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Projects by members => Projects by members => Hydrocars => Topic started by: Hydrocars on October 26, 2009, 06:44:14 am
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Today I fired up the vic, Glad i did! I forgot how to assemble it. I picked up a few transformers that was not compatible with the system. I got it working when I found the right transformer. The unit only consisted of 1 555 timer.
I am Admiring this setup, Probably for my last time. It is a Sham you boys cant read Kilovolts across your cells.
I will try to make a Small video (Dialup) and show as much as I can and as neat as I can, I'll practice on the camera settings before hand. This may be your last chance to learn how to do this from me, Time seems to be getting away.
I have the Small vic connected to 9 tubes, the production is visible to the eye but is probably not visible on camera, I'll do what I can to shoot a video for you guys, To show you where you need to be playing.
Electrojolt Give me the transformer Core, Contact Him to find out what type of core it is, Allthough i think any HV ferrite core would work, Not sure.
All i can do is video the choke, I do not know what type it is, allthough it is ferrite. I tested many chokes and they do not work. My best bet is I got this choke from a computer, Most chokes found in computers want work. I have some others from computers and they do not work, I am not 100% certain this came from a computer. It is possible it came from an very old tv.
meanwhile just chill, i'll try to upload something for you guys, right now i don't have any neon bulbs which will play a big part in the video, I probably will not measure voltage across the cell, Theres already a video here on this forum where i use a meter across the cell.
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Can you please give us all the details about this setup. Exact schematics, guage of wire used, number of turns used etc, details on how you are earting the isolated ground. Is there a step charge as stan shows in his diagrams.
I would like to replicate this .
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if you have 1000s of volts across the water and only a small production theres probably no use of replicating this. the tiny amount of gas is very likely to be from the small current.
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The production is not small when you're using 1 tube, However it takes time if you're using 9 tubes.
Yes, I will include everything.
Haithar you have no ideal how hard it is to gain such voltages across a fuel cell containing tap water, If it is so pointless why am i the only one able to measure kilovolts directly across a fuel cell?
Your comment, it is worthless if it doesn't produce massive amounts of gas is somewhat insane, There are thousands of people that will tell you that it is "Impossible" to measure kilo volts across a fuel cell containing only tap water with ss electrodes.
To this day, Not 1 person can Provide the Proof in live time demonstraiting kilovolts across a cell, As you mark this setup as junk, But yet you fall Flat on your Face when you're ask how to do it because you simply Can not do it. Weather it is Worthless as you claim it is, Or not, These People working on Meyer wants a "Starting Point." A strong foundation to start with. This i can provide for them of gaining such voltages across a tube cell, or 9 tube cells.
It is Up to the Experimenters to make the Voltage Potential resonate with the water, My only task is to show how to get the voltage across the cell, Not show how to tune it to resonance. My setup may show voltage potential across the cell but at the same time it does not show a relationship between the voltage potential Tuned to resonance with the water molecule. It is the expermineter yet to come that will deal with that.
Your comment is an Insult to the ones wanting to learn, and an insult to me for my efforts to share.
These guy's that are interested, I will provide video for them to take notice of what to look for to gain such a working device, This will help them find the voltage Potential they have been looking for, Dont expect me to cause resonance upon the voltage potential, I am only providing how to gain such a voltage, Not providing how to cause it to go into resonance with the water molecule.
No more insults from you, This will be shared weather you think it is Worthless, Or Not!
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Very Nice Warp i'm really happy for you!
can you describe your test setup?
Regards
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Warning, This may look easy.
These videos was produced for proof to the user or users that wish to try and replicate it. The videos Prove what can be done, If you fail, Keep trying. Once you receive the Voltage Potential or "Meyer Voltage" across your cell it is up to you to take it to the next level and tune the Meyer voltage to resonance with the molecule.
Facts;
1. The Choke consist of 75 24 awg wraps.
2. It was luck to find this choke.
3. No means for testing other choke core sizes.
4. The choke is of special material, Luckily found.
5. The Transformer must not be Soft iron, it must be along the lines of Ferrite, Not crucial but see electrojolt about my core.
6. The Choke was tested for its Undesirable size, No Means to better the choke Exist to date!
7. The Choke Wrappings was Wired once, And happened to work.
8. The Choke may be in the worst possible configeration, Other methodes not tested to date.
9. The Driver circuit is only 1 555 timer, The Old Lawton design with what i think is a .01 UF cap, See video.
10. Fet for timer, FQA30N40, If desired.
11. Diode, 600 volts Glass diode Probably "Optional."
12. Transformer must be connected to the PWM in the proper direction, Guess at will, test at will.
13. The Isolated ground is sometimes not needed, Sometimes is.
14. The higher the voltage to the transformer, The better the Performance.
15. Small gas across 9 tubes in parallel
16. Bigger gas across 1 small tube.
17. Only use Tap water which is an conductive water.
19. Any Size Transformer Will Probably work, Big like mine or small like stans, Should not matter as long as you can get the voltage out, and freq.
Have Fun, And Please share your work. Do not give up. My time in this research I feel is Over, I offered all I could with these videos, If i didn't comment on something then it isn't important.
The Transformer is a bigger version of stans, secondary 36 awg, Primary 24 awg, you can see the entire primary in the video, it doesn't go all the way around. There is another primary not in use.
Please Share.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wOdfP6EY8Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOIoFgn-WaQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xueNufRDBw
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hello warp
I got to say for me with the information you gave us is quite impossible to understand what you are doing. You say high voltage but you might know that only about 50 70 volts can light that kind of bulb no? I made some experiences like this around here. From what you shown your production is very small. Also mine was. I believe you didn't found yet the way sorry to say but i think so.
Make a hand draw schematic of how the things are connected, the core material, number of turns, inductance, voltage being used i amperage the secondary voltage and amperage... This way is possible to understand better what you are doing ok.
I hardly believe that for you is impossible to put a multimeter across he cell and measure the voltage...
Best Regards
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Great job Warp.
To let it resonate with the water, what variables are to be adjusted? Not the choke size,and frequency,since they are tuned for maximum voltage - I think it is important to create a very small cell, like Meyer did in his later work with HV.
The production is not small when you're using 1 tube, However it takes time if you're using 9 tubes.
Try an extremely small cell. ?
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Great job Warp.
To let it resonate with the water, what variables are to be adjusted? Not the choke size,and frequency,since they are tuned for maximum voltage - I think it is important to create a very small cell, like Meyer did in his later work with HV.
The production is not small when you're using 1 tube, However it takes time if you're using 9 tubes.
Try an extremely small cell. ?
The Freq of the Potential to come From the choke must be a Resonate Freq with the Water molecule. I have No Clue of the Freq coming from that choke, I know i Melted it in that setup a while back using milliamps and Rf waves. See the black on the choke? Rf did that not current. This can also give you RF burns at certain freqs.
9 tubes is all i had to offer, i did not have the time to construct 1 cell as i have cleaned out.
Sebosfato, Lets see you light a bulb with 9 tubes in parallel using tap water, YET with a bulb of such in PARALLEL with the 9 Parallel tubes.
It looks easy, you say it is easy, I have thousands of hours in this field, I know without a doubt you are full of shit, I know how lucky i am to be able to do this.
Do not dog me until you do it,, Because more than likely you will not be able to. As far as not leaving enough information for replications, I left more than enough, I left a video and i also give information on the Key parts in order to get this to work.
You are a Bad Seed for this technology, Dogging someones work claiming to have already done it. OK, whatever, I do not see you demonstraigting anything even close to what i have done. My videos is for those boys that want to take it to the next level, We will see just how long it takes for these guy's to replicate my work.
Its on camera, video live showing it can be done, Sebosfato says its easy, So, Lets see them replications. I bet sebo will be the first one to become a Failure at it. Show us your proof Mr Big guy.
BTW, when the light is not in parallel with the tubes, the voltage goes much higher,, Tell you what Sebo, lets see you just put 60 volts across 1 tube containing tap water, see how easy that is for ya, Remember, I Shown thousands on video already using just 1 tube, That video is here on this forum somewhere. You can get the voltage across the negative terminal without any choke, The trick is getting it across the positive terminal as well, That you will fail at. But, watch my video for when you're in doubt big boy.
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Hi, Warp, thanks for the info.
may I ask you something regarding the choke.
It is wound on the the smaller toroid, and there is only one choke on the negative side right ?
Secondly, does the HV across the water gap occur at a frequency band or is it at a particular frequency point?
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sorry warp i respect you and would just like to understand what you're doing. don't worry about me best regards!!!
Did you saw my video ?
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Hi, Warp, thanks for the info.
may I ask you something regarding the choke.
It is wound on the the smaller toroid, and there is only one choke on the negative side right ?
Secondly, does the HV across the water gap occur at a frequency band or is it at a particular frequency point?
Correct, the smaller toroid is the choke. Correct, just one choke. 1 choke is the same as 2, 2 chokes is only an illusion. In the meyer setup you can connect both chokes in series on the negative side, Or you can break them apart and connect 1 on each side, ("it does not matter").
In my video i shown 1 choke of 75 wraps on the negative lead using 24 awg wire.
I could have just as well used 2 chokes, Both containing 37.5 wraps, One for the positive lead and one for negative, This would be exactly the same thing as using One 75 wrapped choke.
You ask about the Frequency, I have no tools to comment on that, But, i know it is easy to hit Rf waves, And this setup can Smoke a choke using a small meyer vic 1" in diameter, it can litterly fry the copper coating and destroy it, it can burn your finger when the choke is cold to the touch due to rf waves, The choke is at its own resonance, it has its own isolated earth ground.
I found this choke, I do not know what would happen if another different choke was added, This you guy's can test and take to the next level, I'm done with it.
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sorry warp i respect you and would just like to understand what you're doing. don't worry about me best regards!!!
Did you saw my video ?
I haven't really had the time to watch your video. Dialup sucks. Forgive me if i was harsh, I'm only trying to share.
I want others to be able to enjoy the setup, it is up to them to get it to work, as shown on video. Once someone starts to replicate this they will see, the proper choke core must be used or you will not get voltage potential on both sides of the fuel cell.
The Secondary 36 awg primary is fully wrapped from one side around to the other, neatly. The primary is the half side of the core i later added over the Main 20 awg primary which goes all the way around, it was not used. There is no hidden Parts in that video, Nothing is hidden. The Video Clearly shows EVERYTHING that is needed to do what i done. I could have very well used a 1" in diameter transformer and gained even better results, "Current flow is restricted when voltage is present." The used lamped only tried to consume some current bringing the voltage down making it weak, It is clearly not weak when the parallel lamp is removed. Placing such a lamp between the Choke and Cell Does not alter the performance, Good amounts of gas can be produced with such a light between the choke and cell using a smaller cell. This is why the size of the transformer does not matter. Do not make it more complicated than what it is, The setup is, Indeed, "Simple." However, The right parts has to be used, such as the right choke core.
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thanks for clarifying Brian
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thus you are using rf waves. :o
I also got the chokes burn but because i hit the transformer resonance frequency with open leads (believe me is almost impossible to reach rf with a 555 timer the maximum some of this chips can reach is 500khz) and it became blue like a plasma ball after 15 seconds of the greatest ozone odor i ever smelled it got fire. Thats why i say meyer did it some way different from that witch is much easier to understand than it seems. However to reach his effect I found that you really need to reach high voltage he described. Check my video I show you how I put 570 thru the water very clearly please take the time to check. I also discovered how works his hyperdrive and steam resonator and why he used more than 9 similar vic unites in his buggy. Read my project check my video and just think about why would I tell you a lie? We already got it patented I don't care if all the world copy it for me is a good thing. Meyer told us the thru about voltage and amps being restricted while allowing voltage to take over on a dead short condition. Do you know why a voltage field is not consumed in an electronic circuit ??? Think about why a transmission line work at high voltage. Isn't it to allow the wire to cary more power with less dissipation? The voltage field flows from resonant capacitor to resonant inductor back and forth just as current flow but in opposite direction right. So you just need to put the water in the way. I can't make it cleaner than this.
Oh boy this is getting good
Now think about what I say and read what I wrote on my threads and you will understand is not possible that you don't understand I'm not joking here. We are at good point but money is needed i don't have any i just got a 20 euros donation (i thank you donator if you want show up) within 5 days is what i have on my pocket to buy what i describe on my project section i need to buy to prove it i'm going to do what i can to do it. I have many interest on this around here in the last 3 days and lots of progress.
Best Regards
Sebos
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Variable Secondary Coil notice.
http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6541711/description.html
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Basic Operation of a Simple Design of Meyer.
This is how I think My vic is working.
To Follow this, Get your mind in Gear. Lets put everything is position, and make this simple. Chokes are like capacitors, they emit emf, or discharges.
A Choke fact that must be known before I begin.
1. Charging The left side of a choke with Negative voltage"Transformer," The choke will always "Discharge" Positive EMF or Voltage back to the transformer, And Continue to send Negative voltage to the fuel cell.
2. Chokes are like capacitors, For Example. They become charged. BUT, Coils of wire has an advantage. When they discharge,, the discharge polarity of the coil changes. Example, There is always power to the fuel cell when the choke is not being charged "Because the choke is discharging."
3. Imagination, When trying to charge a chokes left terminal with negative voltage, That choke is trying to reverse and give back a positive voltage to the negative power source if negative voltage was being used. Vice Versa.
It does not get any Simpler than that!
When I pulse a choke, using my transformer, That choke takes a charge threw the diode and fuel cell, There will be some current flow when charging a choke, in the milliamps.
I use the choke on my negative Side as shown on video. I send Negative Voltage and Current threw the choke to the fuel cell, The fuel cell Reacts to the small milliamps of current used to charge the choke threw the diode, You can see gas production due to current flow.
Once the power to the choke is switched off in my design, A positive pulse of voltage is still sent to the fuel cell. This voltage does not contain current flow. here is why.
When the transformer switches off, it no longer sends a negative voltage to my choke, It is trying to send a positive voltage to the choke, But it can not because of the diode, And, At that same time the choke is trying to also send a positive voltage to the transformer.
When in this mode as just described, it is like hooking 2 AA batterys in parallel with a load between the 2 positive terminals of the aa battery, and with the 2 negative terminals connected, One battery may be weaker than the other, what happens there is not that important.
"Voltage Potential is born." The Negative Terminal of the fuel cell only see's voltage, Current flow "it is not possible." The Choke "Resonates" during the pulse off time.
Understood, voltage is being produced from the transformer even though power is removed, the voltage is also in series with the chokes discharge voltage. Clearly, 2 voltage sources, "Transformer" and "choke" both discharging is in ,,, "Parallel" Just like I described with putting a load between the 2 parallel batteries. "No current can flow."
As i have said, and learned, you will not gain a positive voltage on the positive lead of the fuel cell if you do not use the right,,, Resonating core. The Core plays a Large, and most important role in gaining this potential across the cell.
We Clearly have a problem, Our voltage Sources is now in parallel, and we have a Load, fuel cell connecting the parallel voltage sources together. You see no gas because of this.
Big Rule. As Stated, Stans circuit is clearly neat. My above text shows how ignorant such a design can be. However, In stans design, Which is very important, He uses Biffiar primary on his Step up transformer. What does this do?
When the AA batterys are in parallel, like stated with a load there in between, the voltage source from the choke can go threw the transformer more easily when it is biffiler wrapped. Even though it is like the AA battery method, Biffilar wrapping the secondary transformer "Changes things."
Even though it appears to be 2 voltage sources in parallel, Because Biffilar secondary winding was used the emf from the choke can take advantage of this, A Positive Potential is Born on the positive lead of the fuel cell, But not due to the winding, Only due to the core. My Choke can send such potential to the transformer, "But my transformer is not Biff." SO, i do not get the full meyer effect because of that. During the pulse off time, "The Diode does get used." But, there is 0 current flow, Hence, "Standing wave." This Explains the potential i use in my videos to light Bulbs in parallel with my cell while using tap water. Kilovolts are read across the cell, No matter the water type.
Voltage Potential, What is it?
It can be used to Pick up paper, Levitate it. It has a push pull effect on the water molecule, According to meyer. Voltage Attracts stuff like paper, stuff that magnetics has no effect on. It can attract human hair or whatever. Magnets can not do this. "This voltage potential is what I managed to get across tap water."
Voltage Potential Moves at a freq, In this case the freq of the voltage potential at which it viberates, or resonates is determined by the choke core and coil around it. The choke can be tuned to desired resonate freq of that choke. When the choke is resonating the voltage potential across the cell is resonating. When the voltage potential across the water resonates at the same freq of water, Due to the uniq meyer desin the molecule gets pulled apart by a Voltage Potential Resonate Action caused by the Choke.
I have here kilovolts across a fuel cell, "My core allowed this."
I have here, The Wrong freq of voltage potential to the fuel cell, I know this because the water is not falling apart as it should. My Choke core, and windings, and pulsing circuits is not hitting the right freq of water. However, I have proved meyer voltage, The Voltage is no good because of the wrong freq i am using. My choke may not be able to gain the proper freq due to its size, wire gauge, shape and windings.
A Choke, it is Much like a Magnetron, The choke IS a resonate Cavity. It is like a Mignetron. You send a magnetron 60 hertz and the resonate cavity "Magnetron" Produces Mghz. The Choke to Resonates just like the magnetron, It to can produce Megahertze etc,,. However, the resonate action on this choke should be tuned to explore an wide range of different Frequencies. This is how to alter the Frequency of the Voltage Potential, Push Pull effect on the water molecule. "Tune this choke."
However, I have no current tunable choke. Designs should be made to alter the chokes resonate frequency, But first you must have the proper core material to do this. If you alter the resonate frequency of the Choke, The Frequency of the Push Pull effect on the water molecule will be altered as well. Once the right Push pull effect on the water due to only voltage as been established, the water comes apart. The choke determins the speed of this push pull voltage effect on the water molecule.
You can have Millions of Voltage Potential across the water molecule, Litterly Millions. But, If the Voltage Potential is not resonating across the water at the proper freq nothing is going to happen.
The choke must be tuned so the resonate voltage across the cell can be changed threw a wide range of test. The Choke puts voltage to the cell, whater resonate freq the choke is resonating at is the same resonate freq that will be applied across the water molecule. Aparently I have gained the needed voltage, It is just simply "Out of Tune." The Voltage Being applied across my water is not at the right freq, it is wiggling and rocking at the wrong freq because I'm not smart enough to know how to tune it.
The Biff wrapps of the secondary Transformer Does have an effect on the voltage being dilivered to the fuel cell. Biff may make the potential Stronger to the fuel cell. My transformer is not biff.
There is much testing that needs to be done.
I Posted this for however is interested in what is going on, I am not the best at explaining it, But the goal is to give you the ideal. So, I hope it is a little more clearer now to you. This is not stans explainitaion, it is mine, Just on stans vic. I hope i've helped someone out there.
Also, it will not hurt to try SS wire on this setup, However i used no ss wire to get the voltage potential, And, my 9 tubes does start flowing pretty good after about 1 min, But still, you cant see this great flow on video that well. 1 tube, it shows lots of gas and very good flow. But, still i didn't hit resonance and the flow i was getting was due to the charge of the choke, not voltage potential. Once you tune in your suppost to consume about a gallon every 10 min's, or something along them lines according to stan.
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your description is neath and everything makes sense.
The rf waves and relation of the choke to a magnetron is very plausible to me.
All we need is a right core with a variable connection setting on its coil.
how do you think is the earth ground involved in this?
When you say bifilar secondary you mean having them connected in series ?
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what it means, 2 wires in parallel on the secondary. Its labeled in some of stans drawings of the vic. Just, 2 of the same secondarys hooked together.
The ground is connected to a Resonating coil, I have yet found where to put an antenna. The Choke is tunable, I guess like a radio. Google isolated ground vs ground or something.
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"I use the choke on my negative Side as shown on video. I send Negative Voltage and Current threw the choke to the fuel cell, The fuel cell Reacts to the small milliamps of current used to charge the choke threw the diode, You can see gas production due to current flow."
@warp
i agree with your perspectives for the most part.. u say you hit the choke with the negative output of your transformer.. what are the results from taping only the positive side of the transformer and connecting the negative to ground for both choke and secondary? to create a high positive would that not cause current and diplacement of electrons out of positive choke? i think is makes for sense to try to pull electrons over water rather then feeding electrons pushing them into a barrier such as water. a thunderstorm cloud is a build up of positive energy in the cloud (polarized and missing electrons) it builds enough potential as a positive capacitance that it eventually goes through a atmospheric dielectric breakdown in a sense.. a cloud causes a pulling action on earth grounds electrons.. they condense and build up there capacitance not by forcing them in a confined space but by the pulling of the positvely charged cloud.. when lighting strikes you have the flow of electrons into the sky into the cloud. the cloud in return is sending light aka positive radiant energy back in return... when the cloud takes on the electrons it causes the cloud to lose its positive energy state.. for a cloud to loose its positive capacitive energy state is for water to drop from its evaporated etheric state and condense back to droplets aka density.. when this starts to occur a cloud will start to become dark.. when it is dark it is in a lower energy state there for is capable of taking on more radiant energy rather then reflect (why is snow white?)
all in all the more winds on the choke is like how big the cloud is and how much it is capable of holding as a charge (capacitance).. the water is the barrier just like the atmosphere. (as well as the stainless steel encoperated in the system... stainless is like adding distance between the cloud and earth ground... making it more work to discharge rather then just polarizing on the choke side by side. i would deffinitly think that you would have more advantage at elongating electron orbits by letting the negative choke play earth ground and hitting the positive side with postive emf. that way you are not forcing a current on the circuit but forcing it to pull its own current through earth ground. the pulsing will cause a tickling to the molecule water on the positive plate side of the gap i would think.. once system is charged i see vacuum having to pull electrons across water this.. imagine dielectric strength in a system like that... by only applying a positive emf you are only forcing a imploding effect of potential in the positive choke.. and allowing the abrasive force (electrons) be pulled into the circuit... i myself say the force of negative emf is what causes a choke to get hot.. it may also be due to not a tru 50 percent duty cycle.
one more thing i would like to add.. notice the ripple that stan meyers alternator puts off with 3 phase bridge rectification.. its a steady amplitude with a rippleing peak... how would a scr (silicon controled rectifier) react to the output? would the falling edge of every phase pulse be sufficient for turning off the scr? would this mean that as long as gate is held on to the thyrosistor /(SCR) then you would achieve a high amplitude repitition of the pulse leading edge? the falling edge is allways appearing unseen to the scope since the diode cuts off reverse current... resembling the stan meyer tidal wave pulse??. and how would stan meyers pulsing circuit work for gating that scr.. and how would the right choke react to that?
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As the setup sits at work with voltage present, Kilovolts, There is 0 current flow in those kilivolts. The Goal is to use voltage effects to break the water. Now we have the knowledge of gaining such a voltage, Now, it should be tuned. Current flow I do not think is a good thing.
Any other arangement would destroy the circuits operation, Any arangement to cause current flow will result is low voltage being read across the cell. The circuit, its like its not complete, But due to the secondary polarity and wrapp methode it is complete, Its a Ghost circuit. I leave it at that.
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i think once the circuit is displaced (charged) you rely on the resistance of water to regulate the current.. by relying on water rather then forcing water it will accelerate at its natural freq and occur at its own resonance.
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Hrm, when voltage takes over there is no current, Which is why it can be read directly across the water, Its a strange circuit.
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More on standing wave, "Voltage Potential."
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Litterly Smoking the meyer choke. "Fire."
Also, Check this out, Be sure to check this out.. http://www.tpub.com/neets/book7/27f.htm
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As the setup sits at work with voltage present, Kilovolts, There is 0 current flow in those kilivolts. The Goal is to use voltage effects to break the water. Now we have the knowledge of gaining such a voltage, Now, it should be tuned. Current flow I do not think is a good thing.
Any other arangement would destroy the circuits operation, Any arangement to cause current flow will result is low voltage being read across the cell. The circuit, its like its not complete, But due to the secondary polarity and wrapp methode it is complete, Its a Ghost circuit. I leave it at that.
EZ:
After getting a resonant potential, tune it to water by:
- Adjusting pulse off time without changing pulse frequency
- Change the voltage, it is a physical field, too high voltage will give overlapping fields - HV was intended for the watermist injector.
You are correct with standing waves you mentioned. :)
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One of the main reasons I shared the setup is because I do not have the time to test it. I dont have a scope either. What you said to test sounds like fun though.
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Let me know if this link doesn't work.
http://cid-b8d13afd374bc1de.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Brian%5E4s%20Stanly%20Meyer?uc=2
This Is The CORE that I am talking about, Nevermind the transformer which contained an internal choke . Not a must. http://uqtj3g.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pgpSUoFTGfB-VwqkbkMF-pmDIfsx5vAmHd2LfS6Z54C2gdfYlfyJal1In1GpXjZtuui1kszwv2PzBKuMj3PtxdQ/Choke.jpeg
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Is there any merit to winding the bi-filar choke on a toroid? I'm almost thru with the wrap on a T- 40026 Micrometals core, one layer bi-filar with 22ga.
Needless to say, it is an arduous task. When done, I'll carefully pair the wires for minimum proximity and then epoxy the beast, and mount it on a pretty acrylic stand with screw terminals. If it looks good I'll put it on ebay <grin>
I'll probably just fire the HV solid state DC relay with the frequency generator and take it from there. 7 tubes paralled in my vision cell setup. http://s237.photobucket.com/albums/ff213/keithturtle/?action=view¤t=visioncell001.jpg
Turtle, slow
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hey turtle, No, its actually really simple. Just wind the small toroid with 75 wraps in my case. Again the core is the "Trick" to gaining the voltage,,, Must have right core to see the voltage across the cell. Stick a flouresent lamp in parallel with your cell when it lights you know you found the right core.
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Warp,
I have a few questions for you,
1, what type of diode was that in the video? (specs please)
2, where did the red wire go to - between the xformer and choke?
3, do you think the white wire after the choke made a difference, small inductance with the 3-4 loops?
Also just to verify, connect to a water cell, pulse with a simple circuit, and grab a light. if it lights up I have the right choke.
What was the turns ratio on your x former, input voltage also.
I think you said 75 turns 22awg on the choke for testing the effect.
Do you think the x former core has to be special also?
Thanks for getting me up to speed here.
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No. 1 Diode specifications; unknown and glass passivated oval shaped. I don't think the type is crucial.
No. 2 Between Transformer and choke was an isolated ground adjacent from diode.choke.
No. 3 Small inductance from Terminal wire had no effect.
No. 4 the light will always shine on the positive terminal, your goal is to get it to shine on the Neg, & parall.
No. 5 I don't find the Step up core to be crucial.
Contact my hotmail account by using the coatsbrian before it. Have the core I will find it for you, send to me your Address so i can ship. I have no time for it. The core will be left with you and in return you show others its affect. I've read 10 books in 2 months, one weighed 6 lbs. My mind is not near this, I've also been programming crucial code for calculations, My brain is a wreck , my time is very very limited. Take the core while you have the chance and see for yourself.
My mind is on other things, and may be for a while, And the longer the more i forget about how i've done certain things.
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Dam warp , thats alot of books .
We had one of those books to read this year , it was pretty heavy but I probably read only 300 out of the 1000 pages , rest is for next year . Electrical code ... What you will do for that piece of paper lol . I certainly was not under the same pressure and stress you were on . Any white hairs now lol ?
Its definitly an outstanding achievement , you showed alot of brains and willpower to read all that in such short notice , and under so much stress, you must be feeling good now ?
Anyways , wish you all the best to you and your family . .
as I promised , I will be sending you and jolt my pcb and parts list once im finished , maybe Steve as well . So close now...
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Warp,
I am afraid my testing would be limited to just letting everyone know the inductance of the choke.
Beyond that I would be expermenting - as you have already done.
(don't get the wrong idea here, I would love to have the core and experment with it - but I feel it may be better in someone elses hands. I will check my cores and look for the effect.)
Warj1990
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Dynodon Now has "All" the stuff I shown in my videos,,, "Accept the tubes." There is Absolutely no reason to why he will not be able to perform and show what I've shown in the videos.
I've ask him to share his results,,, "When he gets time to do so."
This,,, Infinite VOLTAGE across tubes has been Passed to dynodon,,, I have no way to test anything right now due to my new business.
I ask you, Please do not,,, Do Not let this Information Die, As Stated,,, And, Clearly pointed out,,, The secret is in the Material of the "Choke Core."
Also as pointed out,,, The Resonate Action of the water Molecule Must be tuned In using the Proper Freq. There May be need in Researching and testing "Diodes." Where it is clearly pointed out here that each Diode holds an Unique set of waves, Amplitude heights caused by different diodes Vary, On and off time also varys per diodes,, Most importantly,,, ("" The Blocking Affect. "")
A Diode Rated At 600 Volts,,, "Which is what I sent dynodon" Means it will Block Up to 600 volts, Beyond that and the diode will become damaged to Back EMF.
Diodes Rated for 30k Volts may have a Slow triggering ON time, A Delay causing a lack of Potential, Most high rated Diodes can't pass amps or switch fast enough. The diode dynodon has is ideal, Its a close path.
Very Small Zener Diodes have "Great" affects even though they are Normally Looked over, Don't have doubts about such a small diode, you may be suprized of its affect as I already discovered.
When the circuit is Improperly constructed, "My Circuit" the diode will surly get HOT. This setup does not Heat the diode when properly running. If the diode becomes heated something isn't right, Shut it down and reconfigure your connections.
Dynodon will share with you what he has, And i've already shared everything.
You wanted "Voltage Potential" across "Tap Water" in the thousands of volts - Now you have that.
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Thanks warp, I hope we can figure this out and get some results, I hope to be doing a lot of solid state testing when I get more time in the summer.
I hope one day you'll return to this kind of project, maybe when we get some more things figured out and you have some free time.