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Re: New idea
« Reply #32 on: May 09, 2009, 06:13:46 am »
Hello Dankie,

I am assuming you are speaking about the videos in which I step charge caps with just a 555...if so let me clarify.

1. Yes the coil is a 1:1 choke I recycled....I don't know the exact values sorry (will work w/o it)

2. I am unsure which coating you mean...please specify what u are talking about....(If it's about Meyer, I believe Meyer's needs insulation on an electrode...if you are talking bout the effect in the video of me making high energy Arcs....then YES the electrodes need what Bearden calls a "Degenerative Semiconductor"...what I called corrosion. It won't work w/o it

3. Any time you connect + and - they neutralize and release energy. Take for instance -acid (vinegar)  and + base (baking soda)...when they combine they release a lot of energy and leave u with a neutralized solution....same thing when we connect  + and - poles of electricity (arcs)...I believe they release small particles physics calls neutrinos...not to be confused with neutrons. It was just a thought really, maybe they are aether particle Idk.

As for the primary...you need to specify which video.

If you are talking about the ADP adapter and MOT I was just pulsing through the primary to create a self inductant rise in voltage and give me the bounce effect of iron core (inductance)

If you are talking about the 555 timer step charging caps....that was just straight output from 555 into the coil primary. Nothing else, no amplifier stage....straight 555 powering 5kv neon sign transformer LOW POWER!! The secondary was full wave rectified.


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Re: New idea
« Reply #33 on: May 09, 2009, 06:49:11 am »
http://www.ionizationx.com/index.php/topic,1027.0.html

In this post , this video . Step charge...Smaller capacitor... Perhaps you would like to add all videos in that thread , theres a few videos I missed Alan told me .

Yes I was talking about the electrodes being coated .

Sorry for so being un-specific .


Also , plz clarify once and for all to everybody , wich is the correct connection .

Plz ignore the pink coil and diode of one of the images , look only @ the VIC
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Re: New idea
« Reply #34 on: May 09, 2009, 07:12:06 am »
In that video the tube-set electrodes in the cup of water were not hooked up. It is straight 555 output into the primary coil, nothing else.
Sorry if you were confused...I used the capacitor as a stand in for the WFC because the WFC is WAY TOO LEAKY without insulation. (Naudin Solved this by insulating an electrode as per my suggestion... He stated after insulating the electrode "I now see the step charge effect")


The neutrino comment was my initial interpretation of the magnetic field. I believed the magnetic field was a directional flow of neutrinos ( I am not worried about naming it anymore....only interested in the effects)

I can produce this step-charge now very easily...in fact, this is my best step charge circuit yet

The mechanical action gives a much more crisp off time and uses about the same power as the 555  12v @ around 20-40ma ;)

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Re: New idea
« Reply #35 on: May 09, 2009, 07:25:24 am »
In that video the tube-set electrodes in the cup of water were not hooked up. It is straight 555 output into the primary coil, nothing else.
Sorry if you were confused...I used the capacitor as a stand in for the WFC because the WFC is WAY TOO LEAKY without insulation. (Naudin Solved this by insulating an electrode as per my suggestion... He stated after insulating the electrode "I now see the step charge effect")


The neutrino comment was my initial interpretation of the magnetic field. I believed the magnetic field was a directional flow of neutrinos ( I am not worried about naming it anymore....only interested in the effects)

I can produce this step-charge now very easily...in fact, this is my best step charge circuit yet

The mechanical action gives a much more crisp off time and uses about the same power as the 555  12v @ around 20-40ma ;)

Thx for saying this , somebody I know also told me so use SCR's instead . Feel so bad for doubting him , but I was gonna try it ...

What if the water was just purified ? This coating stuff is gonna get $$ and complicated , this coating , have you tried it ?

I see you have answered my question about the connection, sorry hassling you .


Yes , I know your water cell was just there as decoration and not connected to anything .

So this charge that was in the capacitor was from where ? It came from where ? The Vacuum ether ???



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Re: New idea
« Reply #36 on: May 09, 2009, 07:54:54 am »
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Re: New idea
« Reply #37 on: May 09, 2009, 08:12:37 am »
The coating of the tubes can be very primitive to test, something like waterproof acrylic paint??...Idk still testing. Naudin used a sheet of clear adhesive backed tape.

Purifying the water would work at first....but water self ionizes making it conduct..I am still testing

The charge in the capacitor was from the inductive Kick Backs of the square wave...research what Bedini is calling Negative Energy (These spikes)
I can attest to the odd nature of it....why he is calling it "Negative" Energy...I prefer the term "Cold" Electricity.

I don't think I could properly explain everything right now....I need to write it out and compile some sort of "lesson" or presentation that ties it all together. Maybe something on here?? I will work on it and some more videos...because I have found some things that would blow your mind if you could add it all up.

I have found that "They" know it all, and are using bits and pieces of this technology in other aspects....for instance, you should research Plasmonics ;)

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Re: New idea
« Reply #38 on: May 09, 2009, 11:57:05 am »
Hello Joshua, glad to see you here.

This has been on my mind for some time:
the displacement current that polarizes the dielectric water produces a magnetic field, because charges do move - now, doesn't this always oppose the cause of the movement - the dipole - and kill it?
- Now, I think I answered it partly below: the dipole is negative energy, which kills the water instead.
Seriously, the ionic current caused by the radiant spikes will cause ionic collision, dissociating water further - as quoted by Meyer:
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Water bath atoms (93a xxx 93n) having missing electrons (92) take-on a positive electrical charged (95) which is
subject to and moved by negative electrical force (UU');
whereby, the liberated and free floating negative charge electrons (92) are subject to and move by positive electrical force (TT').
Applied together, electrical forces (TT') and (UU'), now, causes these moving electrically charged particles to
superimpose a physical impact unto electrical polarization process
(160), as shown in (170) of Figure (3-
25) ... thereby, increasing gas-yield (88) still further.
This wouldn't happen with an EEC on the water bath, as he stated in the NZ lecture.

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The mot/adp setup shows an interesting effect, what did it do? 'pulsecharging' or intensifying the flux density?
If so, did it produce a stepping voltage?

more q's to come  8)
thanks

to continue my own theoretic research about the coil setup:
I believe there always has to be a single countering field, to simulate self inductance, but induced by another coil, - (mutual inductance?):
- in the vic, with both transformer and bifilar on a single (toroidal or I) core: the primary induced field opposes the field in the bifilar, thus opposes the current, but not voltage from building up (don't know if this happens, but I want this to happen).
- in the stand alone bifilar without a transformer on its core, like demartins setup, first pics in this thread, same story.

I also did think the pulses are positrons / radiant / negative / cold energy spikes, this can only happen when all current and energy is consumed by the chokes.
These video's show it.

http://www.youtube.com/user/NRGFromTheVacuum

Now what did Bedini say? the negative energy charge on the battery produces an ionic current in the battery, what causes it to recharge it - while maintaining the dipole in the first place?
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Re: New idea
« Reply #39 on: May 09, 2009, 23:14:54 pm »
@Alan
Hello, glad to be here...

The act of Polarization does in fact always oppose the cause of movement. That is why you get opposite charges when polarized.
However, this work can be done w/o any currents of the conventional type. It can be done with static electricity...

As for the EEC you are correct the collisions would be prevented by rerouting the high speed electrons to a separate circuit.

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The MOT/adp setup was measured by me and a third party....I don't know if you have seen the video where I ran a motor and water cell from it...but, we both measured an EXTRA .5 watts on the output side.
What was happening, was that the adp power supply was tricked into resonance with the coil....the output from the ADP was a ramp wave biased +....so it never fell to ground state. This energized the MOT coil and created back surges when the ramp waves collapsed... It only worked with a "corrosion" layer on the contact terminals. This is Bearden's "Degenerative Semi-conductor"...


As for your theoretical research keep going... there are indeed large back spikes in the Meyer setup provided by the pulsing of the VIC....The chokes do not "consume" anything....they create a large capacitive/magnetic field that "holds" the electrons....(electrons being - they are effected by magnetic fields)

I would encourage everyone to read as many Tesla patents as possible....Meyer applied Tesla's "Radiant" energy patent to water. I will elaborate more with pics and stuff later...for now I gtg later.