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Title: Closer Re-exam Tech brief
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 11, 2013, 06:07:31 am
Well my idea is to rewrite only the information that i think is relevant so to become easier to understand and think about. Sometimes i entirely paraphrased, sometimes simply copy and others explained with my words and understanding. 

To start with the first thing that come to attention when reading the tech brief is the title.

Hydrogen Fracturing Process

Method

Using "Voltage Potential" to stimulate the water molecule to produce atomic energy on demand!

Operational parameters

Isolated Pulsing transformer Steps up voltage

Isolated electrical ground J prevents electron flow from input circuit ground.

Blocking diode prevents electrical shorting to secondary during pulse off

Charging choke in series with excitor array forms LC circuit since since the last acts as a capacitor

Water becomes Part of the Voltage intensifier circuit in the form of "resistance" preventing electron flow within the pulsing circuit

The voltage across the water capacitor is greater than the applied voltage at frequency close to  resonance

The voltage across the components tends to reach infinity at resonance but real components prevent this from happening. 

The water is dissociated by momentarily pulling away orbital electrons from its molecule by placement of a high voltage pulsed potential.

Once electrons are dislodged  from the molecule, the covalent bonding ceases to exist since the atom sharing electrons must relocate within the atoms... 

The liberated ionized atoms recapture free electrons floating around when voltage is switched off thereto they stabilizes and exit the water bath as 0 net charge gas.

Dissociation by this mechanism is herein called Electrical Polarization process.

 
Title: Resonant action Closer Re-exam Tech brief
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 11, 2013, 06:27:07 am
Subjecting the water bath to higher voltage levels causes the liberated "gas" atoms to ionize forming ion electron pairs that are deflected "accelerated" by the electric fields creating collisions unto the electrically charged water bath. Oscillation (back and forth movement) of this charged particles by voltage deflection is herein called Resonant action.

Adjusting voltage amplitude in respect to pulse frequency now produces hydrogen on demand while restricting amp flow. 


L.A.S.E.R.

Injecting visible LASER energy accelerate gas production and raise gas flame temperature beyond "normal" burning levels.

Injecting electromagnetic and electrically charged gas into other light activated resonant cavities promote further gas yield beyond voltage/laser stimulation as ilustrated in figure 1-16 as to 1-18

This mean that the greater is the number of chargeable particles the stronger is the effect of resonant action.

Title: Electron extraction circuit Closer Re-exam Tech brief
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 11, 2013, 06:43:50 am
Electron extraction Circuit

Relates to gas atoms exiting water bath and passing through another separated Gas Resonant cavity  1-17 where its subjected to a separated Pulsed LASER  source V at higher voltage level which causes more electrons to be pulled away from the gas atoms as illustrated in 1-15 as to  1-8


The absorbed LASER energy keep the electrons away from gas atoms during voltage pulse off time (while pulse is not being applied). 

EEC 1-14 captures and consumes electrons from the moving gas atoms to cause them to go into critical state. Isolated ground W and Resistive values of chokes and secondary and dielectric constant of the gas prevent electron deflection within the circuit at resonance! therefore keeping the gas atoms in critical state by "NOT" allowing electron replacement to take place between the MOVING atoms.

The electrons are "consumed" in the form of HEAT when an amp consuming device such as a light bulb is positively energized during alternate pulsing operations. LASER activated or primed gas ions Repels the electrons being consumed! as illustrated in figure 1-8 as to 1-20

Its called hydrogen gas gun
Title: Thermal atomic interacton Closer Re-exam Tech brief
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 11, 2013, 07:38:16 am
Thermal atomic interacton gtnt is caused because oxygen atoms having less than 4 covalent electrons fails to  form the covalent link with hydrogen molecules, since its unable to reach stable state (6 to 8 electrons required. as illustrated in figure 1-19

The absorbed LASER energy weakens the "Electrical Bond" between orbital electrons and the hydrogen nucleus of the atoms, while at the same time  the oxygen atoms missing 4 or more covalent electrons has a greater than normal attraction force to hydrogen orbital electrons, so it locks onto and keeps  the hydrogen electrons in few words it ionizes the hydrogen.  This abnormal condition causes the GAS ions to over compensate and breakdown into thermal explosive energy gtnt.

Basically the hydrogen atoms are now positive and arrived during the attraction phase very close to the oxygen atom such that it now have a high repulsive force acting on it, which may be or not the cause of the increased explosive energy noticed by Meyer.

This Thermal atomic interacton between highly energized gas IONS is hereinafter called THE HYDROGEN FRACTURING PROCESS

The atomic power yield is controlled simply by controlling operational parameters like voltage amplitude and pulse-rate.
Title: In summation Closer Re-exam Tech brief
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 11, 2013, 08:00:57 am
The hydrogen fracturing process simply triggers and release atomic energy from natural water by allowing highly energized sub-critical combustible gas ions to come together during thermal gas ignition.

The VIC brings on the Electrical polarization process that switches off the covalent bound of the molecules without consuming amps.

The Electrical Extraction Process generates electricity  when liberated electrons are directed away from hydrogen gas gun.

Hydrogen Fracturing process can releases clean atomic energy from water comparable to up to 2,5million barrels of oil per gallon of water under controlled state, by preventing the water molecule to reform, while being environmentally safe.

The hydrogen gas gun can be reduced to the size of a spark plug!!!!!!!!!!

Prototyping determines operational parameters.

Title: Re: Closer Re-exam Tech brief
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 12, 2013, 17:35:28 pm
Could it be that he couldnt release fully this tech because its to powerfull for everyone to have?

Could it become dangerous if everyone has a atomic energy car ex..?

Well clearly the hydrogen fracturing process is a way to obtain atomic energy from water and not simply hydrogen...,

As i also pointed in the past if its indeed atomic energy we don't need that all the water used become atomic energy, in the sense that it become a statistic of how many nuclear reactions can occur when you can use liters of water to obtain few hundreds of kw.

The electrical polarization process and Resonant action cold produce enough hydrogen to run the car? i guess so... How many times over unity would it be? maybe 10x? Nx?
Title: Re: Closer Re-exam Tech brief
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 13, 2013, 20:22:04 pm
Fabio, I love the summation, it's a very nice way to cut through all the tech talk of the brief. One thing, in my opinion, it should be understood that the amount of gases are not the issue. The energy density of Hydrogen in it's stable state is too low to be used as a economical fuel. But, with next to nothing in energy consumption, we can increase the energy density of the two gases by simply positively charging the molecules. I would assume, as each electron, as it is removed from the Oxygen molecule(Hydrogen only has one electron), the higher the thermal energy output from the combustion cycle. Which, should give much greater control over throttling too.
Title: Re: Closer Re-exam Tech brief
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 14, 2013, 05:17:41 am
I'm glad you enjoy BUbz,

You are right about the hydrogen energy density if it should be manipulated as a gas but when it suppose to be generated on demand from water than it becomes just as good or better than gasoline though. 2,5 times... like stan stated...

Title: Re: Closer Re-exam Tech brief
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 14, 2013, 10:34:47 am
I'm glad you enjoy BUbz,

You are right about the hydrogen energy density if it should be manipulated as a gas but when it suppose to be generated on demand from water than it becomes just as good or better than gasoline though. 2,5 times... like stan stated...

I agree here. If you are doing engine tests, you will notice that unregulated rectified ac is the best powersupply, at the moment. It creates brownsgas with around 3 % monotomic hydrogen.
Meyer did exactly the same, see his patens about hydrogen generation: ca1234774a1 and some other patens of him.
I had a practical experience that my motor ran better (HHO only, no petrol) on smaller drycell with unregulated rectified ac then it did on a bigger cell with higher efficiency, more gas, but with strait DC...

Steve
Title: Re: Closer Re-exam Tech brief
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 16, 2013, 04:17:35 am
I understand your results could lead you to conclude this but how sure you are if its 3% of monoatomic hydrogen? or it was caused by another reason?
 
How many comparisons did you made Steve?

What were exactly the operational conditions?

how much hho per minute ex. ?





 



Title: Re: Closer Re-exam Tech brief
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 17, 2013, 02:54:01 am
maybe Meyer do electrolysis with high efficiency.

Electrolysis depend on Amps, lowest voltage is the best.

Faraday laws depend on a stable DC Voltage.Faraday laws depend on Amps.Faraday don't make laws about pulse voltage.

i thought "Meyer use Pulse high voltage equal 1.48 DCV or less but consume more amps than stable dc".because if you use low voltage you cannot make high amps(example 10ohms 1.5 v 0.15A you must make lowest ohms(by increase surface area) to create high amps).

Example 1:

- resistor spec = 10W, 10ohms.

if you use 10 stable VDC, max amps=1 A (10W),

20VDC 50% duty(10VDC-Avg) with 10ohms resistor amps=2A 50% duty(1A-Avg) =20V*2A=40W*50%=20W.

analog meter show avg voltage or amps.20VDC 50%duty=10VDC,2A 50%duty=1A.Avg power=10W but real power=20W.

Example 2:

-resistor spec= 10W, 10ohms.
if you use 10 stable VDC, max amps=1 A (10W),

100VDC 10%duty(10VDC-Avg) with 10ohms resistor amps=10A 10% duty(1A-Avg) =100V*10A=1000W*10%=100W.
analog meter show avg voltage or amps.100VDC 10%duty=10VDC,10A 10%duty=1A.Avg power=10W but real power=100W.

Example 3:

-resistor spec= 10W, 10ohms.
if you use 10 stable VDC, max amps=1 A (10W),

1000VDC 1%duty(10VDC-Avg) with 10ohms resistor amps=100A 1% duty(1A-Avg) =1000V*100A=100000W*1%=1000W.
analog meter show avg voltage or amps.1000VDC 1%duty=10VDC,100A 1%duty=1A.Avg power=10W but real power=1000W.

Now No one use high voltage with success.but someone use low voltage high amps make high output gas(fast freddy3v 55amps or 10v70A).maybe Meyer make it difference.=use high voltage to create high amps.from example that show when use 20vdc pulse dc to 10ohms 10W resistor, real power=20W then resistor burn because heat(or energy).with this energy can split water to gas.

thanks
geenee
Title: Re: Closer Re-exam Tech brief
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 18, 2013, 03:04:53 am
Yes you want to mean power compression and thats what i'm trying to make clear here...

as i understand

Meyer clearly states:

Step up transformer

Diode conducts only during pulse off

The voltage output is greater than input voltage multiplied by the transformer ratio..

From this is clear than that it is a flyback transformer

From this is clear that when you add a choke in series it will double the frequency as it will allow the flyback to discharge rapidly thru it and than to dump all the energy into the WFC...

From this is clear that if you want higher voltage more power is required

From this is clear that problems that arise from increasing power input are the transistors rating and diode ratings.. coils sizes and capacitor size and water purity...

Isn't it simple enough?

The greater problem ever since has being people trying to copy design with zero to no knowledge behind.
Title: Re: Closer Re-exam Tech brief
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 18, 2013, 03:24:08 am


Now No one use high voltage with success.but someone use low voltage high amps make high output gas(fast freddy3v 55amps or 10v70A).maybe Meyer make it difference.=use high voltage to create high amps.from example that show when use 20vdc pulse dc to 10ohms 10W resistor, real power=20W then resistor burn because heat(or energy).with this energy can split water to gas.

thanks
geenee

20v into a 10 ohm resistor makes 2 amps to flow so its not 20W its 40Watts

What if you applied 2000v? The amps would be 200 and power would be 400KW  for a 10 Ohm resistor
Title: Closer analysis voltage intensifier circuit
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 18, 2013, 04:18:14 am
Being the chokes at separated core(s) it should behave like this

Here are the first two cycles

can you see that it double the frequency?

the arrows shows the direction of the conventional current

the + shows where is positive in the circuit

The extra diode is there to allow the core to charge fast since its like a short, but its also there to allow the chokes and cell circuit to discharge sending all the potential to the water...

correct if i'm wrong... if that is not the best way to send high power to the water....

the circuit charges up while the chokes are discharging

the X shows where current cannot flow!
Title: Re: Closer Re-exam Tech brief
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 18, 2013, 09:40:30 am
http://www.hst.tu-darmstadt.de/uploads/media/iso_v_09.pdf
Title: Re: Closer Re-exam Tech brief
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 18, 2013, 09:51:35 am
http://physics.usask.ca/~hirose/ep225/animation/emreflection/anim-emreflection.htm
Title: Re: Closer Re-exam Tech brief
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 20, 2013, 22:05:28 pm
It seems that i not very much like it should be....

I mean this diode lets a current to flow if the pulse is on and this creates a bucking magnetic field so i'm not sure if its not destructing the energy that it accumulates ... as a current at the secondary creates a contrary magnetic field...

So is there a solution to get this diode shut during pulse on and conducting during pulse off?

Title: Re: Closer Re-exam Tech brief
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 21, 2013, 09:09:18 am
It seems that i not very much like it should be....

I mean this diode lets a current to flow if the pulse is on and this creates a bucking magnetic field so i'm not sure if its not destructing the energy that it accumulates ... as a current at the secondary creates a contrary magnetic field...

So is there a solution to get this diode shut during pulse on and conducting during pulse off?

use an extra fet between the diode...