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Title: Incrementation Basic..
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 24, 2010, 07:38:17 am
ZiArc 9-10

At Sea level pressure"s" Liquid water can only exist at 212°F, Any added heat above 212°F contributes to Liquid to vapor conversion. The rate at which the liquid converts to vapor is dependent upon quantity of heat added after the 212°F mark. The steam created remains at 212°F and doesn't increase in temperature.

The amount of heat/energy required to convert liquid water into steam at 212°F is great. The heat energy absorbed by the water to make the conversion does not increase the water or steams temperature, It is heat that was introduced to the properties, But appears to go nowhere since it doesn't increase the water or steams temperature, it is LATENT.

If you add heat to steam, it can rise above 212°F. The temperature of the steam subtracted from its liquid boiling point reveals its superheat value.

Water in a pressurized vessel will not boil at its normal boiling temperature. Due to being under pressure the waters boiling point Raises. The more pressure you put on the water, The higher its Boiling point. ("If water starts to boil you can Stop the boiling by just adding pressure.) Water can remain in the liquid state at raised boiling points.

If the boiling point of water was raised to 225°F by adding pressure, it would have a superheat of 13°F. Rapidly Bringing the water down to its (Normal) sea level pressure would cause the water to rapidly Boil into steam, (Violently.)

PROPANE EXPANDS -- Propane liquid will expand 270 times as it changes from a liquid state to vapor state. For example, 1 gallon of liquid stored under pressure in a container will expand to approximately 270 gallons of vapor if released to the atmosphere. Consequently, a small amount of liquid propane has the potential to create a serious hazard. This rapid expansion ratio of 270:1 makes propane an effective refrigerant. Enough said for now..
Title: Re: Incrementation Basic..
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 24, 2010, 09:09:19 am
wow very very insightful....

so now i am trying to fully relate it.. are you saying that higher and higher voltage can be applied and as it builds pressure and it will restrict amps better to take on higher charge... then pulsing it will create repetitious burst of production due to the adding a physical bounce to the cell (pressure being gated = physical expanding and collapsing bounce)???? it makes sense to resonate its expansion  i guess.. please go further
Title: Re: Incrementation Basic..
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 24, 2010, 19:55:45 pm
So i guess we can say there is 2 different potentials being applied to the water to create the effects of stans design..  One is of electrical pressure the other is of a density pressure (the pressure being caused by the contained expanding gasses)

Water under a vacuum will boil without heat.. When working on and repairing ac units.. before refilling with freon they must hook the system up to a vacuum. This is done to remove whatever moister remains in the system from being exposed to a outside environment...  So we can say that it is possible to vaporize water into a cold steam by applying a vacuum (a adverse change from sea level atmospheric pressure) concluding that waters exterior status (pressure or vacuum) can and will influence waters ability to  remain in a liquid density or to expand in a vapor density..when usually other effects such as heat and possibly voltage would cause a expansion they do not... as Warp said above when you bring water back down to sea level pressure, after being raised in pressure and heated to above normal boiling temps it is possible to release a higher energy content of steam. Not only that but as pressure continues to fall it will become more violent (more productive in release)
Title: Re: Incrementation Basic..
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 25, 2010, 02:24:13 am
Now I'm thinking about Stans fuel injectors. They allowed a compression state to develop in the liquid to gas stage as its being forced out of a narrowing outlet during expansion from applied voltage... on its way out the the injector it will experience a a state higher pressure due to it expanding from applied voltage and will enter a state of another status...  maybe this allows more energy to be taken on exactly how brains saying you can do with boiling water..   as it exits the injector nozzle it is the state of going from more pressure falling rapidly back to what ever the state of the cylinder is.. You would think since Stan was restricting air intake this would intensify the expanding effect of the fuel gas since the intake stoke of the motor will create more of a vacuum potential in the cylinder .. somthing else stan was doing.
Title: Re: Incrementation Basic..
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 25, 2010, 21:15:58 pm
 :)
Title: Re: Incrementation Basic..
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 26, 2010, 03:43:34 am
Now i am thinking of the other things that relate in to the topic.. We know amps go up with heat and they must fall with cold.. The maximum density  of water occurs at 3.98 °C (39.16 °F).  this is info from wiki.. now with the new knowledge can we say this dense  point varies with pressure as well?

 
Title: Re: Incrementation Basic..
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 26, 2010, 06:28:43 am
Title: Re: Incrementation Basic..
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 26, 2010, 19:33:51 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nernst_equation

http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=15593.0;prev_next=next
Title: Re: Incrementation Basic..
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 29, 2010, 09:22:20 am
ok what we know of is 14.7 psia it the pressure at sea level.. in gauge lingo its 0psi.. at sea level the pressure is 14.7 pounds per square inch  because of all the gas atoms being attracted to earth (gravity)...  this never changes i supose because earths density can only hold so much gases in the atmosphere.. its gravitation force is only so strong..   

so we can say that the 0psig we know of is a quality of earths total density..

when going into vaccum states there is effects of  boiling temp falling and freezing temp climbing they intersect at 122 then up to -60 psi the charateristics of water are 180 out. meaning it freezes at 212 and boils at 32... beyond this point  of -60 the temp values of freeze both begin to climb in opposite directions again as they do when you go into pressure states..

when you go into pressure state you have an opposite effect.. boiling goes into higher ranges and freezing go in lower temps..
when you go beyond -60 it begins to mirror opposite of pressure in the to point of 0psig
so the -30 and 122 is in the center of the whole picture


im gonna go ahead and say i assume these type of characteristics are determined by planets density.. (its gravitation effect to matter which is a force involved in all planet earth processes..


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Title: Re: Incrementation Basic..
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 29, 2010, 20:21:19 pm
I wrote this to share on facebook but i also felt it would apply well to this topic.. Since i think warp is right mosts peoples protocol of experimenting with their ideas and possibilities are to narrow they are not quite focusing on the big picture.

The universe is "alive"  due the the "ripples" in time which are due to natural laws, "attraction" of "opposites" and "repulsion" of "a likes".. This ripple is created by shifts in magnitudes (quantity) and shifts in polarities (direction) of the main "physical" structure "density" due to the action of moving towards the opposite or repelling from the alike we have action which is life... Polarities in nature (the physical structure density) are electrical, magnetic, sound, pressure, light, thermal, etc... These polarities are polarities due to having opposite "characteristics" by the laws of nature  (opposites attract and likes repel)  We can define preset effects of all matter in this structure by experimentation (research)  Man then can make controls of these defined researched polarities which is done through technology.. These polarities all exist in the same spot in space and the intermingling of these polarities are very complex as a whole at any point in space. There actions occurring  as a whole encourage the actions that are occurring in society (reality),  We to are molded to the laws of nature physically..The shifts and magnitudes not only effect are environment but us too! We are part of the physical structure as well... They have defined the waves of moving potential of magnitude (quantity) as frequency (increments) with the measurement known as time..  Density ranges in many sizes.. The smallest known is a hydrogen atom, one of the bigger ones would be something  like gold.. All densities of different size have "different characteristics" to how much energy can pass by, take on, or move that specific density . Technology of man in the mainstream community has barley begun to scratch the surface of what can and cant be done by applying all these polarities in a unison to any matter (density) on a vibrational level of force known as frequency with technology... It does not by any means take a genius to put the puzzle together.. It simply takes passion and participation to observation to create a better good. We can make things beyond mainstreams wildest dream (belief) that can benefit mankind for a long long time.. Scarcity is a lie. Now people may be wondering why there is more of a awakening happening in society presently.. This is do to the fact that space is not a mono-vibration.. There are different spots in space where different characteristics of energy flow in space.. It can heighten in vibration and lower in vibration (frequency) and of magnitude of all physical polarities.. The effect of these changes in vibrations and polarities do alter the states of the conscious mind... We are moving into a higher vibration and have the opportunity to make a non dictating utopia reality by learning the truth of theses effects of natural laws and matter. higher frequencies in space bring a higher consciousness (love) while lower vibrations bring ignorance to the mind (fear and hate)... We can create technology freeing man of jobs and allow man to fulfill his personal divine destiny where man no longer performs work, he performs art (creation).. The puzzle has been given of how to approach completion. Now it is up to us to put it together (participate in understanding which is consciousness) If you desire true freedom where one is not bound and chained in the debt/slave system. you must gain the understanding of energy (action) which is explained how to above.
Title: Re: Incrementation Basic..
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 29, 2010, 21:57:35 pm
Outlaw,

You are a true philosopher   8) 8) 8)

Title: Re: Incrementation Basic..
Post by: Login to see usernames on September 29, 2010, 22:31:16 pm
Thanks Steve, feel free to share it..
Title: Re: Incrementation Basic..
Post by: Login to see usernames on October 02, 2010, 09:23:57 am
Great.

Are you aware of the ice, You're simple answer is probably yes at this point. Take a peak here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice)

By the way, Those Ice crystals to the right are not a joke. Snow use to be amazing unlike it is today. Imagine perfect crystals falling.
Title: Re: Incrementation Basic..
Post by: Login to see usernames on October 02, 2010, 10:24:50 am


Masaru Emotos Book

http://www.google.com/products?q=the+hidden+messages+in+water&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wf

still have  more reading to do will get back on my views of them  phases..