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General Discussion / Re: S1R9A9M9 18HP Briggs riding mower engine ran on water( 2008)
« Last post by Login to see usernames on January 28, 2025, 13:20:50 pm »
My current two cents:

If the videos are real and that little motor was sucking water into the carburator and if it is true that no other substances have been in that waterbottle, like alcohol, then the only thing left is an electrical system that prepers the waterdrops, like by partially ionizing orso, and then apply a powerfull spark to that drop of water in a specific speed on which the water has time to react and explodes.

All those strange coils can mean anything, or are decoy.



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General Discussion / Re: S1R9A9M9 18HP Briggs riding mower engine ran on water( 2008)
« Last post by Login to see usernames on January 25, 2025, 08:35:45 am »
amazing that you keep finding new stuff .
Keep on going!
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General Discussion / Re: S1R9A9M9 18HP Briggs riding mower engine ran on water( 2008)
« Last post by Login to see usernames on January 25, 2025, 05:13:00 am »
Proof That Nathren's Briggs Engine Had Dual Alternators!!!


    You Tube Smack investigates claims of S1R9A9M9 time  6:03

Briggs 18HP has alternator cable hangs down behind starter motor and oiling tube. See cable against metal casting, see white 2 piece wire connector, and 2 wires there.
Long time back I directly asked Nathren about engine serial number to get capabilities such as alternator. He flatly denied that it had alternator under flywheel. He even said there were no magnets under flywheel. He started protecting his + shop technicians invention.
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General Discussion / Re: S1R9A9M9 18HP Briggs riding mower engine ran on water( 2008)
« Last post by Login to see usernames on January 25, 2025, 02:53:09 am »
I am currently collecting original tech statements for my new file folder on JUST readings from Nathren, non technician,  and Son as technician also same name Nathren. Father signed in on forum as S1R or S1R9A9M9. The son signed in as Nathren. You can tell the difference in the writing quality. Not using statements from other technicians. Data has to be from the horse's mouth.  Mr Ed could do better. Two views on this was (1) Hydrogen generator at spark plug from using Briggs dual alternators power after 18HP Briggs engine up to Idle speed.  10 amps flow current direct from alternators output.
(2) Special circuit applied as RESONANCE between the water capacitor at plug gap + L coil Inductor in series as being equal and adjusted, to the input AC alternators frequency at idle speed RPM. The Magnetron as negative high volts out goes through the S1R coils assembly and fires an accessory spark gap and connected to ground through the outer extension cord with end plug breached. There is over 100volts formed on low voltage side of S1R coils by leakage inductance intentionally made. You already know that. The 100v and alternator AC is applied to the "cell" spark plug gap of salt water capacitor.

The Briggs plastic ring alternators have the opposite end of magnet wire grounded on bottom side of ring to the engine casting top. The bottom of spark plug is grounded the same to casting. I was guessing both ends of output wires put together to get 10amps from 5 +5 amps. One line going to plug, and casting travel for the return to opposite end of ring 2 wires. The brown extension cord becomes the usable ground for any other spark gap in the deli plastic tub hanging on side of 18HP.

The original 2008 Youtube video from "the Smack", - man that looked over the wild claims, said that Nathren mentioned resonance phenomena using coil + spark gap resonance. The idea was that the resonance allowed for fast expansion of polarized NEGATIVE water vapor as over charged with electrons. The molecules repel each other. Process happens at lower piston travel under change of compression, at late timing ATDC. So......... The AC power flow is through low voltage side only , through the inductor adjustable, and to the salt water capacitor spark plug. The extreme high volts not needed. My old file on this method I had labeled "Induction type power supply" Diodes cannot be used as stopping any resonance.
My current problem is figuring out how engine was originally started / fueled in 2008, to get to IDLE speed since there is extremely low volts and current from alternators at time of engine cranking, at lowered RPM of flywheel and 12 magnets. The temporary Battery DC, before being disconnected in 2008,  has power and needs DPDT relay ac vibrator buzzer with frequency adjustable by capacitor used, to make AC for starting purpose. The on/off dual sets contacts pass the changing direction current. A low frequency transistors INVERTER would work also at 13-14v AC. The transformer 12 to 14 volts AC may need to be hand wound. The Inductor would be sliding adjustable inductance bolt inside plastic tube as wrapped with magnet wire.

I did an outside test of old push mower engine using PVC T fitting and hose connected to carb. Center stuffed with metal screen and filled with CARBIDE STONES. Poured water on stones. The engine started fine and sounded just like gasoline engine. The acetylene gas formed pulled into combustion chamber by manifold vacuum. I wonder!............. Tell me that you read my message.
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General Discussion / Electrical Load Current Used +Stored In Capacitor And Resused For Efficiency
« Last post by Login to see usernames on January 25, 2025, 01:21:32 am »


Another simpler electrical bench top circuit project could be done, but others will complain to you about it and say your wrong. New technology is "always wrong" to most people and those with degree certificate on wall. They don't want to hear of things like this.

9 Volt battery, jumper wires, capacitor, incandescent low volts bulb, lumens meter, push switch, and seconds stop watch. IN GENERAL now, a capacitor is not an electrical load. Some are more efficient than others , like polypropylene types. Electrolytic caps store more energy and are considered DC type with polarity. A motor or resistor are considered electrical loads. You can RUN an electrical load from source power volts THROUGH bulb load and through capacitor to opposite pole of battery. A battery that's charged is out of balance with too many electrons just on one side. IT wants to be leveled at zero. The load can run for 6 seconds and show work done as light emitted and shown on light meter. Battery disconnected. Bulb can run again on stored power from capacitor and get more work done. Meter shows amount of lumens. Bulb used direct from battery shows APPROXIMATELY same lumens on meter for same time period. Measure current used with/without capacitor! Did not say overunity or free energy. You are just making use of circuit as more efficient. Also 2 caps in parallel in same circuit , can be switched in series for double volts and put SOME energy back in battery as well as the earlier work done. A battery needs slightly higher volts to charge. Manuals available from EAGLE Research called Energy Conserver. They use large computer capacitors as better as main power than a battery as exact formulas can be used with capacitors. Check it out!
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General Discussion / Re: How the VIC Really Works
« Last post by Login to see usernames on January 23, 2025, 18:46:59 pm »
If anything yes.  But there will always be water bridging the electrodes, so all we are mainly concerned about is the value at least resistance so we can design for appropriate reactive impedance.

If you were referring to this post, there will always be water bridging the electrodes at some point, even if it was only at the edges of the bottom where the water enters.  It's unavoidable.
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General Discussion / Re: How the VIC Really Works
« Last post by Login to see usernames on January 23, 2025, 13:31:22 pm »
If Stan’s WFC was producing sparks, it would indicate a breakdown of the water’s dielectric properties, allowing an arc between the electrodes. While this seems counterproductive to the VIC’s goal of maintaining a high-voltage, low-current field, sparks could occur if the voltage exceeded the breakdown threshold of the water’s resistivity and dielectric strength.

This might have happened during testing phases or, possibly, as part of the design for water injectors intended to replace spark plugs. These injectors may have deliberately utilized sparks to ignite the hydrogen-oxygen gas mixture.

Although I have not personally observed sparks in my setup, I believe it is possible with precise tuning. The small gap between the tubes (1 mm or less) and the formation of gas bubbles could create a temporary air gap, making conditions suitable for an arc to form.
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General Discussion / Re: How the VIC Really Works
« Last post by Login to see usernames on January 23, 2025, 09:15:55 am »
I remember that the brother of Stan mentioned that the wfc of Stanley was producing sparks....

Can you position that statement, with the current knowledge of you?

Cheers!
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General Discussion / Re: How the VIC Really Works
« Last post by Login to see usernames on January 19, 2025, 23:25:59 pm »
If anything yes.  But there will always be water bridging the electrodes, so all we are mainly concerned about is the value at least resistance so we can design for appropriate reactive impedance.
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General Discussion / Re: How the VIC Really Works
« Last post by Login to see usernames on January 19, 2025, 22:00:01 pm »
So how do we deal with the issue that the resistance changes when gasbubbles occur?
The more hho forms, the higher the resistance, i suppose?

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