But why you believe that? Did you ever got any monster gas production in this condition or maybe amp restriction with some gas?

So far as long as I ever see only magnetic field could indeed interfere with the ions

Please explain what you mean … I understand of course whatever scientific term you use

Let’s try to get somewhere

I tried hard to find any changes in water resistance with lab view and got nothing for a long time

Do you have different results?

What make you believe that? and according to your perspective why would current get restricted?

On my theory when current get restricted for example water have 220v backemf and I apply 200ma for example this result in at least44watts going in ( is just an example ) dis considering the resistance let’s say was 500ohm Woud cause hundred volts  drop consume for a total of 150w or so when ther is no energy acumulated applying 320v result in 640ma initially and when the restriction works it drops to 200ma

So this need a 200w power supply just to kick in the power and when it’s charged it drops to 144 (wrong ) because the restriction
(Correcting) I confused voltage for watts in this example actually this hundred volts on the 500ohm is consuming 20w so when “charged” in this example the power would drop to 64 w ! 20 for the resistance and 44 on the backemf
Again this is just an example so you can understand how it all relates in this idea

The resistance of bubbles would be linear increasing as the bubbles increase do you agree?

If the current is taken from a backemf the graph is exponential like Stan show the amp restriction graphs

Current = (vin - backemf) / ohms

The higher is the applied voltage the greater is the restriction because it’s resistance increases exponentially as energy get accumulated on the water cell in form of vibrations generation or if in for of induced electric

Like the piezo anti resonance it’s movement and deformation causes the bemf

When Meyer says he used voltage as potential energy and water as source of electrons it become evident that the cells together with this structure and fields can propagate potential thru the water tube but capture” current at the tips by using water as source of electrons

Another way of view it is you have two baths connected by a wire that goes to a grown inside each bath

Than each bath have a cell and they are connected like before in tandem with diodes shorting the cells

If we place this wire over the cooktop it will give the baths a voltage ac but the cells will use this ac potencial and drive current thru the diodes

In this case the propagation happen thru this grounds fluctuating by the wire

So the ground is receiving ac giving to each cell half reaction

If the ground is a catalyst it may help reducing the loss of potential there and it will probably heat up on this reaction

Heat is another form of energy that can cause voltage

Well the point is without this wire and grounds the induction is propagated thru water itself

I used to log in and keep an eye on Tektrical / electrotek. I guess people didn't pay much attention to him. He was investigating HV experiments, spark gaps, plasma etc. He was in his 70s, I guess he is no longer here. last log in Nov 2022. maybe Covid, maybe just time caught up.

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I wouldn't be interested in HV across water. Theoretically, H atom is 1 proton and 1 electron. Electrons are the same thing out of a battery.
X and Z is based on freq. R is constant; V and I vary. The sawtooth output is max HV and then decays to zero. The primary circuit has switched off, so cannot be damaged by the secondary.
I experiment with HV FBT and my interest is short circuits, which is V/R = I, the R stays constant. This is why I was interested in elecktrotek's experiments with neon light transformer etc. V moves electrons, remembering there is a HV diode. FBT don't need to be "resonant", it is one pulse at any time and Idle time in between.

I never thought to ask electrotek what he thought of Stan Meyers. I don't think he was following SM

I remember reading his posts about it

My impression is that Meyer hid so well his ideas behind citation of other patents

Like the tay he Han and the ultrasonic one…

Reading that and seeing other parents that cited it as well I started to think Meyer was far more intelligent than he wanted to seem

I mean he had that thing but would not show not even talk about what really make it work but did in such a manner that show so many things and parts that keep people right off from it…

In Hollywood films this is how they explore the ideas they show you one thing to get you amazed so they can literally talk shit and you are still thinking on the shiny thing you saw before

Meyer used this to hide the essentials while he could show lots of details

In my research on the ultrasonic patent he cited I came across the phenomenon of anti resonance in ultrasonic piezo

That is welding piezo are driven this way to keep it feed with high voltage and low current so when you apply pressure and change the resonance it than suck power in and weld plastics

The thing is that applying it to water become clear that the cell is simply a resonant cavity but also possibly a transducer

So if driven to certain condition it will acumulate energy and this energy work back generating a back emf that cuts current flow

The Vic is simply a transformer to push power to the cell but it will only work if the cell have the correct fields configuration “magnetic” and frequency

Without it is just a piece of metal that will never have any other result than electrolysis

This lead to another idea that I started on the past ten years that was the water coil

Where I tried to induce the high voltage by electromagnetic

However I used a long water line and a transformer instead of a resonant atestem so although I could get some voltage the water ends when connected to each other would result in zero current

So I designed other ways of doing it

All that because if we get te energy from inside out the voltage drop should be less of a problem for efficiency since it’s reversed so we would be using the electricity and the gas

I wanted you to know that I finally found out what that

frayed/stub wire was for, on that original S1R9A9M9

triple coils assembly. It bugged me for a long time.

The first notion was that of a tap to ground for a

transformer type thing. Not so. A small Inverter box

was hidden in cement block, just as plastic tub was

covered and painted over that contained parts- not

foreyes of the public.

 From the paragraph in the old web forum from Georgia,

there was a reference called the 60 turns coil wire

test on car engine plug wire. The set up caused 

reduction of current on meter when the ignition fired

through the cable. The outer 60T of 20A current reduced

down repeatedly to 12 amps. There was an induced

reactance ohms in the coil that caused less power to

load. This is what happened when S1r coil was first

tested on Briggs engine 2008, using Inverter box.The

tap was for power leading to Inverter primary side

input. About 11amps was needed for Inverter. When

ignition fired, the power was reduced going to

Inverter. The wire was then snipped off, no longer used

and input would then come direct from JOINT of Battery

+ then later alternator stator DC rectified full wave.

The 18HP Briggs had stator of red and blk wire type, so

as called DUAL alternators. Output was 4A DC charger

and 5 amp AC for headlights.When bridge rectifier is

added , the output becomes 15v DC at about 14.8 Amps

capability.Power divided to Sir coils and Inverter. 11A

and 4Amp so as close to 15A total capability. Nathren

said source power needed was about 15amps.
 
The S1r coils was an ELECTROMAGNET to form magnetic

field for ATDC timing change extension and necessary

field for tips of spark plug. Nathren had said when

engine fired, the magnetic dropped during firing.(way

less current because of increased ohms added to load

resistor.) The 7 turns wire upper section affects the

extended tap wire when it was used.

7 turn 90 degrees winging coil has no iron core.  13T

coil has iron core as S1R9A9M9 electromagnet. The joint

of 2 wires had a stub cut off visible with frayed wires

in the enlarged photo.