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Projects by members => Projects by members => Sebosfato => Topic started by: sebosfato on August 10, 2015, 13:15:22 pm
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some while ago i made a video that is on my youtube channel where i show that using a magnet in a pulse transformer cause weird effects...
i this week thinking more about it.. i wanted to share this knowledge with you...
when you pulse a transformer unidirectionally the core remanescence impede you to use all of the half flux swing that is theoretically available for this kind of pulse. it happens that i discovered that if you polarize the core with a magnet in the reverse direction (or coil carrying certain dc) you cause it to give you the entire flux swing and switch off the problem of remanescence...
Another feature is...
in a normal transformer as you start the pulse the inductances are at the higher value so lower current initially flow with secondary open and it continuously increase..
in this proposed technic the inductance start at its smaller value and as the pulse is applied the inductances start to increase! and will achieve its maximum value when the pulse is to be collapsed because at this point one field is kind of canceling the other... using half swing
this will eventually reach a frequency where the current is maybe constant applied.. because initially the inductance is small and it increases with the pulse being applied...
notice that if full flux swing is used the inductance than is small at the end of the pulse again because in that case you reach reverse saturation point...
in comparison with the normal transformer would be the same using full flux except now it has low inductance at start of the pulse ... so would reduce the core size needed for a given power output..
The tesla diode i mention before also use this principle...
in one direction the current is opposed as the flux is changing but suddenly the pulse has unrestricted as it reverse direction...
now if we sum 1+1...
good luck
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http://www.ionizationx.com/index.php/topic,1463.24.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2PHCqEY55k
http://www.energeticforum.com/water-fuel/6400-meyer-wfc-opposite-voltage-potential-capacitor.html
some related info
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This is very interesting, and so very important.
The magnet affects the collapsing field in the core. Does this also change the output from the secondary, or only the choke? What if the magnet were placed on the secondary rather than the primary? If the output of the choke is magnetic in some way, will one wire from the choke to a small plate held next to a stream of water deflect the water?
I think I'll try putting a magnet on the bottom of an ignition coil.
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thats a start...
if somehow dc should be going in the vic even if a minimum which direction would it create a magnetic field? do you see my point?
it seems that it indeed affect the behavior... as i pointed theres some different regimes of operation... if you plot the different situations you will see what you are doing...
magnetism won't deflect water in a visible manner.. the vic... certainly does.. but its voltage doing it..
the forces would always be attractive if the field is slow enough but depending on the frequency bizarre movements are expected...
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I suspect this discovery led to your decision to turn one of the chokes around. Seems directly related.
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actually this new discovery tells me that maybe the upper choke being bigger makes the core to reset better.. would also increase the voltage applied... the other choke restricts the amps as suppose to be...
the coils configuration and my theory of how the water breaks are all in accordance... actually as i said is the exact same vic of the patent... if i could take a picture you would see..
the thing is what i'm trying to accomplish with it...
we explained many times in the past the configuration of coils looking by many angles.... but only with my theory i can conclude that...
i'm sure in a couple of days someone will put a video in internet saying that he discovered the theory and all... thats why i won't post a clue.. about my theory... they cannot just create one without science...
you know about the way the chokes are connected in h2opower drawings i posted some while ago a theory about that, someone i won't tell who, 2 days later posted a video saying that he has got it and that the secret was the way the chokes were connected... i mean
according to stan words that could be true since i was considering that during first pulse the pulse would get restricted and than it would double the frequency because it were indeed collapsing with another positive to the water. (even with secondary opening the circuit as suppose to be).. but the vic is not just that.. this frequency doubling is not this way.. at least not in both coils...
that configuration burned many diodes.. and coils... was just a theory and people got it so serious that they defend it like if they were they... even if not correct or work... maybe i defend some ideas with disproportional force too... make of it too much...
since 2007 we know that the tx5 coil is opposite phase according to the patent... i did many many tests with it in that way and never worked... why now would it work?
i guess now i know more about insulating coils and how to make them and know little better how they work...
now i have a objective... the theory to work must meet some conditions..
i also determined how i'm going to accomplish the task... the procedure...
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what i'm saying is all what stan said about the vic is correct... we are good with that... just need to get the correct voltage frequency pulse and restriction of the amps....
about the new discovery i also found that is a technic patented that is used for reseting high duty cycle pulse transformers
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Internet people will always steal ideas. My injector will have to be secret, except for demonstration.
Lacquer is very good for insulation. 45 kv per mm puncture and 2.5 dielectric constant. As long as my really thin SS wire from the scouring pad doesn't touch anywhere, it should be alright, without its own coating.
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heres my lab
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Cool. Look Ma, it's Farth Vader!
Seriously though, it's amazing what you can do with what I see in the picture, knowing full well, of course, that the important part is in your mind.
So you're actually pulling an rf signal from the outside proximity of your exciter array? With your body mass as the only ground?
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only 17kv there.... it were 25khz ...
the lamp were just for fun...
i was on bare foot... the lamp was not even touching... if i was holding a piece of metal it would draw a big arc to the metal while i;m holding it where its insulated... like a screwdriver .... totally ungrounded,,,
to ground the arcs are much hotter
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Very interesting. And that's some pretty uniform lighting for a low amp single wire circuit.
Remarkable.
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cool pic seb! Nice setup!
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My electronic NST is about that same frequency but it won't come close to doing that. Your cell must be producing a complex type of energy. Something dielectric related, which is what we want. Pure static.
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i'm not going very high (only 1/3) of the variac...less than 1 amp because there are only 9 layers of wire in each coil.... so high voltage in air would break it very easy...
i tried a feedback of current but it didn't worked because the signal were 90 degrees defaced so the pll would not lock automatically...
it seems to me that now is all about tuning...
i'm going to give a try in this coils for this week and next week will hope to get more bigger coils to work... actually i wound this in a manner as to continue the winding after test if not corrupted...
strangely enough the cell would light the lamp better than if its just close to the vic... but that can be explained because of the size of the cell and so the fields it emit are far reaching than the small diameter wire...
yet there is water and something going on with it..
wish i had more knowledge ....
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I made a special set of choke coils that would do that about 5 years ago. By accident, I had a neon bulb in my hand and all I had to do was hold one of the leads. The whole thing was an experiment with magnetics and electrons seeing each other in their relationship to other electrons. By theory they should have canceled out. But the configuration actually produced a super magnetic field. It charged up the water enough to light a 60ma Led after the cell was off.
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sometimes depending where i put the lamp there are standing wave forming... on the lamp
i can manage to make it stationary and measure it... but what would it tell? if i don't know the pressure inside the lamp or the gas type? does it make any difference?
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That I can not answer, I know its like 70v to light the neon. It only did it for me directly above the water of the cell.
That experiment led me to dBm measurements on the cell while testing.
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sometimes depending where i put the lamp there are standing wave forming... on the lamp
i can manage to make it stationary and measure it... but what would it tell? if i don't know the pressure inside the lamp or the gas type? does it make any difference?
There's a lot of knowledge in the patent data base, especially with plasma antennas. Here's a good one:
https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/pdfs/US6806833.pdf
Raising the pressure also increases the rf frequency.
A fluorescent tube can even be modulated to produce Meyer type pulses. Switching off the tube's ionizing potential produces a 100 nano second fall time of the modulation pulse train. But we would still need the choke.
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sometimes depending where i put the lamp there are standing wave forming... on the lamp
i can manage to make it stationary and measure it... but what would it tell? if i don't know the pressure inside the lamp or the gas type? does it make any difference?
There's a lot of knowledge in the patent data base, especially with plasma antennas. Here's a good one:
https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/pdfs/US6806833.pdf
Raising the pressure also increases the rf frequency.
A fluorescent tube can even be modulated to produce Meyer type pulses. Switching off the tube's ionizing potential produces a 100 nano second fall time of the modulation pulse train. But we would still need the choke.
could you please explain the mechanics of this? i have them to light very strong
i can even touch with bare foot and draw a big arc on my hand and not die... this way the lamp will flash ...
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The effect produced by your VIC must be similar to Tesla's high frequency energy. This energy is harmless above a certain frequency. And this is why your setup is so important.
Another patent describes a skin effect plasma, just on the inside surface. That's why it's all lighted.
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Tesla had a circuit which discharged a capacitor through an inductor and a spark gap. This produced a Plasmoid, which is a type of plasma which is magnetized. He didn't have semiconductors, so he used a magnet to blow out the spark and the pulse frequency was a result of the strength of the magnet. Low frequencies produced physical vibration of objects and a painful sensation, but pulses shorter than one tenth millisecond were harmless. This energy is a form of static and won't short out in water, so a light bulb can be put under the water.
With the fluorescent tube, the energy is coupled through an rf effect. And just for fun I'll point out that a CFL has a type of bifilar winding, in the shape of the glass. This single layer winding is bidirectional.
With the VIC, the capacitance is built in, due to the capacitance between the layers of the coil, and even the spacing between the windings of each layer. Increasing this capacitance is why I like to use wax paper and lacquer between the layers. Also to insulate against high voltage puncture.
Tesla called his energy paramagnetic. I've shown that water will repel or attract a Plasmoid, depending on polarity.
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Now i see that the things we hear about tesla making the lamps lighting on his hands and making it to light when more than one people together sum the wave to make it goes... its just amazing...
those lamps are burned.. won't light with a normal circuit...
i'm not sure if there is anything exotic yet.. i'm trying to switch off the covalent bonding... i'm not trying to do anything else... but now i see that there are few ways of going...
well i think the water/vic is oscillating in the gigahertz range since the striations on the lamp are around 2cm wide... my oscilloscope ceiling is 20MHz i will never see that .....thats why i think it lights up so much... i'm pulsing at half its resonating freq... and this gets the high voltage up... this coils now have 9layers with 100meters each.... l1 5m and feedback 4 turns...
the diode i use has a very high speed nanoseconds ... 16hf12
around the vic the lamp will light too but will do with less intensity and more striation...
you mean connecting the lamp to make it short the cell when ionization is reached ?
the problem is this lamps would ionize fairly easy at this high voltage... i'm not sure how fast would it come.. i'm not sure how you meant to use it as a modulator... i took a read on that patent but this part i didn't saw much of it explained there either...
i'm using just the plain vic that meyer showed in the patent that is in accordance with my theory in my analysis... there is only one other thing i could do to modify it... but only following the spirit of increasing the voltage... regarding the values he say in the patent.. or looking into the magnetic coupling fields he talks about... but nothing exotic thats the point.. did you tried "those" calculations for water?
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"i'm not sure if there is anything exotic yet.. i'm trying to switch off the covalent bonding... i'm not trying to do anything else... but now i see that there are few ways of going..."
Two potentials can spiral around each other. One potential comes from the cap, the other from the inductor's CEMF. These potentials discharge to each other if a molecule gets between them.
"around the vic the lamp will light too but will do with less intensity and more striation..."
That'a why your discovery is important, getting the energy from water around a capacitor.
"you mean connecting the lamp to make it short the cell when ionization is reached ?"
I was thinking about using the lamp to drive the cell. With a choke and tuning inductor.
"the problem is this lamps would ionize fairly easy at this high voltage... i'm not sure how fast would it come.. i'm not sure how you meant to use it as a modulator... i took a read on that patent but this part i didn't saw much of it explained there either..."
Sorry, that was from a different patent. I've been going through a lot of them. Just hook the modulating pulses up to one pin on each end of the lamp, while it is energized with the hv. Then take the output from a band around the far end of the lamp.
"did you tried "those" calculations for water?"
I'm not good at calculations. I like to just wire something up and see what it does. You guys have some advantage over me.
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i feel fooled by the light industry... lamps should last forever...
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here more complete scenario, you see labview on the left...
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My new discovery this days seems to be something really simple and stupid yet anyone seem to have tried since they believed stan schematics in a sort of blind way.. i don't blame me or anyone because of that many started to learn electronics like me simply to try to replicate this... so we truly don't look at it as an engineer that looks at 30000 different projects involving transformers for example...
i'm working with such person, had some meetings and he seem to have helped me a lot understanding how to really drive the cell high in voltage... i'm using for example now teflon triple coating wire... and silicon wire for 20kv for the output... tying to get pro....
i also thank to Ronnie and all the 5 column team for inspiring me to build a new very incredible nice cell and coils expecting for their master release! it lead me to understand more although they could not explain much that new for me without departing of their objective.. i thank them in the same way if i succeed in this for this reasons.. its a shame they disappeared...
H20power never inspired me on nothing... haha not true... i remember every word we exchanged, some were very good...
in attachment the waveforms...