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Title: This Patent
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 29, 2009, 14:45:54 pm
what do you guys think

it's not Stan,s, but it has a lot of the same stuff going on

also explains why you cant just coat your tubes with a thin layer of insulation as you try to split water with high voltage

and assuming you can get some proper ceramic it would probably be a lot simpler than Stan's, however i don't know how efficient or productive it is.
Title: Re: This Patent
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 29, 2009, 15:11:44 pm
I'm more interrested in this whole maxwell scalar theory stuff .

Ask electrojolt is this is efficient .
Title: Re: This Patent
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 29, 2009, 16:22:39 pm
This is what I did when I tested using 2 TV flyback transformers. It didn't make one single hho bouble.
Title: Re: This Patent
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 29, 2009, 19:15:10 pm
This is what I did when I tested using 2 TV flyback transformers. It didn't make one single hho bouble.

Jolt,

What did you use as container?

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Steve
Title: Re: This Patent
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 29, 2009, 19:44:15 pm
This is what I did when I tested using 2 TV flyback transformers. It didn't make one single hho bouble.

It says you need a material with a dielectric MUCH greater than water, 75 is a pretty high dielectric, but it says they had one around 3500, did you use some ceramic material?

The ratio of dielectrics, 75:3500, is the important factor in putting all the stress on the water.

Title: Re: This Patent
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 29, 2009, 21:56:43 pm
This is what I did when I tested using 2 TV flyback transformers. It didn't make one single hho bouble.

Jolt,

What did you use as container?

br
Steve

I used plastic and water to make the high dielectric container

P = Plastic
W = Water as dielectric
Z = Water to break
M = Metal


MPWPZPWPM

applied 50KV to both Ms
Title: Re: This Patent
Post by: Login to see usernames on April 30, 2009, 02:16:34 am
yea, according to this patent you definitely did not have the right ratio of dielectrics to get the stress focused on the water. consider the ceramic with the dielectric value of 3500 as the "resonant charging chokes" used to restrict amps and let voltage do the work. plastic might have a dielectric value of 2 to 10
Title: Re: This Patent
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 01, 2009, 11:41:50 am
patent: ionization collision
meyer techbrief:
 Applied together, electrical forces (TT') and (UU'), now, causes these moving electrically charged particles to
superimpose a physical impact unto electrical polarization process (160), as shown in (170) of Figure (3-
25) ... thereby, increasing gas-yield (88) still further.

same principle?
Title: Re: This Patent
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 01, 2009, 15:11:22 pm
yea, according to this patent you definitely did not have the right ratio of dielectrics to get the stress focused on the water. consider the ceramic with the dielectric value of 3500 as the "resonant charging chokes" used to restrict amps and let voltage do the work. plastic might have a dielectric value of 2 to 10
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Donald , you do the material research and come back to us with something physical that we can buy for reasonable price and we will try . Ask these guys how much it will take to coat a tube with this ok ...

This ceramic you speak of , find it , for cheap . And tell us how to install it without some complicated process .

I have never heard stan mention any particular coating besides , and Dynodon has told me that the tubes were bare .
Title: Re: This Patent
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 01, 2009, 15:49:58 pm
it's not stans patent, and don't tell me what to do
Title: Re: This Patent
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 01, 2009, 15:55:45 pm
it's not stans patent, and don't tell me what to do

Thats right , you just saved yourself alot of trouble ...

Title: Re: This Patent
Post by: Login to see usernames on May 03, 2009, 05:15:48 am
yes, and for reasons not worth explaining to you