Stan used AMPS, big time!

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Dankie, there is only one current flow, and it is a vector quantity which means it has a direction and a magnitude.

it's direction is from + to -, (where electrons flow opposite to current by definition), and it's magnitude is an "ideal" zero.

Imagine you have a copper rod, and you take all the electrons from one end and put them in the other end, you will have + at one end, and an equal - at the other end. now say you don't let them move, you have an equal and opposite voltage between the ends of the copper rod.

I just want you to understand the basics.

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Electrostatic induction hypothesis

According to the electrostatic induction hypothesis charges are driven apart by as-yet uncertain processes. Charge separation appears to require strong updrafts which carry water droplets upward, supercooling them to between -10 and -20 °C. These collide with ice crystals to form a soft ice-water mixture called graupel. The collisions result in a slight positive charge being transferred to ice crystals, and a slight negative charge to the graupel. Updrafts drive the less heavy ice crystals upwards, causing the cloud top to accumulate increasing positive charge. Gravity causes the heavier negatively charged graupel to fall toward the middle and lower portions of the cloud, building up an increasing negative charge. Charge separation and accumulation continue until the electrical potential becomes sufficient to initiate a lightning discharge, which occurs when the distribution of positive and negative charges forms a sufficiently strong electric field.[13]

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Dankie, there is only one current flow, and it is a vector quantity which means it has a direction and a magnitude.

it's direction is from + to -, (where electrons flow opposite to current by definition), and it's magnitude is an "ideal" zero.

Imagine you have a copper rod, and you take all the electrons from one end and put them in the other end, you will have + at one end, and an equal - at the other end. now say you don't let them move, you have an equal and opposite voltage between the ends of the copper rod.

I just want you to understand the basics.

Reading Hdemartin's words again , he means 0 voltage , 0 current flow whatsoever .

I am indeed interpreting this correctly .

2curious , hdemartin ,  have all come to the same conclusion as me , these are smart people .

This is what Aquapulser has to say about this .

http://www.aquapulser.com/research.html

Stan's VIC unit that incorporated the bifilar chokes was for use not with his tubular cell set up but with his water fuel injector. The output of this unit is single phase and there are no harmonics involved, however it must also be said that Stan instead uses laser light and so there is definitely some sort of phase conjugation going on with both the alternator cell set up and the VIC water fuel injector which is a conjugated laser cavity. Scalar effects are produced byphase conjugating a wave by 180 degrees to cancel out the energy, yet it produces a "stress wave" that can have physical effects. This is very similar to Meyer's mirored pulses that one gets with the rectified output of the Alternator.  Click here to learn more about phase conjugation.

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two elephants pushing strongly head-on against each other may produce a "two-elephant" system of opposing forces (vectors), where the system is stationary. The system is thus a zero resultant vector system, whose motion is represented by a vector zero. The same would be true for two fleas pushing against each other and not moving as a system; the system would be a zero resultant vector system, whose motion is represented by a vector zero.

And here's where the mathematics betrays us, if accepted unQuestioningly. In vector analysis, all vector zeros are identical. Here we are saying that the translatory motions of the flea system and the elephant system are the same. That's true, but there's a whale of a lot of difference in the two systems that must be accounted for physically! If you don't believe that, put yourself in between the two pushing elephants, and see if that's the same as being between the two pushing fleas! You'll certainly notice a lot more stress on you from the elephants than from the fleas.

http://www.cheniere.org/misc/interview1991.htm

Now in quaternions, that is not the case. Quaternions that interact capture this "local stress of spacetime" and "locally trapped energy of spacetime" in the scalar component, inside it.

now I'm starting to understand

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two elephants pushing strongly head-on against each other may produce a "two-elephant" system of opposing forces (vectors), where the system is stationary. The system is thus a zero resultant vector system, whose motion is represented by a vector zero. The same would be true for two fleas pushing against each other and not moving as a system; the system would be a zero resultant vector system, whose motion is represented by a vector zero.

And here's where the mathematics betrays us, if accepted unQuestioningly. In vector analysis, all vector zeros are identical. Here we are saying that the translatory motions of the flea system and the elephant system are the same. That's true, but there's a whale of a lot of difference in the two systems that must be accounted for physically! If you don't believe that, put yourself in between the two pushing elephants, and see if that's the same as being between the two pushing fleas! You'll certainly notice a lot more stress on you from the elephants than from the fleas.

http://www.cheniere.org/misc/interview1991.htm

Good analogy

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well put alan but remember your only talking about one of the forces thats effecting the 2 elephents theres another force involed as well for seperation  of water.. imagine those to elephants pushing on each other while haveing ropes on them pulling them just as hard as they are pushing..  since one elephant is negative and the other is positve.

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Dankie, use your own words, use your own understanding. Come up with your own examples and explanations. It's the only way to show you know what you are talking about.

I am not familiar with what 2curious, hdemartin,  and Aquapulser are saying, they are not here on this forum, and from everything you say about them it makes me think you arm mixing up different explanations and technologies.

Besides, i spent 7 months listening to other people trying to figure out what Stan was up to, and then i spend 3 months reading Stan's work+physics+electrical on my own and i've learned 100x more from that than i have in the whole 10 months otherwise.

And Aquapulser has some things mixed up as well, and for the injector system he used lasers/leds to ionize the air, and mix that with the water, to be split in the injector, there is no phase coupling between the lasers and the injectors in this system. Also you can't cancel out the energy, if you have an abundance, and a lack, then the energy will be distributed, same with heat, and pressure. I haven't seen any progress from Aquapulser in a long time, they made/modified the Dave Lawton PWM and started selling it... good for them.  

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two elephants pushing strongly head-on against each other may produce a "two-elephant" system of opposing forces (vectors), where the system is stationary. The system is thus a zero resultant vector system, whose motion is represented by a vector zero. The same would be true for two fleas pushing against each other and not moving as a system; the system would be a zero resultant vector system, whose motion is represented by a vector zero.

And here's where the mathematics betrays us, if accepted unQuestioningly. In vector analysis, all vector zeros are identical. Here we are saying that the translatory motions of the flea system and the elephant system are the same. That's true, but there's a whale of a lot of difference in the two systems that must be accounted for physically! If you don't believe that, put yourself in between the two pushing elephants, and see if that's the same as being between the two pushing fleas! You'll certainly notice a lot more stress on you from the elephants than from the fleas.

http://www.cheniere.org/misc/interview1991.htm

this does not apply to electrical charges, think about it

you either have both the same charge, or one of each
(http://www.tpub.com/neets/book1/chapter1/1-7.gif)

now look at the field vectors, where, what, how, can you ever get two equal and opposite vectors that will result in an zero vector?

you can't

because by definition the vectors direction is away from positive and towards negative, and they will never meet head to head.