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Sebosfato / Re: My new approach
« Last post by Login to see usernames on June 26, 2024, 17:56:34 pm »
There is a point that seems an oscilation of the water resistance at first I thought was the bubbles but perhaps is just amp restriction

Now is time to also test the rolled flux capacitor cell

Hope I can go back in time and tell my self in the past the secret and also for my dad to take vermífugo Anita!

Sebosfato / Re: My new approach
« Last post by Login to see usernames on June 26, 2024, 13:34:29 pm »
I gave it a first try this morning it indeed resonates at 10,5 kHz as I planed

The resonance voltage seems 10 timers greater than water but vary

Water resistance with 50ma flowing in resonance peaks10kohm making 40v for 4ma with some gas output

Not impressive at all

But the circuit does exactly what I planned

I didnt added the diodes yet loading the resonance only the series diodes

The  resonant voltage become half at 9,5 kHz

As I predicted it may be only at a single frequency that we may be able to get some more effect

I didn’t go over 20 w yet

The ideal was to try measuring the gas output vs this amps going to the cell and see if faraday law was broken

I have some pressure sensores so I can also hook into labview and try get on that later I just need to make sure the cell don’t leak before

The amount of gas seems to small for a flow meter to operate

The wave form on the water is very strange very noise

I’m going to make a nice study of it and start selling the results

This results are gold! If I had the before build I would have spend much less time to get where I’m now and to where I go

So they are really valuable

I’m going to split all the info into documents and I hope some get interested in getting this short cut

By the way I’m pretty sure Stan did exactly this circuit not because I copied from him but because it’s the simples and best way of doing it

He never show the real circuit only very simplified schemes but as he said once you know the language of science and get the prior art knowledge is evident what he was doing and saying and why and even what was misleading

I luckily had the time to see water break with few ma

Now we need to see if is economic

Sebosfato / Re: My new approach
« Last post by Login to see usernames on June 26, 2024, 08:35:01 am »
Lets hope on a mirical  :)
100 liter per sec  8)
Sebosfato / Re: My new approach
« Last post by Login to see usernames on June 26, 2024, 03:04:42 am »
I just finished installing everything

I’m curious what’s about to happen!

I’m just confirming the connection are correct and play!

Now I have 1 ohm resistor in the negative side coil to track the resonant amperage
I may add another one in parallel for reducing the power and also for safety because if one burn the other at least save my inputs of the labview

In doing this stuff and burning 10s of thousands of components and equipment I learned to be double cautious aways!

And a 0.06875 ohm to measure the cell current with a ni92411 differential module

The resistors are 5 watts type  wire wound

So I ground this end of the coil because of the reading and therefore the high voltage will be on the ends of the coils and the Vic

If I were going to take the reading only of cell current it would be possible to make it an isolated ground providing that point would not pass beyond the requirements of the diferential module that is 250v

So that mean a circuit need to be in a safe region where is attached to a reading device

The ground is also on the Vic primary so if we don’t provide a resistor at least to ground and or maybe also some kind of tvs or variar or in parallle with it the ground from Vic side will capacitvely destroy the reading equipe te with high voltage

However if is lightly grounded it I’ll have that highe voltage between the primary and secondary on the Vic

This is the only way of doing!

I still have the counter for only the pll frequency and discarded the gate frequency reading as is not relevant now

Also the temperature readings were omitted to try getting more datapoints

I combined all datapoints of cell current to a xy graph so it I’ll talk e all the reading over the others as function of frequency so if any thing is going it stop being a straight line so will make a very easy way to find it

Every time I stop the thing it plots this result!

Cross your fingers!
Sebosfato / Re: My new approach
« Last post by Login to see usernames on June 25, 2024, 14:34:32 pm »
I posted some shorts on y YouTube on my top tech channel

Hope you can subscribe and leave a thumbs up there to help this content reach more people and help me reach at least 1000 subscribers to start getting some money from YouTube videos to help the project…

Sebosfato / Re: My new approach
« Last post by Login to see usernames on June 24, 2024, 23:29:56 pm »
I was able to reduce the data intervals  to 30hz but im not happy with that

I believe the cavity being high q will probably have a band lowe than this where we can see any action

The solution is to reduce the channels to get more sample rate

Another way is reduce the scanning frequency of the so doing it slowly it have the time to capture the event

So perhaps instead of using the counter to measure the frequency I may use the current signal from resonance

So plotting only the current vs cell  current is the fastest way to go

Than extract the frequency from the ac current by software calculation

I just realized that reducing the band of the pll is what it takes

After all I got 30 because I was scanning thru like 2000hz if I was doing slower and or reduce the band it will scan they a narrower band maybe 10 hz maybe 100

Sebosfato / Re: My new approach
« Last post by Login to see usernames on June 24, 2024, 11:27:39 am »
3 days later now labview save automatically a table having all the values  and plot real-time graphs

So all the info can be analyzed carefully on spreadsheet

Now that I learned how to do it is not so hard but it took me the whole week to get here

Working 120 or more hours per week is not easy

Now I can make anther excel file with the graphs with the source info from the table generated by labview to get more control over the info

Next step is try to get more samples in to get a higher precision

For that I may need to get into the building blocs of labview and make it work

Is a lot of work needed but will worth it

Now I can develop nicer products with this info

Sebosfato / Re: My new approach
« Last post by Login to see usernames on June 23, 2024, 17:51:45 pm »
At the end Stanley pll patent was about this

The wave form that shows how it behave

The feedback system that works charging and locking
General Discussion / Re: S1R9A9M9 18HP Briggs riding mower engine ran on water( 2008)
« Last post by Login to see usernames on June 23, 2024, 05:42:04 am »
 Water Power Engine

See data regarding S1R9A9M9 from 2005-2019. The Georgia work shop converted several cars to water , of 4,6 8cyl engines along with Briggs 18HP mower engine. See his several briggs videos on Youtube. Web forum shut down. Electrolysis of zero ohms sparkplugs with salt/baking soda water. Low power, but it works. Battery for start only. Then battery completely removed. Engine then ran on alternator with special made triple coils step down transformer and a few other parts. Timing changed with magnetic field over plug wire. Lots data available. (Hydrogen gas and also water vapor pressure both contribute to piston pressure . (Late timing was about Zero continuous to -negative 34 degrees at 10 amps . The 3 technicians in workshop said 100v + 6-7 amps required per pulse, at about 34% duty cycle for one cyl engine. ) The flywheel has to go all around for next high volts pulse. 2 ways for power supply.

Either fully ISOLATED inverter to dc with using 30kv series diodes protection bank that requires more input battery power to overcome 20v voltage drop, OR, less wattage ISOLATED Inverter to DC and using no protection diodes section, but with Varistor about 18v DC , with sealed tube spark gap 18v, open spark gap about 750v and using all those with the added CAPACITOR 70 STEP UP HIGH VOLTS FERRITE PUL;SE TRANSFORMER with PF capacitors,at LC resonance, and initial spark gap adjustable. The S1R9A9M9 coils assembly has underneath plug cable that allows --- cross leakage inductance voltage of 90-120 volts in series with the low volts line. See pictures of the S1R coil USED ON THE BRIGGS ENGINE .- You have to understand that both primary and secondary of hand wound step down autotransformer requires full core steel under both sections. The coils picture made public only has metal under the primary side 13 turns. (Picture was not the original) The shop people did not disclose everything! Also most people don't know that alternator parts are interchangeable to large magnets type flywheel as on 16-17HP engines , also with the double yellow wires ring alternator of Maximum current output. The 18HP one Nathren used, had dual 1/2 alternators with 4, 4 amp capability. You got it now? The step up was for 10 amps usaage.

His old car converted was V8 1978 El Camino that ran on 18MPG water for about 3000 miles before being locked up in security garage. Inverter insulated from car metal. Two batteries used on car with alternator charging both. Free electricity for workshop with v8 on engine stand running on water line with power generator. Water vapor pressure with the small Hydrogen produced and fired at spark plugs. 7 amp pulses on oscilloscope.These engines have to have EGR adjustable valve., or added on. The cars had 400watt inverter with many diodes, and (2) in series 1.75millihenry inductors inline to spark plug. The High V comes in exactly at cathode of center diode between the coils. There is also an effect here called radiant energy at that point so that follows down to plugs. (Coils and diode were under sealed vacuum in a Bakelite chamber.) These were referred to by the technicians as the "Magic relays". Not used as functioning type relays, just for the inductors as passing high voltage and low voltage through them.
Sebosfato / Re: My new approach
« Last post by Login to see usernames on June 22, 2024, 14:09:14 pm »
Labview allow to make plots of voltage current impedance and power as function of time

I’m trying to find how to make it plot info vs the frequency instead of time since I’m searching for a very specific frequency

My idea was to plot the cell voltage vs current and frequency and all other info related like power input voltage input etc

This will guide me like if I had a lantern in the dark and allow for more consistent tests and results

And all the info can be printed and saved as charts and tables to build charts graphs

This is scientific method being applied

Of course a simple multimeter could be used in series with the cell to read amps or even in parallel with the resistor

However having all this equipment here and keep shooting in the dark seemed stupid to me so I decided to take it with the best possible way

At the same time is so new to me this is so old in industry and used for so long that it seemed a good idea to make plots

What do you think will happen?
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