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A different perspective on the VIC
« on: November 05, 2008, 00:12:13 am »
After some recent experiments I now have a different view on Stan’s VIC. I may be wrong but I think it is worth sharing.

Here are some facts to consider:

1st – Stan’s Dun Buggy used a distributor with a Distributor CAP(Cover). So this means that the VIC is not physically connected to the water injectors. Well only by the ground, but the wire going from the distributor CAP to the Injector is not physically connected to the VIC. The energy from the VIC is delivered to the water Injector thru the spark gap switch created by the distributor Rotor/CAP.

2nd Bifilar chokes behave just like capacitors; you can charge them with very high voltages just like an HV capacitor.

Here is an example:

3rd It is know that water can explode when exposed to high Voltage capacitor discharge
Read Page 71 from the International Independent Report, Title “Electrically Induced Explosions in water”

So now this is what I think the VIC does:

The VIC is nothing more than an Ignition coil but with a build in HV capacitor (Bifilar coils). The VIC is constantly pulsed and the secondary coil charges the chokes in between firing cycles (when the distributor rotor is not aligned with the distributor cap spark plug terminal (Spark GAP). When the rotor is aligned with the spark plug terminal then the chokes released the stored energy into the injector. According to “Electrically Induced Explosions in water” from the independent report, you need a 38uH inductor between the HV capacitor and the water column (injector) to get the water to explode. Now there is talk of another winding in the VIC, and that can be a Lower voltage High AMPS to boost the AMPS of the HV, just like we can use a low voltage (300 volts) capacitor to piggie back on the HV to diliver a bigger punch to the water.

I truly believe that this is what Stan did. There is no magic resonance frequencies, there is no efficient way to create enough hydrogen(Maybe Bob Boyce) to self sustain an ICE. If Stan’s car really ran on water this has to be it.

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Re: A different perspective on the VIC
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2008, 02:11:09 am »
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Re: A different perspective on the VIC
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2008, 06:14:54 am »
great video bro.

I dont really understand your explication maybe make a simple sketch....

I too think that an electrolyser will never power anything , unless you got some laser Gas processor and all the other shit , most people cant even get a good efficient electrolyser to work so they can forget about that other more complex stuff.

Not to mention the fact that the electrolyser method is  more expensive and harder to adapt especially  if you ever wanted to go full-fledge OU with it. , simplicity and cost is very important here , we are not multi-millionaires and nasa scientists....

Its not about hydrogen , its about GTNT , you need to move some shit , power some shit ,  you dont need to produce gas.

I'm gonna uncover the secrets of the electrolyser after i uncover OU , not the other way around like most people....
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Re: A different perspective on the VIC
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2008, 17:07:18 pm »
Dankie,

I'm horrible at drawing...

Just use Stan's VIC in place of a standard ignition coil on a distributor type ignition system.

The Video I did it is just to show that the bifilar chokes in Stan's VIC will work as HV capacitors.

On a standard ignition system, the ignition coil is pulsed one time for every spark.

Stan's VIC is pulsed at high frequency to charge the chokes and the timing is done by the rotor / distributor cap Only, just like a Tesla coil switch.

It is very Important to read page 71, on the international paper.

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Re: A different perspective on the VIC
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2008, 16:47:51 pm »
Here is a way to make a poor man's version of the VIC, no machining needed to make the bobins. It took me about 40 minutes to make the VIC bobin out of PVC.

I used a 3/4 inch gray PVC tube from home depot, you can find it in the electrical section.

I got some pvc washers from MCmaster.com.

I had to shave down the PVC tube because it was too thick. for that I used my drill and some sand paper.

Attached the tube to the drill using a threaded rod, as the rod was spinning by the drill I used the sand paper to sand it down evenly.

Here are a few photos:

After I added the washers and evenly separated them I submerjed the entire assembly in polyurethane .

now I'm waiting for it to dry so I can start winding it.

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Re: A different perspective on the VIC
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2008, 18:45:32 pm »
Nice job Claudio!
Do the waschers give enough support for the wires? Strong enough?

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Re: A different perspective on the VIC
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2008, 21:09:31 pm »
I think so, the washers are nice and tight, and with a coat with Poly, it secures them a little more.

Well, I will soon find out when I start winding tomorrow.

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Re: A different perspective on the VIC
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2008, 00:12:26 am »
real nice improvising electrojolt.

I will have to check the dielectric properties of PVC  and see whats the difference between it and Acetral resin ( delrin)