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Sebosfato / Re: My new approach
« Last post by Login to see usernames on June 07, 2024, 23:55:09 pm »
From now the pcbs cost 150$  plus freight each without the external components

If you are not willing to waste time that’s the way to go

When they arrive the price will increase again

Each cell should need a pll to work

I cut some plastics and copper to make the capacitors that should be around 5nf

The capacitance can be tuned easier than a coil in some cases

Now I’m wondering how I’m going to put the cell inside that tube and make their connections
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« Last post by Login to see usernames on June 07, 2024, 02:30:56 am »
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Sebosfato / Re: My new approach
« Last post by Login to see usernames on June 06, 2024, 19:28:27 pm »
Quick update I’m going to use my last transformer although it has a 4.8 transformer ratio I will use a coil before the full wave bridge rectifier so should do ok buts 435 v

So I’m going to make the secondaries for driving the coil over it

The feedback coil may have 1 turn…

Must be in the center of the other coil with shield and insulation this is what the isolated ground really is!

The amp inhibitor coil is nothing else than a coil in series before the rectification so it takes only ac

The only coil that must have dc is the air core coil

When you have a core it’s inductance change with dc flowing so you never will get tune
Sebosfato / Re: My new approach
« Last post by Login to see usernames on June 06, 2024, 06:08:49 am »
That’s for all the comments on the YouTube videos lives and shorts you are great guys

Seems we have a nice community

The coils are going to be 6 forming two in paralllel

Giving 18ohms impedance

It will be given 30v in series to each by two secondary’s having 1/3 the primary turns

The secondary will depends on the water purity

But considering pure water I would go for maybe 270v making 1:3 secondary

Also on the same leg of the core probably the I leg the clamp coil having taps as on the previous coil I builds

All 5 coils must be wound one over the other except for the 30v secondaries that are on the bottom side by side but isolated to 5kv from each other 5kv at least

Over it goes the primary and over the primary the clamp coil and over it the 270v secondary that is connected by full wave bridge to the chokes

The input is variable so at this point is 90v and the watts on each choke is 50w being 1,6amps

On the C leg of this transformer a higher voltage coil is provided for example a 1:10 secondary  or maybe more

This should give 900v at this point but will not be able to give any much power out because it has a high leakage to the primary coil

This coil is also connected to another full wave bridge rectifier in parallel or maybe even in series with the other

Over it the feedback coils will catch the phase of this coil and provide a lock at the tuned frequency when current drops to zero in it the phase goes to 0!

To increase the bandwidth a secondary having 300turns so 5:1 to the resonant coils will be put over it

Also connected to a full wave bridge rectiier in parallel with the others

This will act as a load on the resonant tank out of tune making its Q factor lower

This also should be low coupled to the resonant coils so a good gap where some steel can be inserted to control that is a good idea or add a outside coil in series before the full wave bridge rectifier this will restrict the amps and allow the voltage to pass when current drops to zero

When this coil reach 1000v that is 1/5th of the voltage on resonant coils it will provide more current than the other secondary coil making it a light load and such that the voltage output is in phase with input

The  cell need dc with some power capability and high voltage dc at same time for when the impedance rises but this second source need to be high leakage so it won’t consume much power when under short condition

A way to do that is to add a third leg on the core closing the magnetic circuit of this secondary

A third source as explained as output of the resonant coils as secondary also with some high leakage so can be in series with the others as well

Another way to restrict the amps  or add leakage to this coil is to actually add some coils in one direction than winding on the opposite direction and than on the same direction again

This will keep the voltage the same but increase leakage and resistance this can be wound from end to end one layer over the other since the layers will have the same voltage because of the direction of the windings

To keep it very simple I would put it in series with the other secondary that has already high leakage and than connect the full wave rectifier to it

This 3 secondaries coils can indeed be connected in series or parallel

Dc is dc so this is just for having dc with variable impedance output

What really control the phase is the ac part of the system the other two secondaries with 30v!

The tuning is done by sliding the core in the first transformer or adding a variabile coil where it needs

Remember dc is combated with resistance while ac with reactance

So to restrict ac is much better before it become dc !

This is why adding the secondaries in series will give a good way to go

Just need to be carefully with the voltages so it don’t burn the diode

Adding some protection to the diodes would be ideal!

This is done adding some tvs or something like a snubber in parallel with the diodes

As the current is not so high will be easy to have more diodes in series if needed

But to add them in series this sort of capacitance network to help them share the same voltage is needed!

Otherwise they will burn one after the other

I learned this when I visit a gigantic particle accelerator on the university they used 1n4007 for the 1milion volts

Tjousands or it in series with this kind of stacking with resistors and capacitors

They keep the voltage as low as 100v per diode

So you get the idea

Ah and lastly

The coils capacitance should be as small as possible…

Sebosfato / Re: My new approach
« Last post by Login to see usernames on June 05, 2024, 19:26:17 pm »
Lot of  work this days

I blame myself that I didnt discovered all this before if it was so simple .
Sebosfato / Re: My new approach
« Last post by Login to see usernames on June 02, 2024, 21:32:02 pm »
So the great finding is that the secondary will have a higher voltage or peak when I get the water tune if has a low coupling

This will help find the right spot

Basically one way to trap it is to have the secondary on this small transformer so that it is vey losely coupled to the primary

And than pulse it sweeping at the tuned point

If the feedback coil is ove the secondary it will be more coupled to it than to the primary so it should captur the phase of the secondary coil (need a good gap between the coils

The primary can have a input resistor to limit the voltage it will also help the voltage peak when current drops

Basically I need to look this seondary voltage phase in relation to primary when there are in phase the current dropes

In my setup I can change the cavity length so I’m going for a fixed resonance frequency maybe just a very small variable coil to change it a little once I find the correct one

The first thing is to make the coils very well balanced

I hope having the same number of turns and being in parallel should help

Interalating them rediuce the coupling with eachother while favor the coupling with the opposite coil seems to be the correct way of doing

Or maybe if connecting the coils in series could be useful too as would rise the series resistance I may try in series next time I’m going with parallel because I thought it first and seem simpler

To make them in series would be something more complicated

I mean to have them well coupled

Makes sense? Thinking About that a Thinner coil would couple even better

But than we start having less turns so lower inductance
Sebosfato / Re: My new approach
« Last post by Login to see usernames on June 02, 2024, 20:44:32 pm »
This  200ma should give 1000 volts on the coils

So considering all the coils 1.2amps this make the impedance 9 ohms

So if the primary coil let’s say have 50v for it it would need a 1:5 step down because it need to have 11v to apply this current …

As we have 1501 turns on the secondaries and they are all in parallel I imagine they will get the same induced voltage but as this is an air core probably the wire length matters

This coil had 196m of wire in it

I used cianoacrilato to make it hard as it is wound randomly on the layers

My wire has the size of a 28awg but the resistance of a 29awg they sold me it as if it was 29

It may be a bad copper purity so basically is a 28agw but it’s a little more resistive like it was a 29

I will have to live with it

It take a long time to cool down the machine… I decided to add some ventilation to help the variac that is suffering and the motor
Sebosfato / Re: My new approach
« Last post by Login to see usernames on June 02, 2024, 18:06:15 pm »
I just finished one coil it went very well but the motor kind smokes I added a capacitor to try lowering the voltage and better use the rectifier 10mf 67v seem to help have more force with less voltage applied

So I took the former out and the coil kind of got some loose but it’s ok according to the theory

With 54 ohms it will consume up to 5 w with 200m amps each coil in resonance

Has 5koh at 10khz so it mean a Q factor close to 100 considering one coil only

I decided to start again as the wire got loosy and now I’m going to use something to glue in between the layers so the coil stay in form when I take the pressure out

I added the separator before now to avoid having the coil to open

Forgot to put on the left side to though but I hope the glue keeps in place or maybe I don’t take the thing out at all or maybe just cut a piece out since is 3d printer is easy to cut a slice

It’s like a dream coming true

Sebosfato / Re: My new approach
« Last post by Login to see usernames on June 02, 2024, 12:18:56 pm »
How about active filtering or active signal processing

For example a very tiny core with two coils one primary one secondary pulse with 5v and connect in series with the power secondary

If the current on the power secondary is zero the phase will be zero on the tiny secondary

Now we put a resistive wire on the secondary

It will do what? Well the secondary voltage will only be similar to the input voltage when current is zero or very low

So it may be a manner to simply detect the resonance and lock to that frequency on water

I was asking gpt about it and seems the feedback coil would get more coupled to the primary mutual inductance so it would not present a lag when anothe coil on the core is loaded

So it need to be connected in series to get useable signal

If for example it has 10v induced and 100ohm a 100ma signal would be able to distort the phase very well

But as we increase the resistance on primary or secondary we get more sensitivity

Sebosfato / Re: My new approach
« Last post by Login to see usernames on June 02, 2024, 06:17:47 am »
How would you know the current drop to zero?

Well the secondary voltage will peak

The series variable inductor should go to the Lowe’s t value

Any series inductor or resistor would have a drop in voltage so would not be useable

So the way to go seem Stan splited the system into a resonating coil that is tuned to the cell and the Vic that finds and tune to the cell frequency

And on this Vic he uses this low coupling to advantage and make the phase zero when the current is zero so the feedback winding start making sense I guess if I’m not confused

Anyone ideas about?

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