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Title: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on June 28, 2009, 13:29:22 pm: While I am still waiting on my VIC (cough cough )

I will go about on my new tool , an "solid state alternator" . A very fancy sine wave generator if you will .

If you read the Stepehn Meyers patent , you can see he is using somekind of 3 phase power supply with dc offset . In the video he is using this little box thing , thats his driver .

I believe there is something special here with the AC like signal ( more like altering positives ) and the 3 electrodes .

Stay tuned for more .
Title: Re: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on June 28, 2009, 19:11:46 pm: hey dankie.. can you post some relative documents for stephens work on this thread.. thanks
Title: Re: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on June 28, 2009, 19:15:26 pm: http://waterfuelcell.org/WFCprojects/StephenMeyer/20050246059.pdf

There is not much from him , only this patent .

I wonder myself if he is not using a regular alternator here , I believe he is not , from th video its cleanr there is no alternator involved here .
Title: Re: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on June 28, 2009, 23:48:32 pm: seems to me like stephen sees that it will result in cars running on hydrogen, but not what we are aiming for... it seems as if he knows they are gonna try to keep the sales at the pumps so he is developing a home system that will be effecient and cheap for refilling. just a perspective..
Title: Re: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on June 29, 2009, 05:44:06 am: Quote from: Login to see usernames on June 28, 2009, 23:48:32 pm
seems to me like stephen sees that it will result in cars running on hydrogen, but not what we are aiming for... it seems as if he knows they are gonna try to keep the sales at the pumps so he is developing a home system that will be effecient and cheap for refilling. just a perspective..

Thats because hes positionning himself , w/e happens his family made it all .

In that video , those molecules are turning dude , its those 3 electrodes , that dipole gets accelerated . There is no electrolyte needed . LOW voltage , just enough to get the job done you know ...

He mentions how the "moment arm" , torque arm is longest in all the natural world , water has the longest torque arm .

I'm gonna make a testing signal emulator and mess with common caps , inductores .

Im reading about Ham radio dude , I'm aiming at this ina different way now . Always free-flowing , can never stick one one concept you know ...
Title: Re: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on June 29, 2009, 14:02:27 pm: Ok I have identified a possible logic that could emulate an 3 phase alternator . It will be a tricky and bumpy ride tho as always .

it will be good from 10-20khz , more that the doctor ordered .

I am really liking the no-nonsense approach that Stephen has . Theres his driver , the impedance matching circuit ( common components ) , and theres the plate cells . Notice that he was running at 496 hz in the patent ...

I will be providing an extremely cost effective and hassle free solution for a final HHO focused attempt . That way you guys can just work hassle-free on that impedance ringing phenomenon . Obviously , this area of expertise has been totally ignored and left out . I

Its like an antenna , if you dont get that impedance matched , you get get reflection and it dont work - Stephen meyers
Title: Re: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on June 29, 2009, 17:41:16 pm: Quote from: Login to see usernames on June 28, 2009, 19:15:26 pm
http://waterfuelcell.org/WFCprojects/StephenMeyer/20050246059.pdf

There is not much from him , only this patent .

I wonder myself if he is not using a regular alternator here , I believe he is not , from th video its cleanr there is no alternator involved here .

Interesting what para. 0024 says....

So Item 132 is a Triple Tube arrangement according to para. 0020. ;D

Flag 8)
Title: Re: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on June 30, 2009, 07:04:26 am: Quote from: Login to see usernames on June 29, 2009, 17:41:16 pm
Quote from: Login to see usernames on June 28, 2009, 19:15:26 pm
http://waterfuelcell.org/WFCprojects/StephenMeyer/20050246059.pdf

There is not much from him , only this patent .

I wonder myself if he is not using a regular alternator here , I believe he is not , from th video its cleanr there is no alternator involved here .

Interesting what para. 0024 says....

So Item 132 is a Triple Tube arrangement according to para. 0020. ;D

Flag 8)

That seems to be the case flaghole .

His way is 3 electrodes , tubes and plates , he uses both .

Plates are certainly easier to clean for that xogen thing .
Title: Re: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 31, 2009, 14:37:57 pm: well guys i myself have only seen one stephen meyer patent until i believe yesterday... i think stephen changed his name to stephen barrie chambers, alberta canada..

my reasons are the assignee is xogen power inc..

i havent read them yet but there is 4. 3 seem to be the same while one is different, none are the one that has been seen to my prior knowlege...
Title: Re: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 31, 2009, 20:24:33 pm: intresting stuff:

The pulsed signal can be almost any
waveform and have a variable current level, voltage level,

frequency and mark-space ratio[/]
and

The power supply in the present invention is required to
provide a pulsed signal having only 12 volts at 300 ma (3.6
watts). [/]It [/]has been found that an optimal amount of hydrogen
and oxygen has been produced when the pulsed signal has

mark-space ratio of 10:1 and a frequency of 10-250 KHz.[/]
and

The present invention, with sufficient electrodes, can
generate hydrogen and oxygen fast enough to feed the gases
directly into an internal combustion engine or turbine
engine, and run the engine continuously without accumulation
and storage of the gases. Hence, this provides for the
first time a hydrogen/oxygen driven engine that is safe

because it requires no storage of hydrogen or oxygen gas.

[/]
Title: Re: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on July 31, 2009, 20:50:08 pm: The jolt circuit can do w/e Stephen claims in the patent . From the looks of it , it looks really really simple...

He seems to be using 2 alternators in the other ,

I am working on the hydroxyl refilling patent , theres much to test with bobbins and capacitors etc ...

What I find exciting abouit this patent is that we get to play with the impedance matching and test out our calculus math skills , with :D :D COMMON :D :D components finally hurray !!!
Title: Re: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 02, 2009, 00:39:42 am: I have changed my main multivibrator (cd4047) for a LMC555 . I was looking to change my main oscillator for a 74hc series oscillator but I couldnt find a good astable multivibrator in that series . Its all crap monostable that needs endless modifications to make it a constant 50/50 like the cd4047 , I tried a few other custom parts but they are just too small lol ...

The limiting factor of this setup was my main oscillator wich really started to act erratic past 1mhz . My main frequency is 120 times higher than the fundamental sine frequency .

We can now go up to 15 khz with the solid state alternator , so thats 50% more range . I think the frequency will depend on the cell and contaminates . So I am now less worried that I will hit resonance with this extra 5khz headroom . So its a 15 khz AC sine wave that can output up to 4000 mA .

The OP amps get pretty hot and will need a big heatsink

6 of them for all 6 signals ...

The phase delay triple pwm can now have a main frequency of up to 2.5 mhz with f/2 and f/4 of 1mhz and 500 khz respectively .

I find it extremely bizarre that its impossible to find a plug and play constant 50/50 chip like the cd4047 for up to 20 mhz range . But
Title: Re: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 02, 2009, 10:02:40 am: Hi Dankie,

I think you know now enough about pwm's.
Would it not be time for you to start buying some SS plates or tubes?
Make measurements on gas output? See what works best?

Steve
Title: Re: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 02, 2009, 20:38:44 pm: i wanted to post this here since it is relative i believe and i havent seen it spoke of much anywhere ... i have been looking into a simple way to create a pcb... the simplest way i have found so far requires
a cloths iron, laser photo paper (and laser printer) with computer and sofware of course , muratic acid, hydrogen peroxide, a sponge brush, cold bucket of water .. the video explains it well.. i have found a program for drawing up and printing the board on the photopaper.. its called diptrace and they have a freeware version on there site.. http://www.diptrace.com/download.php

i think for the price of the copper clad( new circuit board) and the etching materials it sure beats a bread board and jumper wires.
Title: Re: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 02, 2009, 20:48:13 pm: It would take about 5-10 hours of non-stop assembly to make the whole thing . Thats IF everything goes smoothly .

And theres always mistakes .

Noise is also a factor here for the ramp part ..

So a good pcb is a must .
Title: Re: great 50/50 pulsing circuit
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 06, 2009, 04:31:12 am: I have received my lmc555 cmos timer today . This circuit works great , its pretty much as 50/50 as it gets and much smoother at higher than 1mhz , it can go up to 3mhz .

it works just perfect... This is the exact same circuit I use . There is 500 ohm resistor in series with the pot tho . This is my new favorite chip .

http://www.electro-tech-online.com/attachments/general-electronics-chat/30426d1245242445-how-can-i-make-square-wave-pulses-have-50-duty-cycle-50pc.gif (http://www.electro-tech-online.com/attachments/general-electronics-chat/30426d1245242445-how-can-i-make-square-wave-pulses-have-50-duty-cycle-50pc.gif)

I use the cmos version of the 555 , the lmc555 from national . Can drive up to 20 mA , works 5-15 volts ( WOAH !!! GREAT CHIP !!!!! ;D , awesome work national , the chip is also very beautiful , it has a nice black lustrous shine to it ;D

I tried it with a normal 555 timer and it didnt work , or maybe my timer was fried I dunno , it was old .
Title: Re: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 17, 2009, 02:38:45 am: You guessed it , its harder than it looks to amplify those little waves to to big currents , there was some unexpected trouble with what I tought was gonna be a successful power amp stage . Once you get into higher amps its a whole different ball game than tiny currents .

But I have been getting lazy also with the pcb , delay wasnt all caused by this , you know me lol ... lazy Dankie ...

I have wasted much time trying to get this lm675 to work properly, it requires special care to say the least . Everything has an effect , the lenght of wire , distance to ground . This op amp is so bitchy that it even effects my input signal for crying out loud , something that is unheard of by me as of yet . At first I tought I damaged it and ordered a new one but it was just like that . I'm trying something new now , it was my own design and just bad . I'm working on a design that wasnt made by me now lol .

Here is the circuit I'll be testing lol . Pretty simple ... Well see how this works and thatll be it , needs a reverse voltage diode maybe , seems like this will work .

I'll try this and see how reacts , keep you posted .
Title: Re: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 17, 2009, 13:48:15 pm: ok this thing has drawbacks

I need something with some feedback , or I need this lm675 to work , I'll just use this push pull with my power op amp and no resistor , the voltage will always be -0.7 whatever my power amp is at .

The push pull will just be there to assist the op amp .

Designing an amp stage when you know what load will be there is easy , I am dealing with an X value .

My goial here is to be able to transform this ac wave into higher voltages . As you may know dc pulsing is not great to transform , current has to change direction , this was the reason for the tesla edisson wars .

The problem with AC is that it is more difficult to generate , unles you have an AC motor , but those cant go higher than 3000 rpm .

xogen in the video mentions a digital signal generator ... check ,

and a driver stage ..... uncheck ... still working on it .... I wonder what he used , probably an amplifier stage with some feedback .

It is clear he used something similar to this , but what was in that little black box , that is the big mystery .

One thing is clear , there needs to be AC , there needs to be high frequency , and in my case , there needs to be phase synchronization .

Once I am done with this amplifier stage I will release it for anybody to use with their signal generators, I am confident that much progress will be done when people can use ac @ higher frequencies and higher voltages so we dont have to design an advanced and exotic pulse transformer.
Title: Re: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 17, 2009, 15:28:07 pm: dankie,

i have a feeling the driver for this unit is the vic.. go on the youtube xogen video and fast forward to exactly 6 min and 20 sec... he has 2 batteries, a box you can barley see to the left and 2 drivers.. the box you see to the left is the sig generator i beleave.. the 2 boxes sitting in front of the batteries would be the drivers.. notice the red cables that run from the battery dont go to the little box on the left.. they goto the 2 black boxes in front of the battery..the 2 black boxes (drivers) seem to have a weird top on them.. i dont know what to make of them yet.. with one sig gen being split to 2 drivers and then the drivers are sending 2 red wires and 2 black wires to the cell...
Title: Re: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 17, 2009, 15:52:20 pm: Quote from: Login to see usernames on August 17, 2009, 15:28:07 pm
dankie,

i have a feeling the driver for this unit is the vic.. go on the youtube xogen video and fast forward to exactly 6 min and 20 sec... he has 2 batteries, a box you can barley see to the left and 2 drivers.. the box you see to the left is the sig generator i beleave.. the 2 boxes sitting in front of the batteries would be the drivers.. notice the red cables that run from the battery dont go to the little box on the left.. they goto the 2 black boxes in front of the battery..the 2 black boxes (drivers) seem to have a weird top on them.. i dont know what to make of them yet.. with one sig gen being split to 2 drivers and then the drivers are sending 2 red wires and 2 black wires to the cell...

I really dont think anything conclusive can be found by looking at the video .

I think Xogen has its own method .

Already build audio transformers will work great for the frequency range I am interrested in .

The thing with the VIC is that it is expensive , also , A driver in electronics is a well defined word , it is usually amplification or transistors .

Would it have really changed anything if they mentionned a transformer ?

I think he is using the voltage from those batteries ,

the hydroxyl refilling patent is very open ended , first of all never mentions once what 3 phase powr supply he uses , it is a 3 phase current supply . He says that Higher voltage can be used for higher efficieny but mentions nothing more on how he achieves those . There is the impedance ringing circuit and the AC current source .

Logic would dictate that whatever process he used at 24 volts can be done at 120 or 200 volts if he says so himself .
Title: Re: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 17, 2009, 18:40:40 pm: Ok this thing works , I am using a low power op amp and general purpose transsistors and it works .

The higher the voltage the less apparent the crossover distortion , at 12 volt its a bit ugly , I just remembered that we need DC offset right ? This is clearly done after when he seperates everything , hows its done I dont know , a simple 4.5 v battery can solve that tho ...

I dont know how this will react to a heavily reactive load tho , it should be fast enough to adjst its amperage . The load has a resistance or complex impedance at any given moment , but I think we are covered with todays technology with ns reaction time, this is actually pretty old stuff .

But I wonder if an isolation transformer or any other audio transformer will solve that issue totally .

I want the load to react absolutely normally and see this as wall plug basicly . I wanna immitate an alternators wave as best I can using digital means and an amplification stage .

After much research , I see that this is the most efficient that can be done , the crossover distortion can be ignored . Removing the distortion causes more power dissipated . This is gonna be it I think .
Title: Re: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 17, 2009, 20:18:45 pm: somthin like using higher freq to make a low hertz signal right... like if you were using 100khz as the main signal then that 100khz has its own rise and fall time that resembles a low freq sine wave?
Title: Re: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 19, 2009, 23:14:54 pm: Ok I am finished in my book , this is the best that and most efficient that can be done by me , I have researched it . I am simply using a classical audio amplifcation , a better working high voltage op amp good up to 100 mA and power pnp and npn pair (straight push pull ) wich have a gain of 50 . So w/e load we have our op will dish out load circuit/50 and mimic that voltage , the op amp is the limiting factor here and ofc good heat sinking will have to be done with transistor and op amp . This will require 2 or more batteries or perhaps an upgraded dual power supply , I'm thinking of bulding me a good power 24 volts high amps dual power supply ( maybe this wont work not sure still ) . The op amp I chose is good up to +-45 volts and has no drawbacks like the 4 amps power op lm675

It will include my very own super easy to use multi phase delay pwm , it is similar in function to the hex controller . This is not like regular pwm3board , you only choose the main freq with a pot and choose the phasing of f/2 and f/4 with 2 other pots , the phasing is locked to a small window , it adjusts itself according to the main frew , very intuitive , very easy to use the duty is a constant 50/50 tho (http://www.overunity.com/Smileys/default/sad.gif) .... Sorry , too hard to make it otherwise , would have lost the ease of use ...

my perfect 50/50 pulser , the word perfect is not there if not there for nothing , and if you wanna have control over the duty cycle of the main freq just use the wonderful free source jolt circuit ( not included ) wich is like an ideal lawton circuit without the bugs of 2 slave 555 . And hook it up to my perfect signal processing logic for an always smooth start and finish . Its up to you ...

And my pride and joy creation , this thing is quite a unique product , my dc powered solid state alternator wich will be good up to 20khz and good up to 5 amps/ 40 volts . This can be = to any number of alternator you want as much as you have the pnp npn power push-pull and some other slave op amps for driving them. So basicly once you have the driver circuit , you can add infinite numbers of alternators for about 5-10 $ , this is AC folks , you can run any transformer with this as long as the core material keeps up . Multiple alternator setups are perfectly synchro ofc and phases are locked to 120 degrees all the time . The frequency is controlled by any oscillator ( potentimeter ) or any VCO , for future upgrades ( (http://www.overunity.com/Smileys/default/grin.gif) (http://www.overunity.com/Smileys/default/grin.gif) (http://www.overunity.com/Smileys/default/grin.gif) (http://www.overunity.com/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ) , It can be amplitude modulated by simply moving the voltage level on a pot or a wave perhaps ?? (AM (http://www.overunity.com/Smileys/default/grin.gif) (http://www.overunity.com/Smileys/default/grin.gif) (http://www.overunity.com/Smileys/default/grin.gif)) This is as close as it gets to the Xogen Black Box .It is the driver from the Hydroxy refilling patent .

To make this possible I am using state of the art adaptive filtering and 2 stages of post filtering to keep the sine wave as pure as possible across a wide frequency range ,. First , I lowpass this to take out oscillations from the chip . After that , I had to calculate matched high and low filters to counter my amplitude drop across the range , This gets done for each phase !!!!$^%$$$ This was done not only for the beauty of the wave but so you dont have to adjust the gain constantly , I am going over over my way to get this and over the limit and still getting as pure wave same amplitude across 50hz to 20 khz .When I say pure it is pure and 100% noise and transient free , across the whole range #$$%#@!!! This is all powered by DC analog components remember ;) .

This does not requires annoying pulleys and high watts/rpm motor . It is much less noisy and messy , I dont know much energy a motor takes to go to 3000 rpm with a 2-3 amp load but this has the same energy requirement at 50 hz and at 20000 hz . The only wasted energy is the energy waste by the transistor and heatsink to form that wave , so about 30% ... But no motor !!!

It will be the smartest buy of 2009 so save up that $ , let your imagination to the rest ... Tell wifey you want this for christmas lol ..

I am about ready , so who wants one ? Raise you hand so I know ehere I'm at , I will only sell once the pcb is there and working ofc .

anywhere from 300$ to 400$ , ofc if everybody here takes ones itll be less expensive to buy the dam components and less expensive for everybody . It could even go below 200$ . If I get like 100 orders or more ...

Can you say Plug and Play ??!!!
Title: Re: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 20, 2009, 03:28:55 am: Ok I trust most of you will save up a few $ and wait for further testing , those that were interrested are you still here , for 350$ more or less .

I am confident every experimenter will simply adore working with this tool .
Title: Re: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 20, 2009, 06:32:31 am: I'd like to see a video of it powering a cell, then I'll consider.
Title: Re: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on August 20, 2009, 13:22:04 pm: Quote from: Login to see usernames onaldwfc on August 20, 2009, 06:32:31 am
I'd like to see a video of it powering a cell, then I'll consider.

Sure no problem , this will be done .

I wont make the impedance matchings tho ::) , I'll just hook it up to a cell and show you the waveform and amp draw .
Title: Re: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on October 07, 2009, 23:02:31 pm: http://plitron.com/audio_elec.asp

http://www.plitron.com/PDF/pat4133-ES.pdf

Here is what I wanna use for my step up .

I am aiming for 600 volts from a 12 volt supply or 600 volt from a 24 volt supply .

Most large caps become to bulky and uncommon past 600 volt .

An already wound toroid ( NO NOISE ) thats built for the so called audio range .

If these cost more than 50$ each I am screwed , I want 3 or 6 of these .
Title: Re: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on October 08, 2009, 03:57:26 am: ROFL , 280$!!!!!!!!

Are these guys insane ? Thats a fuckin rip off for 10$ core and maybe 5$ of copper .

I will look elsewhere , I know this costs nothing to make seriously .
Title: Re: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on October 08, 2009, 22:26:46 pm: http://www.justrealmusic.com/content/transformers.htm

Heres what I found @ 50:1 ratio

58$ is alot , I think I will just look for a lower step up , maybe 20:1 or 30:1 , if anybody knows where to find good cheap transformers with good setp up in the audio ranges plz let me know . Toroidal is has great benefits but I cant seem to find any good cheap ones . There just needs to be an isolation between the amplifier and cell circuit .

The frequency cutoff -3db must be AT LEAST 20khz , even that is a little low , my oscillator can go up to 20khz .

We are aiming for low frequencies here ,Puharich was using a 600 hz sine with an dc powered audio oscillator and tube amp stage , and the ringing was responsible for all those ghz range harmonics .
Title: Re: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 28, 2009, 23:50:33 pm: Quote from: Login to see usernames on July 31, 2009, 14:37:57 pm
well guys i myself have only seen one stephen meyer patent until i believe yesterday... i think stephen changed his name to stephen barrie chambers, alberta canada..

my reasons are the assignee is xogen power inc..

i havent read them yet but there is 4. 3 seem to be the same while one is different, none are the one that has been seen to my prior knowlege...

I wonder if this Stephen Barrie is related to Meyers , who is this person ? Is it really his brother or another unrelated person ?

I will soon release the phase shift oscillator on this site , just drawing it up atm , it just seems like this circduit has no use besides the fraud of Bob Boyce and it therefore dead on arrival .

My 3 phase system will be ready soon , working non-stop @ my rate lol .
Title: Re: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 29, 2009, 02:04:44 am: someone said that stephen barrie was stans brother in law.. so it would be his sisters husband... did he have a sister i dont know...
Title: Re: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on December 29, 2009, 03:12:52 am: Stan's twin brother is married. Stan was married. I don't recall Stephen Meyer in his interviews mentioning a sister. I think it was just them. So it may be one of the wive's sisters who is married to Stephen Chambers. I don't know. It all gets complicated and in the end doesn't matter.

Regards,
Andy
Title: Re: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 03, 2010, 22:09:09 pm: Heres an update on what I have been doing .

I have been working on a wide bandwitdth filter to remove the switching noise of the switch capacitor filter .

The goal here is not to have a bunch of filter ranges but to have only one , That is why i opted for An 8th order active bessel . I tried many orders of different kinds and this work nice . There will be 3 of these identical filters . Also, I am using the 74hc series now for ultra fast settling and better noise immmunity .

The range of this filter will be from 300 to 20,000 hz .

@ 300 hz the switching component is reduced by lots but still slightly visible , @ 400 its 95% gone , 500 and up its pure sine low low THD . There will be some hand selecting of components here because we are talking less than 1% , E192 resistors from digikey and some hand chosen caps from the electronics store . Asymetry will cause phase distortion and not a pure 120 , perhaps 121,119,120 etc ...

So now that I am even more satisfied with the THD level I am hitting on the pre-amp and amp stage , wich will be much less painful with a good sine . It was a bumpy ride last time because of all the noise induced by my breadboard , and I couldnt even test it on my pcb .

The LMC555 had some duty % stability problems near the higher frequency end it was more like 58/42 wich causes jittery settling time when you change the freq ,I am now using now a new super low drift super high symetry 50/50 duty state of the art oscillator from linear , 50/50 is very important here , the highest we will go is 2.5mhz so I expect the linear IC to be very solid even tho tho I didnt try it yet . 300hz from 20000hz will be selected by 2 x 1M ohm pots , the cap is internal to the IC . For some very fast sweeping . Will make things significantly easier for a PLL add-on .

http://www.linear.com/pc/productDetail.jsp?navId=H0,C1,C1096,P2186 (sot-23 grrr , hate these but I have no choice )

I anticipate this to be EXPENSIVE for those that still wanna purchase one from me , I dont expect much volume here @ all , this is the driver that I will be using for my research .Due to the long man-hours involved here for just making one of these , Istill dont know what I will do with this , perhaps a pcb run that people can buy , obviously before that is done I will have to contact a legal expert and see how I can protect my work from copycats , it will depend on what I can do to somebody who tries to sell my work , I dont want no hydrogen garage con-artists to be undercutting my work . Since I dont have a super-computer that can simulate this beast or a 5000$ licensed simulator with all the exotic parts that you can simply upload , everything had to be ordered from digikey and tested by me here on my breadboard (ouch) . And I tried ALOT of stuff :'( (ouch$).

I have removed the overly complex phase shift oscillator from my pcb due to space limitations and its overall uselessness . I will post it here once I get myself to draw this biitch . My harmonics oscillator will be there tho , for those that are too lazy to make one yourselves . I already posted the schem on this site ... I removed everything that belonged to electrojolt on my pcb , but an add-on will be possible for those who wish to use it with my auto-gate and pulse protection .
Title: Re: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 08, 2010, 01:15:35 am: Ok updates .

The circuit will only include preamp stage .

Meaning that there will be 3x 300 mA buffer driver for the push-pull npn pnp . I am certainly not gonna include 12 x fist sized heatsinks and components for the 2 x 3 phase sybchro alternators specified in the patent . Its all alot of work but deffinitly worth it . 50% maximum theoretical losses of what the load consumes . No 1000 watt motor with losses and speed limitations , not to mention portable and easily controllable speeds . For a motor you need advanced 5000$ pwm systems or a manual VARIAC lol or even a magnetic break .

Unfortunately I cannot find a good enough rail to rail +24-24 buffer so the amplitude will be a maximum of +12 and -12 . Rail to rail means thatyou can go almost +12 and almost -12 . So you use all the battery voltage you got .

Still shopping tho , I want this to have a possibility to drive a cell straight up with no transformer besides an 1:1 isolation transformer for better impedance isolation .
Title: Re: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 10, 2010, 09:06:37 am: Ok update soon.
Title: Re: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on January 11, 2010, 14:36:48 pm: Ok well , Its gonna be ab with some biasing , wich sucks , means 20% more wasted watts .

I would of liked a super feedback class b yet ab , Ill try it and see if it works anyways .

6 of these will have to be constructed , 6 big * heatsinks with 12x transistors . Shouldnt cost more than 70$ lol

1 per phase , 6 phases in all . I mean 3 phases x 2 .

Anyways this thing is gonna be just a joy to work with if everything turns out right .

Cant wait till spring break and experiment Meyers style .

Im gonna be really really busy at school this semester .

This thing can be used as an hvdc power supply as well , always wanted one of those , but the main oscilator will have to be changed for a goodl old cd4047 and the filter will have to be tuned , because the linear oscillator cant go low frequencies .

For those who wanna do this I will tell you how , just change a few resistors and caps and solder a ghetto rigged oscillator.
Title: Re: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 01, 2010, 17:47:14 pm: Yes , this is the final version , after 100's of hours of grueling work . On this board lies perfection . On this board lies the future of HHO research . I will bankrupt Hydrogen garage once and for all . in case it wasnt already bankrupt .

A harmonics oscillator with gate synched EEC , with 2 mosfet and room for 2 x 30 watt heatsink

A 200-25000 hz dual 3 phase oscillator pure sine oscillator , pre-amp includes 6 x amps 50 p-p volts 300ma each with room for 6 x 20 watt smt heatsinks . pnp npn /w heatsink not included .

A 4 quadrant synched amplitude modulator with independant carrier and modulation amplitude and frequency , Puharich style . Uses a single driver as mentionned above .
Title: Re: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on February 01, 2010, 22:50:54 pm: Tell me if you see any mistakes haha !

A mistake means wasted bucks , this aint so cheap and small board like Jolt . Frikkin 3 minimum ...

The op amps wont get here till at least a month anyways .

Every new scan costs the exact same , even if you just added a single drill hole . This is how they make their money .
Title: Re: New project : replicating the Stephen Meyers driver
Post by: Login to see usernames on March 27, 2010, 08:37:18 am: This is fine - you could use simply - an IR2133 - 3phase chip - to do this - and then you need a big toroid - with three separate transformer windings - each driven by an output from a phase of the IR2133 chip...
You also need to make sure that the "charging chokes" are exactly wound to match your cell...(one VIC circuit per tube set)-and that the "alternator winding" - secondary of the toroid windings... matches the whole VIC circuit - because when the cell and charging chokes and winding - go into parallel resonance - that the secondary winding does not interfere with the parallel resonance....(read between the lines patent 4936961). Also select the blocking diode very carefully - so that secondary breakdown point occurs at the right voltage - allowing - proper - parallel resonance to occur - for at least the last 3rd to 5th pulse of the oscillator...hmmm.. This allows you to get proper extremely high voltages on the cell - before and after the oscillator stops - step charging the cell...
regards
cardac