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« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2009, 21:04:17 pm »
Right current arrow should point down in both configurations
or does it??
right hand rule proves me right, but voltage difference between ground and negative (current from high (0v) to low (-v) ) proves you right.
am a bit lost lol

Put a hv wire in some water with dirt n stuff in it .

Particles will follow direction , w/e it is .

We then design our cell with this in mind , the current must be opposing direction but also the rotation the the magnetic flux .

Remember that Zeropointunlimited had his stuff connected in opposite way , this is like if we connected both ends of our coil to a single tube .

One wire connected one side , other wire connected the other side .

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« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2009, 19:37:36 pm »
I dont understand , wish I knew more ....

I will comment and say that this image is confusing ...

Also , the norths are aligned when bifilar
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« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2009, 19:52:31 pm »
If you don't mind:

pls comment.

Alan and others,

From my experience, and that from others experiences, i can tell you that the + and - are NOT going into the coil from the SAME site of the coil.
See my drawing.
I also added a diode, which can be very helpfull.
The ground was in my case , switched by a FET and timer circuit.

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« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2009, 20:14:53 pm »
Alan,

You are looking at an abstract drawing from a patent.....
My setup gave me the step-up charging ramps, like Stan drawed in his patents.

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« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2009, 20:18:30 pm »
The aiding connection always gives production , shitty production tho . Especially with the s/s wire .

The magic is not going on with the aiding connection ,  when you use copper wire with bigger awg , suprise surprise the production goes up .

But it always sucks when measured against brute force .

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« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2009, 20:41:11 pm »
Ok simple question, I'm looking for clarification.
Ive seen images were both the secondary and 1 bifilar are both conneted to grounded (earth)
I've seen images were the secondary and bilfilar are connect but isolated with no ground (floating)
So my .02 cent question is to ground or not to ground?

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« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2009, 21:40:24 pm »
I'd say thats a good interpretation .

Norths will be aligned with either connection .

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« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2009, 22:01:39 pm »
Look at the dot orientation in the very first picture on the previous page,  the dots don't follow the magnetic field induced by the primary.
Instead it points towards the induced north by the current fed from the secondary.

If this is also true for 7-1, then the mutual bifilar fields are aiding, but both are opposing the primary induced field.

Those dots mean nothing @ all , they are just dots on a multi trillion dollar technology .

They mean something to the eyes of the observer .

To me it looks like when the voltage of one is + , the other's direction is opposing to that , thus opposing and cancellling @ the cell . . Just like waveform 10-5 , and apparently , as Minde has told me , there is a LC resonant network  with choke and cell even when voltages cancel out . This confirms what demartin was saying .

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I am currently working on tunning of wfc system. I cannot get unipolar voltage "step-up" waves with my bifilar. I do get a resonance with some +100/-100 peak-to-peak but those waves are bipolar ( I wonder if single bifilar coil usage is total bs? If I make connection otherwise I cannot get it resonate to such a hi votage. Should I use 2 chokes instead like patent says? I have all instruments needed could anyone help please!?

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This is also the only way , where water stays totally cold because there is never any amp flow .

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