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Projects by members => Projects by members => J. Miller => Topic started by: jim miller on August 03, 2012, 17:03:37 pm
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H Barry Bebb was delving into the ionic states of hydrogen and other noble gases gases by the bombardment of the gases by multiple photon frequencies. This was a NASA funded project.
See hereticalbuilders for an application of this principle in his version of the gas processor
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@Jim:
Nice research. Thanks for the great docs on LED/laser exposure to the process.
mina
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Nice stuff! Do you have more on that?
Ruby colored laser light at 1.73ev.
That not a very high powerrate and as such maybe replicable.
Steve
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1.73eV goes from IR to visible it's the needed wavelength that makes lasers so expensive to test and experiment with
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It seems that article requires a subscription of sorts.. So, not sure what it says but I did a bit of research and putting together the pieces of Stans patents and videos ...
As we know, Stan used Red leds.. I believe he took them to higher orbital shells in the atom to easily "pluck" off the electrons (as mentioned in the New Zealand video) from the Oxygen atom (by then allowing them to flow to the light filament) in order to later cause the atomic condition. Once the hydrogen atom nears the oxygen atom (now missing electrons). It takes that one electron from the hydrogen atom. Causing an unstable state of the hydrogen atom to decay rapidly to explosion. I was trying to figure out what actual wavelengths of the leds would be good for this and found some information everyone should look at!
Basic explanation about how light (photons) effects atoms.
https://webbtelescope.org/contents/articles/spectroscopy-101--how-absorption-and-emission-spectra-work
Specific wavelengths for Oxygen
https://www.physics.nist.gov/PhysRefData/Handbook/Tables/oxygentable2.htm
The second link shows the wavelengths in which photons cause the electrons to move to outer shells! If you look at the second site (navigating to hydrogen) and compare the values to the ones in the first article. You will see it's closer to 656nm (for hydrogen) to move up to level 3. Now leds will output across a range so you wouldn't have to be super precise but having this knowledge. Less energy would be used if choosing the proper wavelength..
Reading this information.. I am curious as to why Stan didn't try to use violet (which moves the electron way further in the orbital shell, at least for hydrogen) .
NOTE.. The (Å) wavelengths are Equal to nm if you drop the last zero on the (Å) measurement. So... 434nm = 4340 (Å)
I currently lack resources to get a lot of this off the ground but I have been so enamored with it that I am researching so when the time comes I can complete it. I have spend lots of time off and on for years looking at old inventions and researching energy. Some are hoaxs, some are not economical or lack efficiency or simply lack information to recreate.. But Stanley was the REAL DEAL. and once you understand the concepts it's not impossible to create. I'll be posting when I can in hopes to help others and learn more. Thanks for reading!
NOTE: the picture I attached is from the first site talking about Hydrogen.. But I am recommending to use the wavelengths for Oxygen cause that seems to make the most sense here.
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Hallo StoptheGreed,
It is nice to see more people being interested in the electron theme of Meyer.
I have tried using Leds in combination with HHO gas.
I didnt see any changes, but that is more to my test setup of those days.
You need a test setup with a running engine, i suppose. Run it on fully on HHO and then put such a led device in between and see what happens.
How would you like to test such a device?
Best regards
Steve
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Interesting picture
This show that to take from second level to third it only need some red led
In multi photon ionization would mean a photon with even lower energy would be needed from third level and so on
Of course this are quantized values and so would need to be in correct proportion
Should be energetically efficient as just using uv to directly jump the levels
Except that electric fields can interact with that
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Its not just some red light, Fabio.
The light must have some strenght. I think it is in eV (electron volts)
I dont know how much joule or watts that is, to be honest and i doubt that som low level red leds can do the job...
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The ev Of lasers is how much energy per Photon you have … it’s directly related to the frequency and because of this a quantized effect I mean only discreet energy will be absorbed by the atoms and. Molecules
A laser in the uv range consume much more power per photon than a laser in the red range
In this multi photon ionization the first jump is the lowest energy than subsequently it decrease for next levels for hydrogen
I’m not really sure also of the effect it would have… my best guess is that he used it as just a manner of disturbing initially the molecules while letting the voltage polarization act
The intensity usually only refer to the amount of photons like the current of the light
It’s known that titanium oxide electrodes will generate hydrogen if receive light at a lower voltage than the required acting as a catalyst
The cell being a light guide could make use of the laser amplifying it
If water is able to emit some photons would be great too
Lot to discover here
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https://youtu.be/Uxc5H5Ui1n0
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Its not just some red light, Fabio.
The light must have some strenght. I think it is in eV (electron volts)
I dont know how much joule or watts that is, to be honest and i doubt that som low level red leds can do the job...
After a GPT session, it came to the conclusion that (sans photo-multiplication/multi-absorption gains) that the energy level from the pulsed 660nm could only result in a 1 electronVolt increase. Coulombs law doesn't apply to photons.
UV-C extreme low end <90nm, is capable of ionizing the hydrogen atom instantly.
Now, interferometry on the other hand, can produce stationary waves or other higher and lower harmonics that are literally other wavelengths of light. Some of which could be sub-90nm.
Checkout a patent cited by another patent, cited by Stan.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20120097550A1/en
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Its not just some red light, Fabio.
The light must have some strenght. I think it is in eV (electron volts)
I dont know how much joule or watts that is, to be honest and i doubt that som low level red leds can do the job...
After a GPT session, it came to the conclusion that (sans photo-multiplication/multi-absorption gains) that the energy level from the pulsed 660nm could only result in a 1 electronVolt increase. Coulombs law doesn't apply to photons.
UV-C extreme low end <90nm, is capable of ionizing the hydrogen atom instantly.
Now, interferometry on the other hand, can produce stationary waves or other higher and lower harmonics that are literally other wavelengths of light. Some of which could be sub-90nm.
Checkout a patent cited by another patent, cited by Stan.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20120097550A1/en
However, Stan also shows us how he used impingement of both: molecules and gas atoms. A photon striking an H+ atom, has the potential to knock the electron off of it, which instantly ionizes it. The trouble is (and it's the same with getting 13.6V to the molecule as Stephen says), is that hydrogen bond clustering blocks the majority of molecules and atoms from absorbing the photons and electric charges from the fields.
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Interesting picture
This show that to take from second level to third it only need some red led
In multi photon ionization would mean a photon with even lower energy would be needed from third level and so on
Of course this are quantized values and so would need to be in correct proportion
Should be energetically efficient as just using uv to directly jump the levels
Except that electric fields can interact with that
Hey Steve,
Thanks for the response.. Were you also using the extraction circuit with the LED setup to grab those electrons (see figure 8A)?
When electricity flows down a wire it's simply knocking copper/aluminum electrons off as it flows. So essentially he is capturing them from the gas in a similar manner.
It's my understanding is, the light hits them and they move to outer shells... But, once that light is gone (gas moves to another chamber or to engine even, without that light) then electrons will move right back down instantly to the inner shells (doing so they will emit that light back out though)..
So I do not think it is simply enough to hit them with the light... I think the purpose of the light is to prime them.
So that within this excited state, that electron can be plucked off (ENERGIZED LIGHT BULB (CONSUMING ELECTRONS) in fig 8A). Ideally, in the same chamber or directly above like Stans diagrams shows(again, there must have been enough light to reach upwards to the Electron Extraction grid Fig. 8A)) the extraction circuit (see attached) which removes those electrons permeantly so they can not move back down (because they are gone of course). This will ultimately leave the oxygen atoms with missing electrons which is what we want to later cause the atomic decay.
You'll notice in the picture for the gas processor (IMG_8907.jpg) is has 4 power connections at the bottom. 1 positive and 1 negative SET to power the leds and the other to power the plates through excitation. I believe these plates act similar to the water cell but are necessary so the gas doesn't just reform back into water.
If you have ever tired running a standard hydrogen cell in your car (waste of money by the way unless you're using a circuit like Stanley did) you'll see water droplets all along the tubes going to your intake. This is the atoms bumping each other to reform into water. But in a state of excitation and missing electrons, this won't happen.
I think he later realized running the gas through quench tubes and all of that was simply more dangerous and complex.. His later injector invention (not the first injectors that quench tubes simply injected the mixed gasses into the engine but the later ones) made all of this happen at an instant, eliminating the need for all of that gas travel.
I'm not positive if he even used the leds light in the later injector (he still did to ionize the ambient air with laser though) because I didn't see it in the diagrams of the injector (correct me if I'm wrong). There's only three chambers (looks like 2 in some diagrams of the injectors but it's clarified in the text and shown in FIGURE 6) in the injector and a connection for the electric from the VIC.. One chamber is just water, one is exashaut gases (non-combustible gases) and the other is the ionized ambient air to slow the burn rate.
In the circuit for the later injectors you can see he is indeed extracting electrons from within the injector because there is a light bulb/resistor in the circuit (55 on FIGURE 5 of tempStanInjectorCircut.jpg) . So the injector was creating that unstable atomic decay effect.
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well, i have hete on this forum a schematic of a pwm with gating, pulse width options and eec.
Also on my alternator setup, i used some sort of eec. The eec was powering the rotor coil
I didnot use the eec in combi with my led canon tube...
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I see hydrogen atom being mentioned/targeted by our investigations..
But I wanted to mention, I do believe it's the oxygen atom we want to target, not the hydrogen...
There is two reasons I believe this. In the new Zealand video, he walks through the process and mentions how the hydrogen atom (having only one proton and one electron) meets up with the Oxygen atom (now missing some electrons) and that is the point in which the atomic reaction occurs.. Because that one little electron in hydrogen is pulled right out by the oxygen atom (because the oxygen atom is stronger with all those protons it takes it from the hydrogen atom) .. Leaving the hydrogen proton left to decay. AND in the video (hard to hear but) one of the guys askes if the lasers are hitting hydrogen as well (because Stan mentions them hitting oxygen) and Stan's response is... "you could"..
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In which video did you hear that?
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In which video did you hear that?
At about 1:05:28 but I relistened to it.... and he does mention hitting the hydrogen as well.
http://www.globalkast.com/vids/Stanley_Meyer_-_1989_-_House_Meeting_in_New_Zealand_720p.mp4 (http://www.globalkast.com/vids/Stanley_Meyer_-_1989_-_House_Meeting_in_New_Zealand_720p.mp4)
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Have you ever thought about shooting the hydrogen thru a very hot arc?
I think that’s the condition to meet
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i once, put hydrogen thru an arc......in a glas pipe....
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i once, put hydrogen thru an arc......in a glas pipe....
How it came up? I think you see what I’m thinking about?
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i once, put hydrogen thru an arc......in a glas pipe....
How it came up? I think you see what I’m thinking about?
I didnt see any changes towards the h2......
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You have to remember that Stan was limited by the tech of his day...red LEDs was the best he could do (I remember them being so expensive in the 90s too). Every element's peak absorbtion spectrum can be determined by it's emission spectrum. Just Google Hydrogen emission spectrum (arc discharge through rarified hydrogen, light passed through prism). Red is the weakest visible freq....we can do much better, I just bought 40, 410nm high power LEDs, and they arrived yesterday. About to mill the optical windows from a 3mm thick 316L outter tube now. I'll get 18 of the 500ma diodes packed in there ☀️
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Forgot to mention, I remember Stan saying the light weakens one element and energizes the other....so, either he was targeting the hydrogen, or it is possible that he was targeting the oxygen to make ozone, and letting the ozone prevent the "recombination to water"....but for atomic hydrogen to manifest, it needs to be excited to a high orbital, then absorb an extra electron to have a full valence shell (first V-shell is 2 electrons) and not need to share an orbital electrons with another hydrogen.
But, that's not what releases the heat, as the molecular hydrogen expands immensely as it dissasociates, it would cool. Per Langmuir, the atomic hydrogen must collide with an electron acceptor (metal) and then it compresses back down with a neighboring hydrogen to molecular hydrogen, and that's where the heat comes from (molecular compression), as the molecular hydrogen then acts as a shielding gas by igniting from the heat with atmospheric oxygen. So to me, the ozone steals the atomic hydrogen extra electron and triggers recombination before it hits the engine wall.
The Gas processor must be working on the hydrogen, because......
We know the gas processor could be used to make magnetic gasses (Stan's laser powered DC generator was real, I met one of Stan's investors, and the first thing he asked me is if I knew about his magnetic gas)....O2 and Ozone is paramagnetic (weakly magnetic)....so that's not it, molecular hydrogen is also paramagnetic, but ionized hydrogen is incredibly magnetic.....his patents show a T-fitting with two cylindrical neodymium magnets with the field orthagonal through the hollow center. The magnets were placed facing the same direction, so at the fork of the T, the gas saw North on one side, and South on the other....a magnetized gas would go strongly one direction of attraction, then eject out the other side via repulsion, presumably the O2 or O3 would weakly go the other....
I believe the original operation of the buggy worked highly dependant on the gas processor making the H1....I believe the refined version only had to push hydrogen up to a higher orbit in the water vapor (possibly making molecular hydrogen/oxygen via energy shell increase and electron extraction circuit), possibly just pushing the hydrogen bond angle far apart), and make alot of ozone in the intake....then the refined injectors split the energized molecular hydrogen (possibly electrolyzing energized water molecule directly to H1) into monoatomic hydrogen in the cylinder....The massive overabundance of O3 triggers a pseudo-reassociation, releasing heat, but combining to -OH (hydroxide)....a cascading event of association/disassociation probably going back and fourth between H1, H2, O3, -OH, and other free radicals including NO3, etc.... and plenty of thermal heat ensues until vented to atmosphere....like Stan claimed....but the "nuclei decay" of hydrogen was a term he made-up to describe the anomalous heat of mono-atomic hydrogen.
P.S.
Oxygen and Hydrogen both have emission/absorbtion spectrums in red...Oxygen=630nm, Hydrogen=656nm
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From the history of LEDs....regarding Red
The cheapest, and most abundant of Stan's time (not a whole lot changed, they just got brighter and more durable/weatherproof)
"The first commercially usable LEDs were developed in the 1960’s by combining three primary elements: gallium, arsenic and phosphorus (GaAsP) to obtain a 655nm red light source."
655nm....1nm off from Hydrogen's lowest energy emission/absorbtion spectrum🤔
P.S. 410nm is 0.1nm off from Hydrogen's most energetic emission/absorbtion spectrum....656nm can push the electron up 1 energy level, 410.1nm can push it up 4 energy levels. 🤓
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This is a nice read...
https://www.nouvir.com/how-photons-meet-atoms.htm (https://www.nouvir.com/how-photons-meet-atoms.htm)
Analyzing Stan's patents I wavered for a minute...thinking he was targeting Oxygen's absorbtion spectrum. Until reading that info, and then seeing Stan's diagram of the Oxygen and all the way to the right, Hydrogen...I am convinced because he uses two seperate terms....the Oxygen is in the focus, but the term used is "Photon energy injection"....and he shows multiple orbits of oxygen electrons....then very subtly he labels the Hydrogen with "light absorbtion" and "electron entrapment"....it's all in this website. Oxygen interaction is the website's 4th "A PHOTOCHEMICAL SURPRISE"....Hydrogen "absorbs" aka annihilates the photon...generating 2 electrons
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found this page recently with 3d print files and all. recently been working on trying to figure out how to 3d print a viable part the last few days. I'll start a thread on the build in my projects page once i get going. My first 3d making of any kind shows it was my first one.
https://www.water-fuel.co/gas-gun-and-application?lang=el
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Found the perfect light for this project to take parts from. I was thinkin UV-c was the way to go too.
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From the history of LEDs....regarding Red
The cheapest, and most abundant of Stan's time (not a whole lot changed, they just got brighter and more durable/weatherproof)
"The first commercially usable LEDs were developed in the 1960’s by combining three primary elements: gallium, arsenic and phosphorus (GaAsP) to obtain a 655nm red light source."
655nm....1nm off from Hydrogen's lowest energy emission/absorbtion spectrum🤔
P.S. 410nm is 0.1nm off from Hydrogen's most energetic emission/absorbtion spectrum....656nm can push the electron up 1 energy level, 410.1nm can push it up 4 energy levels. 🤓
That's correct. Nice info on the old LEDs. So, wouldn't you assume something much faster would raise the energy levels even higher? such as UV in the deep C region <100nm would instantaneously ionize the H+ atom causing the electron loss.
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That's correct. Nice info on the old LEDs. So, wouldn't you assume something much faster would raise the energy levels even higher? such as UV in the deep C region <100nm would instantaneously ionize the H+ atom causing the electron loss.
Yes, sub 100nm UV can even directly ionize water as well...but you run into problems like glass and even water being opaque to such frequencies (as well as most plastics). At 410nm glass, plastic, etc is still mostly transparent. Smaller wavelength light would work (less likely to be reflected by orbiting electron(s), if you can utilize exotic window materials. But 410.1nm is the most energetic frequency (still visible) that doesn't mandate such exotic lense materials. My tests so far show glass and water are mostly transparent, so I assume acrylic will also be transparent (testing soon), though it's unclear if acrylic will haze and get uv damaged over time with 410nm (I imagine it will, because cheap plastic cullimating lenses go bad with 405-450nm laser diodes)
If the photon is truly absorbed, it will become annihilated and produce two extra electrons. We want oxygen to release electrons, and we want hydrogen to absorb energy to dissasociate, and also gain an electron to hold monoatomic energy state...then once those criteria are met, when triggered in a final stage (magnetic pinch + voltage zone) , the electron deficient oxygen triggers the hydrogen to recombine (compression down) and releases "thermal explosive energy".
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Here is another great read (pdf attached)....photoelectric effect is most easily achieved and happens when the photon is absorbed by an inner-shell.... "pair production" is more difficult and happens when photon makes it to the nucleus and is absorbed, but compounding forces involved in the multiple resonant chambers tells me it's possible.
The last stage in Stan's hydrogen gas gun diagrams (5b of patent#5149407) shows photon/laser energy through a lens onto already ionized gasses, then voltage/magnetic/compression zone...triggering thermal explosive release.
In my mind, 656nm is the largest visible wavelength to be absorbed by hydrogen and must be absorbed by orbital electron(s)...410.1nm has a higher chance to make it past electron(s) and be absorbed by the nucleus. If that happens, the hydrogen would have more than enough dissasociation energy, and the photon would produce an electron and a positron. The hydrogen would be instantly negatively ionized, and the electron orbits would have to radically restructure, flipping the positron to another electron.
Stan's diagram of the atoms absorbing photon energy (6d of patent#5149407), is alot of info crammed into it. But we see oxygen on the low level...then a high energy level line, with liberated electrons traveling to a diagram of the Electron Extraction Circuit co-labeled "electron entrapment" and "hydrogen ions".
I believe 656nm works because it most likely interacts with a lower orbital of oxygen as well as hydrogen. It is unknown if 410nm will also "inject" energy into oxygen, but it's smaller wavelength intuitively tells it will collide with oxygen electrons...but, oxygen is pretty easily ionized into ozone and I think the voltage zone/EEC alone can satisfy oxygen ionization....the requirement needs to be stable negative ionization for both monoatomic hydrogen (H1-) and oxygen (O3-) so they repel each other and don't interact as they travel. Up until the moment of magnetic/physical compression...at which point the third oxygen breaks off and steals the H1- electron(s).
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How you are going to measure if or not the specific wavelenghts you have are affecting or not the molecules?
i would be important to know if or not the light is being absorbed…
most likely very few and very precise wavelengths can be absorbed the rest will only pass thru as if it was nothing…
Also coherence may be important too
i guess you could use some sort of light intensity detector …
I would give a try to those lasers used for engravers
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Detecting the absorption of a laser beam by air can be challenging since air is generally transparent to most laser wavelengths. However, certain conditions and techniques can help identify if a laser is absorbed or scattered by air. Here are a few methods you can consider:
Beam visibility: If the laser beam is visible along its entire path, it suggests that the laser is scattering off particles in the air. This scattering phenomenon is known as Rayleigh scattering and occurs more prominently for shorter wavelengths, such as blue or green lasers.
Beam attenuation: If the laser beam appears dimmer or weaker as it propagates through the air, it could indicate absorption by airborne particles or molecules. This effect becomes more pronounced with longer wavelengths, such as infrared lasers. Comparing the intensity of the laser beam at different distances can provide insights into potential absorption.
Beam divergence: If the laser beam rapidly expands or diverges over a short distance, it may suggest scattering or absorption. This occurs when the laser energy is transferred to the air, causing a decrease in the beam's intensity and coherence.
Detection equipment: Specialized equipment like LIDAR (Light Detection and Ranging) systems or laser absorption spectrometers can detect the absorption of laser light by atmospheric gases. These instruments utilize sophisticated techniques to measure the absorption and scattering characteristics of laser beams at specific wavelengths.
Environmental conditions: Certain atmospheric conditions can affect laser absorption, such as high humidity, fog, or airborne pollutants. In these situations, the laser beam may be scattered or absorbed to a greater extent, resulting in reduced visibility or power.
It's important to note that determining laser absorption by air requires careful analysis and often requires specialized equipment or knowledge. If you're working with lasers and need accurate measurements or assessments, it's recommended to consult experts or refer to scientific literature and research in the field.
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From what i see in terms of viability of mantaining the hydrogen fracturing like in a rocket
what stanley meyer call easer
is basically a laser tube with two mirrors where laser is injected continuously to start maintain the atomic reaction by impeeding the recombination of hydrogen and oxygen
what if the sun is not what we think? what if is just oxygen and hydrogen too hot to glue ? continuously releasing energy?
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How you are going to measure if or not the specific wavelenghts you have are affecting or not the molecules?
i would be important to know if or not the light is being absorbed…
most likely very few and very precise wavelengths can be absorbed the rest will only pass thru as if it was nothing…
Also coherence may be important too
i guess you could use some sort of light intensity detector …
I would give a try to those lasers used for engravers
Atoms must absorb their emission spectrum...they must.
I have a feeling 18 or so 300-500mw 410nm is going to be pretty obvious...if I wrap the VIC around the output....like atomic hydrogen flame obvious lol (🤞)
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Detecting the absorption of a laser beam by air can be challenging since air is generally transparent to most laser wavelengths. However, certain conditions and techniques can help identify if a laser is absorbed or scattered by air. Here are a few methods you can consider:
Beam visibility: If the laser beam is visible along its entire path, it suggests that the laser is scattering off particles in the air. This scattering phenomenon is known as Rayleigh scattering and occurs more prominently for shorter wavelengths, such as blue or green lasers.
Beam attenuation: If the laser beam appears dimmer or weaker as it propagates through the air, it could indicate absorption by airborne particles or molecules. This effect becomes more pronounced with longer wavelengths, such as infrared lasers. Comparing the intensity of the laser beam at different distances can provide insights into potential absorption.
Beam divergence: If the laser beam rapidly expands or diverges over a short distance, it may suggest scattering or absorption. This occurs when the laser energy is transferred to the air, causing a decrease in the beam's intensity and coherence.
Detection equipment: Specialized equipment like LIDAR (Light Detection and Ranging) systems or laser absorption spectrometers can detect the absorption of laser light by atmospheric gases. These instruments utilize sophisticated techniques to measure the absorption and scattering characteristics of laser beams at specific wavelengths.
Environmental conditions: Certain atmospheric conditions can affect laser absorption, such as high humidity, fog, or airborne pollutants. In these situations, the laser beam may be scattered or absorbed to a greater extent, resulting in reduced visibility or power.
It's important to note that determining laser absorption by air requires careful analysis and often requires specialized equipment or knowledge. If you're working with lasers and need accurate measurements or assessments, it's recommended to consult experts or refer to scientific literature and research in the field.
I got 2 100mw 405nm laser diodes coming (410nm laser diodes are super expensive) the first one I bought was an overclocked 10mw....garbage burnt out under an hour.
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From what i see in terms of viability of mantaining the hydrogen fracturing like in a rocket
what stanley meyer call easer
is basically a laser tube with two mirrors where laser is injected continuously to start maintain the atomic reaction by impeeding the recombination of hydrogen and oxygen
what if the sun is not what we think? what if is just oxygen and hydrogen too hot to glue ? continuously releasing energy?
From what I gather, Stan's "EASER" is akin to J.L.Naudins custom hydrogen filled vacuum tube. Hydrogen dissasociates and reassociates....
http://jlnlabs.online.fr/mahg/index.htm (http://jlnlabs.online.fr/mahg/index.htm)
Naudin recorded excess heat in his setup....
But I believe Stan figured how to pump out electrons (Photon annihilation).
"EASER"....Electron Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation...bouncing Hydrogen's emission spectrum back onto the Hydrogen
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Hope you can see any change on the flame.. what you are going to do if there is no change in the flame?
How many watts has a lighter flame? How much would 10mw change a flame with 50w or more? Hope you get what I mean…
How you are going to know where to go?
Easer is energy amplification by stimulated emission of radiation
You should pay attention to Meyers words not replicators with no results just an advice
No one replicated anything good enough or we would not even be here talking! So be careful with what you read and believe it may bias your ideas and conclusions and bring you no where
I’ve being there long enough to give this advice
What I meant is that the hydrogen gas gun or hydrogen fracturing process may be coherent
And so if the reaction emits photons it will be useful to contain inside this mirrors I mentioned
Good luck
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Hope you can see any change on the flame.. what you are going to do if there is no change in the flame?
How many watts has a lighter flame? How much would 10mw change a flame with 50w or more? Hope you get what I mean…
How you are going to know where to go?
Easer is energy amplification by stimulated emission of radiation
You should pay attention to Meyers words not replicators with no results just an advice
No one replicated anything good enough or we would not even be here talking! So be careful with what you read and believe it may bias your ideas and conclusions and bring you no where
I’ve being there long enough to give this advice
What I meant is that the hydrogen gas gun or hydrogen fracturing process may be coherent
And so if the reaction emits photons it will be useful to contain inside this mirrors I mentioned
Good luck
I've already witnessed some interesting results from just pulsed resonant cells (555 driven 2n3055) in pure %5 white vinegar (a beautiful prismatic electroplating developed with diode properties) . The gas output persists after t-off, and the same two volumes of 1cc of gas (one from straight electrolysis and one from resonant pulsed DC, without inductors)...the gas from the resonant DC cell had a noticeably louder concussion wave. 1cc of normal hydrogen/oxygen gas retorts like a weak firework.... "pop"...the same 1cc from the resonant DC cell (after the electroplating) sounded like gunshot "BANG" (made our ears ring).
Furthermore, this is just the gas processor, I have 3 concurrent builds developing....WFC (I have 19 tubesets), Gas processor (this 4" version, I have another 12" tubeset, and I have another 24" tubeset), and ozone/steam water spark plug (powered by the positive feedback loop circuit I posted)
The WFC and the Gas Processor work essentially the same way, and use the same driver. The Water spark plug will be a slightly different beast. I'm not even going to try to manifest every single efficiency Stan did, my main goal is ionizing hydrogen and the electron extraction circuit....those are the paradigm shifting technologies.
I'm finalizing my driving circuit, and working out resonance tracking atm....I have two digital potentiometers/reohstats on the way, I'm working on digital resonance tracking using an arduino to adjust the digital resistors based on sensing coil output of VIC. Also have a handful of CD4017 decade counters on the way to help this endeavor, I also have a handful of CD4046BE PLLs coming if the digital resistor adjustment of the CD4047BE doesn't work (but it should work just fine). Lastly I have a programmable FPGA dual channel frequency generator, with input comparator, sweep function, and phase lock loop built-in that I will hack if need be lol. Failure is not an option...
I also take in all sources, and can connect the dots...all replications have been focused on the WFC, yet that was NEVER the main mover....just an efficient source of hydrogen he actually abandoned...these are facts. The goal isn't and has NEVER been to make enough molecular hydrogen to run a car like it was gasoline....I repeat, NEVER!!!
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Well I kind of disagree on your last sentence but this is just my theoretical point of view don’t worry. Keep on your ideas hope you can find a way to demonstrate this atomic reaction without getting hurt be careful please
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Well I kind of disagree on your last sentence but this is just my theoretical point of view don’t worry. Keep on your ideas hope you can find a way to demonstrate this atomic reaction without getting hurt be careful please
Thank you, this just helped me answer your previous question about measuring the photo-absorbtion. This isn't actually an "atomic reaction" in the normal sense of that phrase. The word "atomic" just means single ionized atoms of otherwise molecular, stable hydrogen. In fact, the only thing that could happen to release harmful radiation, is the photoelectric effect, and photon absorbtion/annihilation at the electron (ejecting said electron) produces "soft-xrays". So, one could detect/measure the absorbtion indirectly with a ionization tube from a smoke detector which would register the soft-x-rays. 👌
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Any ionizing radiation can cause you harm..
And actually also what Stan describe is an atomic reaction we don’t know what will come out from it he probably didn’t knew exactly either… he kept telling that won’t but if hydrogen is consumed it could even release beta particles and other types of radiation neutrons etc so protect your self buy a radiation meter for example some lead from batteries may help to block radiation to a certain degree also there are always isotopes in real life and so you must chose your risks wisely
There are this eye protection googles for laser too you must get one too
There are this laser tubes with mirrors on side and two input output where you can pass the gases
I believe would be a good way to start
Also what I believe may be important is to mix the gas right away with non combustible gas to be able to make a fire and not a flash
Adding some alcohol seem to be a nice strategy to reduce the burn speed too it at least make it more controllable
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Any ionizing radiation can cause you harm..
And actually also what Stan describe is an atomic reaction we don’t know what will come out from it he probably didn’t knew exactly either… he kept telling that won’t but if hydrogen is consumed it could even release beta particles and other types of radiation neutrons etc so protect your self buy a radiation meter for example some lead from batteries may help to block radiation to a certain degree also there are always isotopes in real life and so you must chose your risks wisely
There are this eye protection googles for laser too you must get one too
There are this laser tubes with mirrors on side and two input output where you can pass the gases
I believe would be a good way to start
Also what I believe may be important is to mix the gas right away with non combustible gas to be able to make a fire and not a flash
Adding some alcohol seem to be a nice strategy to reduce the burn speed too it at least make it more controllable
Dude, "Nuclei decay of hydrogen" is a made-up term to describe anomalous heat output of mono-atomic hydrogen compressing down to molecular hydrogen (or likely here, a HO- hydroxyl) and not violate patent law for perpetual motion/energy. It's the same reason the energy equation is omitted for atomic-hydrogen in modern textbooks. It's not nuclear, and hydrogen is not consumed at all. Stan saying the nucleus of the high frequency hydrogen atom acting as energy aperture to release copious energy is the Aether my friend. There is no fusion, no fission, no alpha-emission, and no beta-emission. The only dangers are near-uv cornea sunburn (flash-blind) and the potential soft-xrays of photoelectric photon annihilation (Same soft x-rays as that retired skunkworks engineer's "radiolysis" water car...always forget his name)
P.S. If guide is compressive it will yield "explosive thermal energy" if the guide is diffuse, it yield just "thermal energy"
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The gasses will only spontaneously trigger reassociation if magnetically compressed via VIC orthagonal field being co-wound around the gas processor (both gasses are negatively charged and will not collide/interact unless forced to do so).
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Well I kind of disagree on your last sentence but this is just my theoretical point of view don’t worry. Keep on your ideas hope you can find a way to demonstrate this atomic reaction without getting hurt be careful please
Thank you, this just helped me answer your previous question about measuring the photo-absorbtion. This isn't actually an "atomic reaction" in the normal sense of that phrase. The word "atomic" just means single ionized atoms of otherwise molecular, stable hydrogen. In fact, the only thing that could happen to release harmful radiation, is the photoelectric effect, and photon absorbtion/annihilation at the electron (ejecting said electron) produces "soft-xrays". So, one could detect/measure the absorbtion indirectly with a ionization tube from a smoke detector which would register the soft-x-rays. 👌
I tried the AM ionizing parts of the smoke detector and blew H2 thru them in a tube. My test was not the best in the world, but i didnt see any change in the flame output....
It was a nice test anyway to do :)
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I wasn't expecting the radioactive source in a smoke detector to ionize H2...I was saying it could be used to detect harmful radiation from the high power discharge showed in my power amplification video. (I am now convinced at 100v input it is safe to experiment with the discharge without shielding...it produced no detectable ionizing radiation in neon tubes)
I've been on vacation, then had a large "honey-do" list to get done before the rains start next month. I haven't had alot of time to work on this lately. But I have been still doing what I can, when I can. Will post some things I have discovered. Mostly related to the water-spark plug circuit, and my new low impedance transformer as well.