time I checked. So just how are all of these people I just mentioned supposed to get this technology?
Sure the name "OPEN SOURCE" sounds good but in reality it's not all it's hyped up to be as it can not address the needs of the masses. The only way to get this technology to the masses is through mass production so that the prices can be driven down as like it or not this is the reality of the world we live in today. It will be companies like mines that answer the call of getting this technology out to the masses not these Open Source forums. But through these open source forums people like me are made out to be the enemy of the people when in fact the reverse is true. Just as Electrotek pointed out my crowdfunding campaign http://www.gofundme.com/energytothepeople has no support from the Open Source community and I thank YAH that bringing out this technology isn't up to them as if it was up to the Open Source community my company and others like it would be shut down.
You talk about looking at the big picture but in reality are totally unwilling to actually talk about and/or engage in a serious conversation about the big picture. Trust me I hear it all the time, don't support companies that try to make a profit on this technology, but ask yourselves how is the world to get this technology if companies like mine can't earn or raise enough funds to go into mass production? I've not run into many people in these forums that are capable of critical thinking of being able to understand just who these calls for none support actually benefit as they sure don't benefit you or I, correct? These calls for none support benefit those that are currently selling energy as it sure doesn't benefit you or I as they are the ones that are going to see their entire system of energy enslavement come crashing to the ground if companies like mines start to receive the support of the people. Open Source's failure to look at the big picture, in my view, is why the world doesn't have this technology. Companies like mines have been made to go it alone with next to zero support coming from the Open Source community as they are made up of people that live outside of the realities of our world. In fact the support I have gotten from the Open Source community has been a negative add campaign designed to take away the peoples support of the company and I wonder why that is? Open Source is like a bucket full of crabs with a few wolves in sheep's clothing tossed inside.
I know what I am saying isn't going to be taken well by most of you as the truth hurts and thus is hard to accept. Given the number of people in this one forum alone Sebosfato should have been able to get two of those differential probes by now as unlike me the negative add campaign hasn't gotten to him yet as he is still considered one of your friends. These are the hard truths most are unwilling to talk about as how did someone like me get turned into an enemy of the people just for opening up a company aimed at getting this technology out to the masses through mass production?
Shalom,
TGS
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Well, i dont like when people talk bad about other people under another name and go on bashing...Thats not nice in my eyes.
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Well, i dont like when people talk bad about other people under another name and go on bashing...Thats not nice in my eyes.
Oh really? Well, since we are correcting names here my name is Edward Mitchell as I am the owner of True Green Solution hence the name TGS and you will find that the thread with interview video of me has one "L" in my last name not two like it should be and electrotek is Jerry Volland on the heretical builders forum whom started an opposing thread to my thread here: http://www.hereticalbuilders.com/showthread.php?t=1019 and for the record he lost the argument as this technology is about ionization.
And for the record it's h2opower using all lower case letters as the one on the OU forum was a typeo. I now use TGS as my company's name is True Green Solutions abbreviated TGS get it? So change it back! Anyone can go to the web page and take a look at just who I am right here: http://www.truegreensolutions.net/index.php?p=1_17_Company-History
But one thing is clear you never addressed anything that I have said that actually matters. Since this is a truth telling session then why don't you tell the good people what you and the others put me through on this forum all those years ago? You treated me like crap then and you treat me like crap now as not much has changed has it? I bring up some very valid talking points and all you can do or say about it is to flex your muscles on your self given authority to change my user name but say nothing about the valid points I brought up.
I had to go to the 2013 Global BEM to get around all of the combined blockade all of these Open Source forums placed on me and guess what? it worked! I got to talk to those that can make a difference and some of them have been helping me out to make a difference as you saw just how much the correct wire cost and know this not a single one of you will be escaping that cost. Like I told you I have no idea just who raised the prices on these things to be so high but we must get what is needed for this technology to actually work as we simply can't get around it.
You might put on a good show here but I don't care for shows all that much as I care for the people that I will be helping get this technology in the future you know the ones that Open Source says, "It sucks to be them." But what do you care about? Will you tell the people what you and your friends did to me all those years ago? I look forwards to reading your response(s) on these matters.
Shalom,
TGS
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this technology is about ionization.
EVERY method of splitting water is based on, or produces, some form of ionization - according to science. There's your "talking point".
And here's another: ANY method which splits enough water to power an internal combustion engine allows a normal vehicle to be powered electrically.
And another: If you're going to claim OU, PROVE IT.
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When I say prove OU, I don't mean numerically, with who knows how many factors left out. I mean demonstrated gas production, with measured power input, compared to energy output, in the form of calorimetric measurement. Or a genset powering a load AND the hydroxy cell.
Also, just how are you planning to put this technology into the hands of "the little people", when your water cell alone costs well over $1,000? How do you expect someone like me to come up with that? And how much is the rest of it - the Gas Processor and all the control and driving circuits?
What is actually needed is something under a hundred bucks. Even if we still have to use 5 percent gasoline. I don't care if it's Meyer's system or not, just something which WORKS, which is affordable. THAT is what will end energy enslavement. Not your arguments about about how great your scientific understanding is, compared to everyone else in the world who is working on a solution to the energy problem.
When the solution is found, and Open Sourced, the auto companies themselves will take care of the distribution. Long before YOU can put a million of your systems on the market, the little guy will be able to buy his next used car incorporating a working system.
I really don't know what your angle is, claiming it has to be Meyer's system, and YOUR version at that.
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Well, i dont like when people talk bad about other people under another name and go on bashing...Thats not nice in my eyes.
Oh really? Well, since we are correcting names here my name is Edward Mitchell as I am the owner of True Green Solution hence the name TGS and you will find that the thread with interview video of me has one "L" in my last name not two like it should be and electrotek is Jerry Volland on the heretical builders forum whom started an opposing thread to my thread here: http://www.hereticalbuilders.com/showthread.php?t=1019 and for the record he lost the argument as this technology is about ionization.
And for the record it's h2opower using all lower case letters as the one on the OU forum was a typeo. I now use TGS as my company's name is True Green Solutions abbreviated TGS get it? So change it back! Anyone can go to the web page and take a look at just who I am right here: http://www.truegreensolutions.net/index.php?p=1_17_Company-History
But one thing is clear you never addressed anything that I have said that actually matters. Since this is a truth telling session then why don't you tell the good people what you and the others put me through on this forum all those years ago? You treated me like crap then and you treat me like crap now as not much has changed has it? I bring up some very valid talking points and all you can do or say about it is to flex your muscles on your self given authority to change my user name but say nothing about the valid points I brought up.
I had to go to the 2013 Global BEM to get around all of the combined blockade all of these Open Source forums placed on me and guess what? it worked! I got to talk to those that can make a difference and some of them have been helping me out to make a difference as you saw just how much the correct wire cost and know this not a single one of you will be escaping that cost. Like I told you I have no idea just who raised the prices on these things to be so high but we must get what is needed for this technology to actually work as we simply can't get around it.
You might put on a good show here but I don't care for shows all that much as I care for the people that I will be helping get this technology in the future you know the ones that Open Source says, "It sucks to be them." But what do you care about? Will you tell the people what you and your friends did to me all those years ago? I look forwards to reading your response(s) on these matters.
Shalom,
TGS
ok, Ed.
For once i will go with you on this.
My response?
Very simple. I do not care why people wants to join a forum or whatever open source medium.
I know that all types of people are there with their own reasons. Some just even for getting attention....
I totally do not care.
I just want to see this technology developed , so we can make a better world.
Idealistic? Yes. Is it wrong if people want to make money out of this? No. Market is big enough. And the more people push clean technology, the better.
We just need to get ride of polution in the world.
We do not take good care of nature. That matters.
So, again. If you are black or white, islam or christen or Jew. I dont care.
Rules here are known for years: respect for others on this forum and focus on the main topic, meaning development of clean technology.
Thats why so many people look everyday to see if something moved here.
Ed, you are getting too much distracted from your own targets by other people.
Thats my professional opinion. You have yr qualitys. Use them. Dont get frustrated by other people.
So, back to building, i would say... ;)
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Interesting replies,
I'd like my name changed back to TGS as it stands for True Green Solutions which are the first letters of my company's name. For the record I am not a of the Jewish race as they are a made up people that stole the identity of my people the true Hebrew Israelties of the bible as the bible is a history of my people not theirs. Ask yourselves this, if the letter "J" was invented in 1478 how can YAH's chosen people be called Jews when the bible is so much older?
Jerry can't read all that well from reading his responses as I told everyone quite clearly that in order to bring prices down I must go into mass production. Plus he doesn't seem to be able to listen to Meyer all that well also as Meyer said the automotive companies can produce cars that run on this technology already if they wanted too and that was way back in the 90's when he said it. But this technology is not one of their liking as there will be no more carbon build up, no need for catalytic converters, and a lot fewer oil changes as water simply doesn't mix with oil unlike gasoline or diesel does. So, from a business stand point they don't want this technology as it would hurt sales and maintenance revenues for the cars simply wouldn't be breaking down and needing maintenance at the same rate as they are right now.
Perhaps your right in that I let these fools get me all rallied up and should just ignore them but I get tired of their constant garbage talking and outright lies designed to get the people to think that I am lying to them before I even open my mouth. Like I said going to the Global BEM true purpose was to get around all of these people so I could talk to the people that can truly make a difference and I am happy to say it worked. I looked at most of the comments made on the thread where the interview video of me was posted and I can see mostly all negative comments as they thought they had beaten me and shut me down but there were all wrong as I made it through all of their blocking attempts.
As for getting back to building I will once the needed items that are being made for me right now are completed and in my possession so I can put them to good use. I hope to have what I need to keep on going on soon and know that I got little to no help from the Open Source community as they are still in prevent mode when it comes to me as they still feel they must block this guy (me) at all cost. But again I say just who is that benefiting when I am doing what I can to bring this technology out to the masses? Meyer said his conversion kits would cost about $3,000 USD now factor in all of the inflation from then to now and we can see just why prices of things have gone up. I'll do the best I can for the masses but if I never make it to mass production the prices will always be too high for most people to afford.
Now as for showing a working model I am one that learns from the mistakes of others and from what I have learned from viewing them doing so is that is not a good idea to follow in their footsteps. I gave you all the science and you are going to have to take it from there as that is as far as I am allowed to go and live to tell the tale. This is why your support of Sebosfato is a must as it looks like he too might be able to get at the science behind this technology and perhaps will show all of you a working model. But someone has already cut his break lines https://www.facebook.com/ajudeasalvaromundo/videos/1621626291388945/?__mref=message_bubble so he might just do as I am doing also as those that don't want this technology getting out to the masses are not joking around.
Shalom,
TGS
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I read that Meyer thought it would take an enormous research facility, and a long term, concerted effort for the car companies to be able to put his discovery into use. It wasn't something they "could already do".
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I read that Meyer thought it would take an enormous research facility, and a long term, concerted effort for the car companies to be able to put his discovery into use. It wasn't something they "could already do".
You know I'm tired of you constantly running behind me telling people that I am lying to them. Once again here is something to shut you up once again and prove that you are not someone that takes this technology seriously as well as not a man of your word as you wont and or can't even pay attention to what's being said in old videos such as this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qce4tk6R7eY
Sorry everyone but when you have a person that is hell bent on proving you wrong in just about all that you do you get post like this.
Shalom,
TGS
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All I did was say what I read. What's your problem? Are you denying his plans for the large research park? Have you been abused so much that you have BECOME an abuser?
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All I did was say what I read. What's your problem? Are you denying his plans for the large research park? Have you been abused so much that you have BECOME an abuser?
But from what I see you really can't read. I write something about what I need to do in order to bring the prices down and you turn right around and say how are you going to lower the prices down. I do wish you would have taken the time to finish up high school but I guess you had your reasons for not finishing. Anyway it would be nice to not have you shadowing me all the time as it is truly getting old now as how many times must I prove you wrong before you climb back under that rock from which you came from?
Just keep your word and donate to the cause as you promised you would do.
You talk a lot about going off topic on your threads and even threaten to place people under moderation if you had the power to do so if they don't comply to your wishes but seem to have no problem going off topic on someone else's thread. This thread is to help out a good person in need of help not about your hatred for me and constant attempts to make it look like I am lying to people.
Sebosfato needs our help not your constant never ending self created personal war with me. Do I make myself clear!
TGS
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I believe the big research and development center were not actually because the fuell cell was not ready for the market... in my opinion he had it working but needed to finish the design and legal issues... and the magnitude of that was related to this, several possible further developments and developments of products..
i would do the same... and is my also my plan... actually my plan is to keep stan plan or dream alive but get it worldwide...
in my opinion this technology is not only to one country.. or one pearson... this project will end wars... will end many of our today economy problems... in a very simple way..
but it needs to be very well controlled... as if we start using the water as source of hydrogen we could end up with our world.. for example if someone forget a fuell cell operating somewhere very deep in the ocean... all the hydrogen would go to the sideral space..
i mean this technology must be implemented in a way that water get not consumed otherwise we will have no aprooval..
no need to be greed..
I love to see how you both have this technology close to the heart...
i hope you hear your heart as it beats saying you should just fell all right.
lets make this music sound
lets make this project goes...
thanks to all for the suport
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I believe the big research and development center were not actually because the fuell cell was not ready for the market... in my opinion he had it working but needed to finish the design and legal issues... and the magnitude of that was related to this, several possible further developments and developments of products..
i would do the same... and is my also my plan... actually my plan is to keep stan plan or dream alive but get it worldwide...
in my opinion this technology is not only to one country.. or one pearson... this project will end wars... will end many of our today economy problems... in a very simple way..
but it needs to be very well controlled... as if we start using the water as source of hydrogen we could end up with our world.. for example if someone forget a fuell cell operating somewhere very deep in the ocean... all the hydrogen would go to the sideral space..
i mean this technology must be implemented in a way that water get not consumed otherwise we will have no aprooval..
no need to be greed..
I love to see how you both have this technology close to the heart...
i hope you hear your heart as it beats saying you should just fell all right.
lets make this music sound
lets make this project goes...
thanks to all for the suport
Thanks for discussing the actual subject matter. I think when Stan said the large research was needed it was because each type of car engine would need a different size of Injector, with its own resonance. What he "already had" wasn't plug-n-play ready. And I've also looked at a situation is which distant generations in our future will have used up all water on this planet, splitting it for energy. Stan's system might do that even if water put in is given back out, but there is also his cold fusion which depletes Hydrogen.
TGS: Do I make myself clear!
What is that, some kind of joke?
Why do you think I'm on this site? It's to provide help. And MONEY isn't the only kind of help - as I've plainly said. I certainly didn't come here to continue receiving your verbal abuse. Why did you say I didn't finish High School?
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I took that from your own words when you tried to compare yourself to that of Stanley Meyer http://www.hereticalbuilders.com/showpost.php?p=12862&postcount=144 and again I proved you to be incorrect as Meyer did finish high school and you don't really compare to him.
I went out of my way to build the things I have built learning everything I could about the technology through trial and error as that is what following the scientific method had me to do. I'd post the things that I learned new about the technology only to have you come behind me and tell people I was full of crap. If I had to guess I'd say your on the payroll of one of those companies that sells energy as you can't be this much against me and be for the technology at the same time.
I remember there was a question I answered by trial and error that most people seemed to disagree with me on. It was the question "Why did Stanley Meyer disconnect one of his resonant cavities in the exciter array that ran his dune buggy?" How I found out why he had to disconnect one of his resonant cavities was the same problem happened to me with my 12 resonant cavity set up. I noticed that where the positive and negative connections where hooked up would be the only ones producing gas and the rest of the array seemed to have gotten bypassed. So after a bit of critical thinking I figured out what was going on. Water is being used as a resistor in this technology and the combined space gaps of the array was greater than the space gap between the positive and negative resonant cavity connections. Since current will follow the path of least resistance the array got bypassed as a result. I don't know the water's resistance but I do know that it is directly proportional to the distance between the electrodes of the resonant cavity. Since they are hooked up in series all of the distances get added up to make up the waters total resistance in the system. The problem I ran into was the combined distance between the resonant cavities was greater than the distance between the positive and negative connections to the resonant cavities physical distance between each of these two resonant cavities so the current took the path of least resistance totally bypassing ten resonant cavities in the array as a result.
Meyer's solution was to disconnect one of the resonant cavities so that the physical distance between the resonant cavities hooked up the positive and negative connections was greater than the combined distances between the resonant cavities in the series array. My solution was different in that I just rewired the resonant cavities so that the positive and negative connected resonant cavities where 180 degrees apart from one another in my new circular design as the 12 resonant cavity design had other issues that required me to make a new design. But now we had an answer to the question of why did Meyer have to disconnect one of his resonant cavities as he did so to prevent the array from being bypassed as a result of a minor but significant over site of the design he was using as the proximity of the resonant cavities that were hooked up to the positive and negative connections distance was less than the combined distances of the space gaps of the series array as the current will follow the path of least resistance. Now this part of this post has nothing to do with you Jerry but to do with the contributions I have made to everyone on this technology, okay? I shared this information with everyone as Meyer had a design flaw in his 11 resonant cavity design that needed to be solved. I say this as I noticed that Sebosfato seems to have an 11 resonant cavity design and thus will have the same problem Meyer's had if it hooked all the resonant cavities in series just as Meyer did. My solution will allow you to use all 11 resonant cavities but since it is not a balanced design in that you can't split the resonant cavities equally you will have some unknowns to deal with that I don't have to as my exciter array has 10 resonant cavities thus I can split them equally five going one way and five going the other way placing the positive and negative connections 180 degrees apart from one another.
(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y320/h2opower/IMG_4508_zpsg7ic7m63.jpg) (http://s1025.photobucket.com/user/h2opower/media/IMG_4508_zpsg7ic7m63.jpg.html)
If you look closely you can see just how I wired the exciter arrays so that the positive and negative connections are 180 degrees apart from one another. This is my solution to the problem I had found as on top of being an okay scientist I am also a good problem solver. So for all those that have replicated Meyer's cell you can know why Meyer had to disconnect one of his resonant cavities and know the two solutions that were and are being implemented to solve this problem, one from Meyer and the other from me. Again Jerry this isn't talking about you as you don't have a cell from which to test with but if you do make or get a cell then now you have a bit more understanding about them. So, Sebosfato you might have to rewire your exciter array so that you don't run into this problem also.
I remember sharing this with people before but the Naysayers would always come in to tell people not to listen to me. This is a clear example of why making use of the scientific method, having good observational skills, and having good problem solving abilities is very important towards solving this technology.
Now since Jerry isn't going to keep his word and donate to the cause I hope someone out there reading this will help Sebosfato get this differential probe as it is needed to aid one in solving this technology and again the reason why I know this is by way of trial and error. So, please help him get the tools he needs as this is for a good cause for we are trying to put an end to this system of energy enslavement we are all trapped in right now.
Shalom,
TGS
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h2opower,
My exact words were: "Like Meyer, I'm not a man of science; I'm only an Inventor". I never said anything about ME not finishing High School. In reality, I graduated near the top of my class, a member of the High Distinction Honor Roll, nationwide. I was also the youngest member of my graduating class - by far - since I was previously allowed to skip the sixth grade, after being given a two day IQ test, by the school's psychiatrist - Dr. Perry. NEVER AGAIN insult me by saying I didn't finish High School.
Also, quit twisting my words around, from "I refuse to use pay pal" to claiming I gave my word to open my OWN pay pal account.
And you are correct that I don't have an exciter cell. If you think back, this hate war of 'yours' started when I said that your verbal abuse wasn't going to inspire anyone to do anything except start a competing thread. You're working with the Water Cell, so I'm working with the Injector. Get it? Not 'sworn enemies', but competitors, each working to "bring the technology out". Except YOU are not willing to 'die for science'. Which one of us do you think will be first to SHOW an engine running on water?
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yes electrotek he needed to design for every type of aplication... i agree... but not sure if was not just the case to miniaturize and apply... anyway..
the exciter idea to get the connection 180 apart is good..i also though of that...and tried..this is a technic for winding toroidal inductors with the minimum capacitance possible ..you had the right feeling..
i´m not sure how he had his cells connected..a picture for me is almost not worth copying...
the problem you had is probably related to the water being tap water.. that made you see it...
i believe the cells could also be connected antiparallels... so all cells will see the same potential...
i constructed the 11 cell together with very good machinists and i tell you i would try putting 12 cells into it... because the probability of one going wrong in the machining process is high... luckly mine was done with perfection... maybe meyer had a 1 cell that was out of order... who knows..
i have another idea to simply impeed the water channel between the positive and negative electrode.. this should be enough to impeed the water leaking current.. .a piece of rubber..
i noticed that in one experiment i did with 4 cells in series and only the first would come some bubbles out... i atributed this to the high voltage present... its the only thing strange i saw with 40 50kv..
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h2opower,
My exact words were: "Like Meyer, I'm not a man of science; I'm only an Inventor". I never said anything about ME not finishing High School. In reality, I graduated near the top of my class, a member of the High Distinction Honor Roll, nationwide. I was also the youngest member of my graduating class - by far - since I was previously allowed to skip the sixth grade, after being given a two day IQ test, by the school's psychiatrist - Dr. Perry. NEVER AGAIN insult me by saying I didn't finish High School.
Also, quit twisting my words around, from "I refuse to use pay pal" to claiming I gave my word to open my OWN pay pal account.
And you are correct that I don't have an exciter cell. If you think back, this hate war of 'yours' started when I said that your verbal abuse wasn't going to inspire anyone to do anything except start a competing thread. You're working with the Water Cell, so I'm working with the Injector. Get it? Not 'sworn enemies', but competitors, each working to "bring the technology out". Except YOU are not willing to 'die for science'. Which one of us do you think will be first to SHOW an engine running on water?
I apologize for assuming you hadn't finished high school but from the way it reads it does suggest that you didn't.
If you are my competitor you are so far behind that I need not be worried as you simply can't afford this technology. Each of the injectors cost around $2,000 to make and if you are lucky a little over $1,000 and you think the exciter array is expensive at $1630 dollars try running a 350 Chevy engine which will need 8 injectors. Until you go into mass production the prices will remain very high, hmm... does that sound familiar? You are not a competitor of mines but of Max Miller if this is your aim and again I'd say to you that you are so far behind good luck catching up to him.
As for you thread it was aimed solely at telling the world that this technology had nothing to do with ionization in an attempt to discredit me. You lost that fight did you not? Here you are telling me that Meyer's technology has nothing to do with ionization: http://www.hereticalbuilders.com/showpost.php?p=12761&postcount=110 But now we all know differently do we not? Ionization is what this technology is all about as the water molecules can be separated into hydrogen and oxygen gas atoms by way of ionization just like I have been telling everyone since 2013 and even before then if I recall correctly as I have been talking about ionization since 2008. This is not an easy technology to figure out as it has a lot of original ideas in it which means to the laymen that you can't look up some things concerning this technology in a book as they haven't been written about yet.
To me you will always be that one Naysayer that seems to be working for the enemy as you can't be on and for both sides. Your constant arguments that try and make it look like I am not telling people the truth to everyone didn't work as science proved me to be correct. The photosynthesis was just too complex for most to understand but the other on thunderstorms people can grasp how ionization can take apart the water molecules, that is to say break the bonds of the water molecules as they are one in the same. I have given a lot to help people understand this technology and even given my money to a person in need more than once. I can remember you telling everyone that you would in no way shape or form aid me in any way and thus you are to be a thorn in my side along the way to success as that will remove you from my side once and for all.
As for the Paypal account just create one get the transaction done and take the Paypal account down this way you can honor your word to Sebosfato as for him to get the differential probe it's going to take money and not just words from you as your words can't be redeemed for a cash value. You gave your word that you would match my donation which was $50 USD how you do this is up to you. I am in fact willing to help. If you donate $20 so will I. How much chance is there that anyone else will also? MONEY isn't the only form of help. I'll spend some time and find a schematic and other information. Even donate for the build. A BUILD may be his only realistic option.
But I didn't donate $20 I donated $50 but those are your words are they not? Thus far you haven't honored your words and have just made a lot of noise about why you can't donate to him. These words of yours have no cash value and thus can not be used in support of this thread's mission.
As for when this war of your making started it was all due to this post was it not?:
I guess you seem lonely is why you keep trying to get me to post in this thread you started into some sort of a worthless argument with you.
You are an enemy to me but now you wish to capitulate in telling everyone that you are a friend to me and to the technology. Like most of your kind all you really know is how to fight for as a group your kind has been doing that for a very long time now. You get jealous of what others have and/or are doing and like a spoiled child throw a fit as it just isn't fair from your point of view. My statement upset you due to these facts did it not? I told the truth of what I see others doing in the many places I go in search of someone duplicating the results I showed at the 2013 Global BEM but all of my searches come up empty. That statement is one of me viewing the world and seeing no results anywhere near to what I have been willing to show everyone. Since I tend to see things for how they really are and not how I want them to be I made the call as I saw it and offered my help to get people back in the game. Again that action upset you as in your view of the technology these results I have been showing are completely unnecessary as I have it all wrong and in this thread you started you are going to prove it, am I correct in my thinking about this so far?
This everyone is the post that has gotten him all upset:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqpPi8wNed8&feature=youtu.be (http://"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqpPi8wNed8&feature=youtu.be")
This video shows more on standing waves and a whole lot more but we want to focus on standing waves. Standing waves aid the process and are talked about in section 8. Most people simple avoid that section as it talks about a lot of concepts that are way over their heads. Meyer simply calls dealing with standing wave and LCR resonances "Resonant Action."
All of this goes towards the resonant cavity's & VIC transformer's design and the corresponding LCR and Standing Wave frequencies that go with those designs. The whole movement suffered greatly due to the lack of standardization. Each new design of exciter array and VIC transformers to be used on them dreamed up had it's very own LCR values and corresponding Standing Wave frequencies. This problem made it so no one could work together as no one could compare their results with another.
Our attempts, Bussi and I, to bring standardization to the movement was and still is being met with great resistance from those in the movement calling themselves leaders. When I posted an exciter array to be used so we could all standardize our efforts on getting this technology working all should have jumped into action on the idea. Bussi put in a lot of effort to give us all standardized pulsing circuits to make use of and still the value of what we are doing seems to have eluded everyone. I could have even given everyone the exact specs on the VIC transformers but the nay Sawyer's have won in my book as only a small few have the exciter arrays from which to make use of.
Now I am on section 8 and everyone else is basically on section 3 and as a result now when I talk it makes no sense to anyone as they have fallen too far behind.
The tools needed to get back in the game are as follows:
[LIST=1]
[*]Get the exciter array.
[*]Get the pulsing circuit.
[*]Attain a spectrum analyzer and hydrophone mic.
[*]Acquire a set of deferential probes 15-30kv rating.
[*]Acquire a 0-200 volt DC power supply.
[*]Get an oscilloscope.
[*]Have an ohm or multi meter handy or acquire one.
[*]Acquire an LC or LRC meter.
[*]Get a good soldering iron.
[*]And if I left anything out please feel free to add them to the list.
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Now all of you can see just how far you have allowed yourselves to fall behind in this technology as this is what it takes to get back in the game. Without standardization it makes it very hard to compare notes as this technology is very complex. Each resonant cavity must be built the same, spaced the same distance apart, and be driven by the same type of VIC transformer(s). Any changes to these parts of the technology makes it practically impossible to compare notes effectively. If you want back in the game now you know just what you need to do.
I can help you but first you must attain the things needed to get back in the game for if not then you are on your own as almost nothing I say will make much sense to you as you have all have simply fallen very far behind now.
Take care and I hope to have all of you back in the game soon :).
h2opower
And again I say this is me running many searches on the net looking for anyone that seems to be getting the results I showed at the 2013 Global BEM and finding nothing remotely close to what I showed in Boulder, Colorado. And to add insult to injury I have advanced much since then and again you don't like that for some reason. This whole thread you started is based on your going to show me that you knew all a long how to build Meyer's technology but until now you could careless about the fate of your fellow man. In this thread you are going to show the world that I have basically wasted 8 plus years of my life working on this technology as you can get it done in just a few months time. But if you can then why haven't you done so already given the condition this energy enslavement method has left everyone in the world in? Don't you care?
In my many dealings with Open Source I have come to realize one truth about it. They are for the one half of one percent of the worlds population that can build this technology for themselves and for those who can't build it for themselves regardless of the reasons they say, "It sucks to be you." Well, I have good news for everyone as I am for this population they leave out to dry and will do what I can to put all of you in full control of your own energy needs. It's not going to be an easy task as I have all of this negativity to push through and lets not forget all of those that are currently selling energy right now as they really don't want this technology to see the light of day.
You see people like Jerry have no idea of the task at hand for they never sat down to crunch the numbers. Let me give you all an example of what I am talking about;
In the state of California there are roughly 32 million cars registers to be on the road. Now at a rate of one million conversions per year it would take me 32 years to get the task done. Now this example excludes all off road vehicles like forklifts, farm equipment,..., etc. and it is only talking about one state of the USA and also note it assumes no growth. Can you all see the task at hand now? This is not going to be a easy task as it is going to take many years to complete and people as old as Jerry and I more than likely will not live to see the day the world is on a technology such as this.
This folks is my view of the task at hand as I take the time to actually run the numbers.
Jerry I will confess I have no idea about this ball lightening you are trying to push but now having a working mathematical prediction model based on real experiments following Meyer's technology I can say with a fairly high percentage that what ever you are doing is totally unlike what Stanley A. Meyer was doing. Now can you give all of us here a rough estimate of just how long it is going to take you to get to the point of show everyone a working model?
It seems what ever Aaron has is contagious and in all of your dealings with him you contracted a bit of what he has. I wonder if there is a cure for this? In my many dealings with Aaron we fought with two different theories on how this water for fuel technology actually works and in the many years that have followed since then his "Nitrogen Theory" has completely failed to produce any results that look at all similar to the work of Stanley A. Meyer. I feel this will be the same fate as this new theory you have but just like with Aaron only time will tell. Now when it comes to the theories I have my results look just like what Meyer shows in his patents and talks about in his many lecture videos. I have a high voltage potential being placed on the water via the resonant cavities and at the same time I am restricting the current flow to the milliamp range. Meyer also states in a few of his patents that it takes a minimum of 1kv per resonate cavity to get this ionization effect to start. I have come close being able to reach roughly 920 volts per resonant cavity but still have fallen short of the 1kv plus voltage Meyer says it needed to make this technology work correctly.
Now that I have a mathematical model from which to work from I can tweak parts of this technology to get the voltages up that haven't worked on before. If I was to give an estimate of my efforts I'd say about three months or so given the shipping times and number of experiments I can run to solve the current problems I am facing. But this is assuming I don't run into another unforeseen problem I haven't prepared for and have to learn too overcome.
Adding Aaron's theory we now have three totally different theories making the same prediction and the general rule of thumb is only one of them is going to pan out. As for me I have shown a lot of my efforts already and they seem to be in accordance with what Meyer shows in his patents and talks about in his lecture videos. "WE" are all waiting to see some good results from you. Best of luck on your efforts.
h2opower
P.S. Stop trying to bate me into getting into a pointless argument with you as you will not see me making any post with your name in them trying to do the same. You have a lot of work to do so show us you are up for the challenge and lest see some of your work and not all of this attempts to get me into a pointless argument with you. And in the future if you feel lonely say nothing until you have something of value you wish to share for we all know these things take time to solve, though you did make it seem as if you would have it solved within 6 months or so.
So now practically all the information is out in the open for all to see. I am not a liar and have been helping people understand this technology as I learned it. I am not perfect and do make mistakes but if I didn't make mistakes I wouldn't be human. The use of the scientific method is failing to learn as we learn most from our failures as we go about learning how to ask the right questions.
Shalom,
TGS
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h2opower,
My exact words were: "Like Meyer, I'm not a man of science; I'm only an Inventor". I never said anything about ME not finishing High School. In reality, I graduated near the top of my class, a member of the High Distinction Honor Roll, nationwide. I was also the youngest member of my graduating class - by far - since I was previously allowed to skip the sixth grade, after being given a two day IQ test, by the school's psychiatrist - Dr. Perry. NEVER AGAIN insult me by saying I didn't finish High School.
Also, quit twisting my words around, from "I refuse to use pay pal" to claiming I gave my word to open my OWN pay pal account.
And you are correct that I don't have an exciter cell. If you think back, this hate war of 'yours' started when I said that your verbal abuse wasn't going to inspire anyone to do anything except start a competing thread. You're working with the Water Cell, so I'm working with the Injector. Get it? Not 'sworn enemies', but competitors, each working to "bring the technology out". Except YOU are not willing to 'die for science'. Which one of us do you think will be first to SHOW an engine running on water?
I apologize for assuming you hadn't finished high school but from the way it reads it does suggest that you didn't.
If you are my competitor you are so far behind that I need not be worried as you simply can't afford this technology. Each of the injectors cost around $2,000 to make and if you are lucky a little over $1,000 and you think the exciter array is expensive at $1630 dollars try running a 350 Chevy engine which will need 8 injectors. Until you go into mass production the prices will remain very high, hmm... does that sound familiar? You are not a competitor of mines but of Max Miller if this is your aim and again I'd say to you that you are so far behind good luck catching up to him.
As for you thread it was aimed solely at telling the world that this technology had nothing to do with ionization in an attempt to discredit me. You lost that fight did you not? Here you are telling me that Meyer's technology has nothing to do with ionization: http://www.hereticalbuilders.com/showpost.php?p=12761&postcount=110 But now we all know differently do we not? Ionization is what this technology is all about as the water molecules can be separated into hydrogen and oxygen gas atoms by way of ionization just like I have been telling everyone since 2013 and even before then if I recall correctly as I have been talking about ionization since 2008. This is not an easy technology to figure out as it has a lot of original ideas in it which means to the laymen that you can't look up some things concerning this technology in a book as they haven't been written about yet.
To me you will always be that one Naysayer that seems to be working for the enemy as you can't be on and for both sides. Your constant arguments that try and make it look like I am not telling people the truth to everyone didn't work as science proved me to be correct. The photosynthesis was just too complex for most to understand but the other on thunderstorms people can grasp how ionization can take apart the water molecules, that is to say break the bonds of the water molecules as they are one in the same. I have given a lot to help people understand this technology and even given my money to a person in need more than once. I can remember you telling everyone that you would in no way shape or form aid me in any way and thus you are to be a thorn in my side along the way to success as that will remove you from my side once and for all.
As for the Paypal account just create one get the transaction done and take the Paypal account down this way you can honor your word to Sebosfato as for him to get the differential probe it's going to take money and not just words from you as your words can't be redeemed for a cash value. You gave your word that you would match my donation which was $50 USD how you do this is up to you. I am in fact willing to help. If you donate $20 so will I. How much chance is there that anyone else will also? MONEY isn't the only form of help. I'll spend some time and find a schematic and other information. Even donate for the build. A BUILD may be his only realistic option.
But I didn't donate $20 I donated $50 but those are your words are they not? Thus far you haven't honored your words and have just made a lot of noise about why you can't donate to him. These words of yours have no cash value and thus can not be used in support of this thread's mission.
As for when this war of your making started it was all due to this post was it not? This everyone is the post that has gotten him all upset:
http://www.hereticalbuilders.com/showpost.php?p=12522&postcount=29
As in this post he didn't like some of the things I had to say.
I am not a liar and have been telling people the truth about this technology. Sure I make mistakes but that's what makes us human as let the man with no mistakes pick up the first stone and toss it in my direction. In fact the scientific method is designed so that we learn from our failures as that is truly how we learn things most of the time I just had to learn how to ask the right questions and the scientific method aided me in that quest.
Shalom,
TGS
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If the applied signal is at 90 degrees, quadrature, time wise, shouldn't the connections also be at 90 degrees, space wise? Similar to the rotating field static capacitor. Meyer's Hydrogen Production patent states that the electric field in the cell rotates.
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I can remember you telling everyone that you would in no way shape or form aid me in any way and thus you are to be a thorn in my side along the way to success as that will remove you from my side once and for all.
I didn't say that at all. In fact, even you admitted I helped you with my discussion about how to wind a choke. You even said you copied my post in it's entirety, "giving credit where credit is due".
I also showed you how to bring your costs down, with my post about hybrid electrochemical erosion, for polishing the electrode tubes, easily and quickly. I said "Anyone who is considering manufacturing a large number of Exciter Arrays should consider this information".
Then YOU turned around and said you would not accept my help in any way. You're twisting things around again.
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yes electrotek he needed to design for every type of aplication... i agree... but not sure if was not just the case to miniaturize and apply... anyway..
the exciter idea to get the connection 180 apart is good..i also though of that...and tried..this is a technic for winding toroidal inductors with the minimum capacitance possible ..you had the right feeling..
i´m not sure how he had his cells connected..a picture for me is almost not worth copying...
the problem you had is probably related to the water being tap water.. that made you see it...
i believe the cells could also be connected antiparallels... so all cells will see the same potential...
i constructed the 11 cell together with very good machinists and i tell you i would try putting 12 cells into it... because the probability of one going wrong in the machining process is high... luckly mine was done with perfection... maybe meyer had a 1 cell that was out of order... who knows..
i have another idea to simply impeed the water channel between the positive and negative electrode.. this should be enough to impeed the water leaking current.. .a piece of rubber..
i noticed that in one experiment i did with 4 cells in series and only the first would come some bubbles out... i atributed this to the high voltage present... its the only thing strange i saw with 40 50kv..
I only said what I said to help you learn from my experience if you choose not to that is totally up to you. I just tried to point out to you that water is part of the circuit in the form of resistance in the isolated side of the VIC transformer and the current will follow the path of least resistance.
This is another attempt to tell the same story visually as I know English is not your primary language.
This underscore dash ___ represents the space inside of a resonant cavity and the water's resistance is directly related to this distance.
For 11 resonant cavities it would give you a total of this distance when they are all wired up in series
_________________________________________ . Now the space between adjacent resonant cavities in the exciter array is equal to this
_______________________ . Now since the water's resistance is directly tied to the distance it has to travel which of the two lines will give you the least amount of resistance? The line representing the distance between adjacent resonant cavities correct? Since current will take the path of least resistance the current needed to charge the capacitors will only be going to resonant cavities numbers 1 and 11 in the circular design if they are all hooked up in series and the positive in on number 1 and the negative in on number 11. Can you see what I am talking about now?
Meyer's solution to this problem was to disconnect one of the resonant cavities thus providing more physical distance between the positive and negative connected resonant cavities and my solution was to rewire the series array so that the positive and negative connected resonant cavities were 180 degrees apart from one another. Now if you don't want my help just say so as I have no problems with you telling me, "Thanks Ed for the donation but I will take it from here." Trust me it won't come as a surprise to me if that is your decision and know that I will honor it.
Shalom,
TGS
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yes tgs, i see what you talking about.. and i´m thankfull to your ideas and donation... i just meant i have other ideas too and i tried that too...
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I can remember you telling everyone that you would in no way shape or form aid me in any way and thus you are to be a thorn in my side along the way to success as that will remove you from my side once and for all.
I didn't say that at all. In fact, even you admitted I helped you with my discussion about how to wind a choke. You even said you copied my post in it's entirety, "giving credit where credit is due".
I also showed you how to bring your costs down, with my post about hybrid electrochemical erosion, for polishing the electrode tubes, easily and quickly. I said "Anyone who is considering manufacturing a large number of Exciter Arrays should consider this information".
Then YOU turned around and said you would not accept my help in any way. You're twisting things around again.
The only one that taught me how to wire up the chokes correctly is me as I sat down for a week and wired up the chokes in ever which way I could until I got the correct looking waveform as shown here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-z64pt50UM and due note the date I uploaded this video as it is before I went to the 2013 Global BEM by almost a year so you can knock off the lies about you helping me learn how to wire up the VIC transformer in any way shape or form. You have only been thorn in my side since you didn't like me trying to help people to get the same results I was getting from which the manor I was doing it in. I learn how to wire up the VIC transformers by way of trial and error same as I have always done. The true reason why your advice was rejected is you have never had a cell from which to work with which meant all that you were talking about was something purely made up in your mind as you have no real hands on experience with this technology.
And for the record this is how to wire up the VIC transformers:
(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y320/h2opower/VICtransformerwiringwithcurrentflowarrows_zps041554e6.png) (http://s1025.photobucket.com/user/h2opower/media/VICtransformerwiringwithcurrentflowarrows_zps041554e6.png.html)
And I figured this out by way of trial and error through actual hands on experimentation with no help from anybody. When it was all said and done I went looking to see if anyone else had it hooked up like this and found out that Don Gable had it hooked up like this, but that was after I ran all of these different experiments trying to figure out just how these VIC transformers were to be hooked up.
(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y320/h2opower/4-23-20119_45_49AM_zpsa492807e.jpg) (http://s1025.photobucket.com/user/h2opower/media/4-23-20119_45_49AM_zpsa492807e.jpg.html)
So Jerry go tell another one.
TGS
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I didn't tell you how to wire up the chokes; I told you what the words 'bidirectional winding' mean.
You were showing that it meant winding a layer at an extreme angle to the left, then the next layer at an angle to the right. I suppose this message was 'cleaned up' from your thread, like every other message I posted there?
Your attitude is getting very tiring. I'm going back to not reading your messages. I have things to DO, besides just talking.
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This forum is my last stop on my way out of the 'chatter class'. I've already signed off at the Builders' site. I promised Sebosfato that I would help him by finding a circuit for a differential probe amp, since I consider it unlikely he'll raise enough funds to buy such a probe outright. Don't know how long I'll hang around after that. I appreciate people asking me to stay, but I just don't see the Internet getting me where I need to be.
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I went back and read most of the post on my private thread on the heretical builders site and can say I feel about the same now as I did back then. I can't share my work with anyone as they simply aren't running experiments in a like manor. When I share actually experimental observations and data they think it's just an idea. I really can't count how many experiments I have done but it sure was a long and lonely road to get to where I am at today as I just couldn't get anyone to share the workload.
Sorry we ended on such sour terms Jerry but I tried to warn you as I stopped sharing everything some time ago as I was simply talking to myself most of the time when I shared my results of the many experiments I was running. Not much has changed as I am running experiments on things people aren't even aware of let alone gotten to the point where they can talk about it. Basically I kept driving on wards and left everyone behind as I simply didn't feel like stopping. Like I said it was an interesting read going into the past as a lot of the same things I faced then I am still facing today in that no one seems remotely willing to follow my work to this day. I would still post things from time to time if I found something important out but for the most part I can see that back in 2013 I practically stopped most of my sharing. I focused all of my time into sharing all that I had learned at the 2013 Global BEM but again that too seemed to be done in vane as when I read post after post of people hatting on me and not talking about putting such a high voltage to a water bath something inside of me simply gave up on these Open Source forums. Too many aren't doing anything but sitting on their butts and being arm chair scientist that never make it to the lab to do some actual work that they could observe.
When I took a look at a little of Sebosfato's efforts I thought just maybe I had found someone that is willing to share the work load and all I had to do was make sure he had the same equipment as I was using so we could share results. I still have hope but I can see that I bent his feelings out of shape like I tend to do most people as I have little tolerance for guess work and results that can't be proven correctly. But like I said I have hope that finally I can have someone to share my work with if and only if he is allowed to get this differential probe and start seeing the same things that I am seeing. Will the people of Open Source help out a friend in need? We shall see as time goes on. I hope that people will dig deep and give him a helping hand as it is for a good cause.
You take care of yourself Jerry for you know as well as I know this nation isn't in the best shape right now as things are starting to go down hill now.
Shabbat Shalom,
TGS
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Hey guys :) It sure is nice to have been gone for a while and come back to see a few familar names and a new one or two....you'll see me logged in as im gonna try and read a while and get caught up to where everyone is at... just wanted to say hey and I hope from just the few things ive read allready that EVERYONE stays and give it a little longer :)
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Good to see you around..
good vibrations :)
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We are getting there my friends... this is a picture behind the cameras of the crowdfunding film we are making... hope you enjoy
Just remembering we are only at 10% of the goal...that will help me to get a differential probe that will end up costing to arrive here in Brazil up to 1000$... the dollar keep increasing... in the last month more than 25%..
so please if you like what you see, if you can be of any help i would really apreciate.
after many battles in this thread i think was necessary to recapitulate that
when my goal is achieved i will release to who donated my new adds to the pll circuit as a counter part and of course any contact we have will reinforce our relashionship and so will make we closer.
I have a theory behind the scenes that i´m working on... and if it work no one will be left behind.. but of course those who are closer will be first to see it...
some of the modifications to my already open sourced pll circuit are
feedback will work making it lock at the highest voltage... two modes
safety logic added to impeed transistors to burn due to fail in switching between freq ranges
same logic will probably allow gating maintaining lock (currently working on)
hint for unbreakable switch to get very high power to the vic if wanted... long lasting operation stable without burning expensive components..
thanks a lot guys i know you wont left me behind too!
for donating https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donations&business=sebosfato%40gmail%2ecom&lc=US&item_name=Sebosfato%20Probe%20Crowdfunding&item_number=1¤cy_code=USD&bn=PP%2dDonationsBF%3abtn_donateCC_LG%2egif%3aNonHosted
any question please do ask
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Any new donations or are you still at $107?
Shalom,
TGS
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yes man still... i already spent more and more on parts last two weeks... but what is for the probe is there reserved.. to you see how things goes here.. some friend are helping get it over the facebook but it seems to block it... evil company..
Best Regards
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it seems now the pll locks in auto mode and while gating and changing the frequency of the gate... very interesting effect...
the pulse width must be fine tuned for the lock to occur... and will work around this frequency... if going out of lock ajusting the gate width locks again... aways more than 60% dutycycle... and the higher the frequency
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a friend here in brazil donated 100 reais... so now we get something around 130$ reseverd for getting the probe...
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Very nice!
People, please donate some money to Sebosfato!
Its worth it.
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we got anther 170 reaiis from another friend... now we have aproximately 170$ to get the probe..
please help if you can! is not so far anymore..
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Hello guys i ordered the probe as i reached half the money necessary partially by donations partially by money that came from selling some old equipment i had... i had to pay already 501 dollars for the equipment plus shipping but when it arrives its going to cost more or less 400$ to take the equipment out of costumes because of the importing taxes..
I still not have this money and the equipment is arriving by the end of the week or at the next week... so i ask if you can donate this money for me i can give you the following counterpart
my designed vic board design and board design for the fracture cell circuit... for who donate 75$
for who donate 200$ i will write a document about how to make the transistors almost unbreakable for doing real high voltage short pulsing... + the previous bonus...
for who donate 600$ i will send a working vic board with all components...
for who donate 1000$ i will send a very special gift!
Notice the money will be used also for the next development steps we are taking... like getting also a new high freq oscilloscope and the necessary equipments to interface with the electronics...
thanks all for all the support
for donations please use this link from paypal its completely safe:
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donations&business=sebosfato%40gmail.com&lc=BR&item_name=Sebosfato+Probe+Crowdfunding&item_number=1&no_note=0¤cy_code=BRL&bn=PP-DonationsBF%3Abtn_donateCC_LG.gif%3ANonHostedGuest
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This is the board for the fracture cell replication... is one of things that you get donating!
its basically a circuit that creates pulses alternating but you can control their pulse width so there is a dead time between the application of each pulse... for that there is a logic created with and gates not gates and my frequency generators... and a 4013 dividing the freq by two... the output of the counter would need to be ored to be equal to the claimed signal in the patents.. there is where i´m investigating... and why i made the freq ranges wider..
i started to use the lm 318 for my frequency generator that has the ability to change the pulse width without messing around with the frequency... i just needed to addd a resistor from pin two of the 555 to the input of the opamp... otherwise would not work..
its fundamental that the frequency part work ok otherwise you burn you outputs transistors which are expensive ...
thats why i created this board.. to take it out from protoboard where i first tested it... to many gliches..
Please donate friends... i´m creating lots of things with my time and i will be sharing with you that donate something!
donate also for this great forum.. we all should help it keep alive!
thanks again to all
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I´m finishing this wonderfull circuit....
i´m also going to add a half bridge to the output as its signal is exactly perfect for it.... as with it we can perfectly have a dead time between each pulse...
its getting big, i used a piece of cpu case for its case.... very beautiful design
i may need to buy some more components as the transformers will be pulsing into each other making the primary crazy signals,,, so i need to provide some safety....
i plan to make a clamp winding with a full wave bridge rectfier in such a manner that it can clamp and protect the igbo from damage voltages... if anything go wrong than there will be varistors and tvs above this restoring clampage voltage... to avoid any breakdown of the switch...
this is the best way i could thought to have bipolar protection on the whatever winding of the core... the only side effects is that its peak voltage is directly related to the input voltage,.... that depend on the design... its desirable that the clamp voltage is the first you chose in terms of number of turn so that all the other turn relations are multiple of it...
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Hey my probe is already in Brazil held at the costumes...
i´m waiting for the post office ask me to go there to receive it.. unfortunately i still not have the money to do it.. so i´m going to contract some debt... so i can pay it for now.... hopefully i never use my credit...
Really hope good for the donations..
just click the link and be nice!
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donations&business=sebosfato%40gmail.com&lc=BR&item_name=Sebosfato+Probe+Crowdfunding&item_number=1&no_note=0¤cy_code=BRL&bn=PP-DonationsBF%3Abtn_donateCC_LG.gif%3ANonHostedGuest%EF%BF%BD
thanks a lot!
by the way the fracture cell circuit i´m constructing because i want a source of positive high voltage and a source of negative high voltage... this way i can apply whatever frequency and i will be applying high voltage, independent of resonance... so hopefully i can see the effect...
i mean because out of resonance my vic produces high voltage only in one way.. on the other way its not very high... (during pulse on)
so i will feed one transformer into the other and alternate its pulses...
https://instagram.com/fabiotorturella/
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I´m really not satisfied with the viewing in my oscilloscope... today i went to a place to make fix my multimeter (it burned some internal resistors) and there was some digital oscilloscopes in off price if i bring an old equipment in exchange... i will try to get a digital oscilloscope than...
The so waited probe is now at the status of apprehended and i won't see it much soon.... they have 60 days to tell me how much tax i will have to pay so i can take it out... hope it won't take so long...
terrible not only two years expecting to have the chance to get it ... more 2 months of not having the money and now that...
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i would like to tell you that i just got a nice digital 60MHz oscilloscope minipa M0 2062... it has a raise time of 6ns the minimum division is 1ns and the maximum division 50s
i payed something like 550$ hope it helps seeing the waves better... it has some math functions, and 200x and 2000x atenuation for the probe. also it measure the values of waveforms automatic like frequency and duty, pulse lengh max min voltages... current if a probe is used... and the only thing i miss is the ability to triger from the both channels which my analog osciloscope does... it has the auto anyway;;;
i used as part of the payment that blue historic multimeter icel that you see in my old videos... it was completely carbonized inside...
also bad news from my multimeter that wentt to repair... it carbonized inside too.... so no garantie...as i´m buing the oscope with them i´m hoping they try to repair just the burned components... and see if it come back alive...
i´m going to open my old oscilloscope and try to increase the accelerating voltage such that the intensity gets higher... for better viewing...
many things to do.....
probe still not in my hands... (update today maybe it will be liberated)
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best regards to all
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So thanks a lot to you all that donated and you that didn't. You helping, were really less than 10 people, few but without you i could not get this far... from donations i got around 700 reais... at total i have spend over 5k reais into this oscilloscope and probe... i just did that because i succeeded into selling some old equipment i had here received also as kind of donation... (let me put in this way)
for i´m thankfull i will share some of what i promised only to who donate but will also share somethings here on public... so if you still want to donate you can do it because you want without pressure... sorry if i pushed... i needed to know who i can count with and
My lab thanks to luck and my hard work and your help now have
Laview cdaq monitoring the power input and frequencies...
20Mhz analog oscilloscope..
60Mhz digital oscilloscope
50Mhz 30kv diferential probe
40kv probe 1000/1
My hand made lathe and milling machine...
11 cell resonant cavity
vics
vics under oil
two variable power supplies heavy duty build by me
my pll circuit and fracture cell ckt working...
and many other stuff
if you want to help you can see that i do it for real but even if you help monetarelly or inspirationally i would prefere that you also do your research... don't left all in my hands ;D
Thank you all Folks !!!!!
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the probe just arrived i just re readed the manual and realized that it can measure 30kvp-p and it has only +- 10k insulation betweebn each input and ground... what this mean?
i think i will try to buy another multimeter and another probe 1000:1 40kv equal to the one i have so i can monitor both inputs an dont make this one burn...
The probe costed me a total of 501 dollars plus 60% of taxes so something like 800$ in the end... i reveived less than 200$ or donation... and i also manneged to buy an oscilloscope =D i´m happy and ready to play...
i´m thinking of protecting the inputs of the probe with extra tvs to ground to avoid any overvoltage... i´m sure will mess around with wave form and al but will be sure to be protected... i was also planning some way that i could see if some abuse happen...
i will also protect my multimeters from now on to be sure i wont blow them...
for the multimeters i though of constructing a metal case for them and tie the tvs to inputs and ground and ground the case...
this will save the day when using the probe in the case the probe ground is left unconnected... ii guess this is why my 1000:1 40Mohm 40kv probe totaly carbonized my multimeter probably i forgot to connect ground once..
damn the programed obsolescence
really if you are willing to help i´m willing to help you too impeed your equipment to burn unecessarily
any ideas?
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I have found a bug in my circuit using a different opamp than a comparator like lm 329 or a 741 amplifier... the bug is it will not oscillate because 555 timer capacitor is not being able to charge to the point it start to oscilate...
now i´m using the lm 318 and it has inside a couple of antiparallel diodes allowing only small voltage difference between inputs (small resistance) = bug
a normal opamp normally have high impedance at both inputs...
so if using a small resistance voltage pot divider to set into pin 2 a resistor can be add in series with it to increase its impedance... probably is a good idea to have a capacitor before this resistor to filter any pickup that can happen into the wiring of the potentiometer going to the ckt board...
the resistor can be high and capacitance still very low would filter more than enough
in this 318 the impedance will be limited by you... we need to add a resistor between the 6 pin of the 555 timer and the positive input of the 318 this way we ensure the capacitor reach the levels for triggering and threshold to set the oscillation...
for example my maximum timing resistance in the 555 timer is 115kohm and minimum 10kohm giving a coarse and fine tune pots and fix resistor.. this give me a ratio of change of 11.5 times... so this is the range the capacitors are to be chosen according to this range to provide a full range of frequencies...
for example i use 1 nf fixed than add 10nf with a swith than add 100nf with another switch to have the good range...
Now i have a question.... do you think i shoud add the resistance all on the negative side of the 318 or divide it between the negative and positive side... anyone can help me decide which is better?
i have a 10kohm there
in simulation i found that 1Mohm in the path from voltage divider to pin 6 is enough to not affect the frequency if changing the voltage going into the negative pin of the 318 from 1/3 to 2/3 of the supply voltage...
the waveform coming out of the 318 is very sharp and it can create very good pulse width like 99%
i than pass this thru an inverter to get the signal from 0 to vcc more perfectly square... the output of the opamp normaly dont get down to zero..it goes from 1v to vcc or something like it...
any help to think this would be nice...
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using a predefined pot for example you get 10kohm potentiometer and you want it to control the duty cycle from 0 to 100% you need it to vary from 1/3vcc to 2/3vcc... but for example if you wanted it to go from 25% to 95% how to know what resistors to use? simple... ohms law...
lets take the first example... if you get a 10kohm resistor is easy to see that if you add another two 10kohm resistors in either side it connecting to the vcc will already vary from 1/3 to 2/3 of vcc...
but why is that? well resistors in series share the same current... so basically what i´msaying is that finding the voltage variation you desire you simply calculate the current and from the current and anyother voltage you want you calculate for the resistors....
lets use an easy value for example if vcc is 5v 1/3 of 5v is 1,666v 1,666v/by 10kohm = 166microamps;;; (100% range)
if i wanted to vary from 25% to 95% ex than i need to recalculate the voltage variance i need
now for example i want in my circuit that it goes from 2v up to 3,33 volts to go from 25% to 100% since i work with vcc 5v
to find the 25% i subtracted the min voltage for 0% duty from the voltage for half vcc where is 50% duty cycle... than divided the result by two and than sum with 1/3 vcc again... if vcc is 5v 25% will be than for 555 timer 2.008v
so i actually now wants to vary 1,33v instead of 1/3 of vcc so 133micro amps
hope it helps...
another thing is to calculate the frequency of the 555 use the formula f=0,7185/R*C you can calculate the factor if you measure the frequency to get the best aproximation for your chip or board.. sometimes it vary a little... factor=F*R*C
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I have found a bug in my circuit using a different opamp than a comparator like lm 329 or a 741 amplifier... the bug is it will not oscillate because 555 timer capacitor is not being able to charge to the point it start to oscilate...
now i´m using the lm 318 and it has inside a couple of antiparallel diodes allowing only small voltage difference between inputs (small resistance) = bug
a normal opamp normally have high impedance at both inputs...
so if using a small resistance voltage pot divider to set into pin 2 a resistor can be add in series with it to increase its impedance... probably is a good idea to have a capacitor before this resistor to filter any pickup that can happen into the wiring of the potentiometer going to the ckt board...
the resistor can be high and capacitance still very low would filter more than enough
in this 318 the impedance will be limited by you... we need to add a resistor between the 6 pin of the 555 timer and the positive input of the 318 this way we ensure the capacitor reach the levels for triggering and threshold to set the oscillation...
for example my maximum timing resistance in the 555 timer is 115kohm and minimum 10kohm giving a coarse and fine tune pots and fix resistor.. this give me a ratio of change of 11.5 times... so this is the range the capacitors are to be chosen according to this range to provide a full range of frequencies...
for example i use 1 nf fixed than add 10nf with a swith than add 100nf with another switch to have the good range...
Now i have a question.... do you think i shoud add the resistance all on the negative side of the 318 or divide it between the negative and positive side... anyone can help me decide which is better?
i have a 10kohm there
in simulation i found that 1Mohm in the path from voltage divider to pin 6 is enough to not affect the frequency if changing the voltage going into the negative pin of the 318 from 1/3 to 2/3 of the supply voltage...
the waveform coming out of the 318 is very sharp and it can create very good pulse width like 99%
i than pass this thru an inverter to get the signal from 0 to vcc more perfectly square... the output of the opamp normaly dont get down to zero..it goes from 1v to vcc or something like it...
any help to think this would be nice...
Hey Seb, Im using
http://web.mit.edu/6.101/www/reference/lt1632.pdf
op amp in my circuit if it may help with you im fixing to order a few and can send you a cpl if you think they will help you.
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this seems a good one to use too! i will keep the lm318 as they work nice too and are pretty fast for now! Thanks a lot for the offer if you really can i would be happy to get to work with them and see if they work better somehow! but they don't seem to be very cheap opamp.. isn't?
i´m kind of seeing some pre triggering now i guess may be due to the 1 megohm resistor i added only between the pin 2 of the 555 timer and the positive input of the lm318...
i added a 10kohm load and now the output is a flat square... it was ramping a little..
i will try feedback too to try get away with false trigering...
i´m bit sleepy now.. i worked all day into this... there was a 318 burned and i was really not understanding it... so spent some time not really well..
also i did something wrong when copying from the protoboard to the pcb... i think the waveform is different than it should... i will try to use some jumper wires to fix... maybe i forgot to add a not gate somewhere.. but will fix...
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Hello
My fracture cell circuit is working nice but it has some spikes during the off pulse just where the other pulse is turning on after the dead time...
I added many capacitors all around and didn't changed anything else than impede the spike to get into the outputs of the ics... but still the output waveform has its spikes
i found that is actually due to a small delay diference from the outputs of the inverter and the divide by two
i found in simulation that adding at least an inverter between the clock and input of the divid by two introduce a delay that almost take the spike away...
my question is...how to get rid of it?
at my analog oscilloscope it does not show up.. the spike has around 22ns
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the answer was to put a inverter between the input of the divide by two and the clock source... also i reduced the gain of the lm318 and the waveform impreved... using positive feedback..10Mohm
still not perfect but is already working and clean...
what is happening is at lower frequency it seems to not be able to maintain small delay between the pulses... don't really understood why yet
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now its all woking pretty much fine.. i´m just trying to solve some ghost oscillations that some times appear... but the wave forms are fantastically great... there is a coarse and fine tune pots 100k and 10k respectively... with 5kohm in serie... this with 555 timer and 1nf capacitor generate from 5k to 70khz
there is some workaround i had to do on the opamp to make the wave form cleaner... specially at lower frequency it kind of generate some spurious signals.. its really very short pulses but should not be there anyway... i believe its picking up some noise from the flipflop since its very close in the pcb that might be the problem... maybe i change that...
so far i had to change some of the parameters to make it work... reduce the feedback resistance and the input resistance.. this makes it more stable but still not yet satisfactory...
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Your a bussy man Fabio!
I am so impressed!
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Its wonderful how many good info i left behind for myself aghahahaha online memory