Stan Meyer cracked by JNaudin!!!!

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i second the vote to change the presumptious name of this post

i also vote for me to stop wasting my time reading all this extremely technical stuff and wasting all of the jedi councils time with my silly inquiries and comments

its just too deep for dummies like me, i think you guys would benefit greatly from using  this forum as astepping stone to an "inner circle" of those in the know because honestly folks like myself are just wasting server space......and youre time

good luck on the work and i will keep an eye on you all for a feasible buld that i can complete myself

the object that we should all keep in mind is liberation from the oppression of oil, global liberation that is

Jared,

I hope that at the end of all this talking of us, you will benifid from it. There must a setup there that you can use to replicate at the end.

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Steve

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h2o power,

 i am pretty much in line with u.high voltage.i tried the coated cathode about two months ago. there is some validity to it.if u check your voltage at the wfc while it is running, u will see that there is a lot less voltage drop as compared to an uncoated cathode, even if the uncoated cat. is in distilled water! this does mean the cell can step up voltage instead of shorting to the anode.

stan slipped up in one of his conferences, he mentioned the vale of voltage he was putting into the CHOKES let alone the wfc. he mentioned his toroidal transformer was putting out 20,000 volts!!

my dad is a retired electrician  and is helping me out with this thing. he, as per my advice, wrapped a plastic tube with mag. wire as to simulate the coated cathode. than used a microwave transformer with the pwm and a relay to charge up the cell. of course he also used the chokes and diodes as per d-14 or stan. he just wanted to see if higher voltage would work. he got 220 volts at the cell with it running! the cell really didn't zap too much voltage. this is the kicker, he said the cell produced at least half as much hho as if he ran two ss tubes strait off the battery!! remember, this is with the inner cathode completely insulated!! and also technically a large coil...hmmm.

imagine 20,000 volts, just a thought. if the cathode is insulated, the wfc wouldn't zap the voltage no matter what type of water u use! ya think maybe stan insulated his cathodes?? i noticed as i doubled my secondary windings on my toroid, the production on the INSULATED cathode set also seemed to double.

some said that stan was cautious of people looking close at his wfc....what do ya think?

i am wright on board with your thinking, don't get discouraged, keep sending your info. something will happen we ALL will get it .some way or another!!

@creationist70

Nice! Can you post some pics of that setup of yours? And maybe some drawing of it?
We can use some that here!

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Steve

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Ok,

After having a look at the schematic of JNL (!) i must say that there are some differences between the schematics of Stan and JNL.
The most important difference is that the secondairy circuit of JNL has a shared ground with the primairy circuit.
Stan wrote vey clear that he didnt wanted a shared ground.
How far this matters, i cannot answer  yet.

Other difference are the resistor and the insulated innertube.
I also see what others already mentioned before that JNL has drawn the bifcoil wires not as they should be.
I cannot confirm that the way JNL shows his wires, that that can work. I got my step-up charging with a reversed wiring of one of the 2 coils.

I am SURE about the fact that the only way to get real HV with low amps at yr wfc is by using an FULLY insulated innertube (maybe a fully insulated outertube, with a non insulated innertube will work as well... )

I also remember an interview with a person who was doing a replication of Stan with an Insulated innertube. He said that he didnt care anymore for the gasoutput of his device. He found out that this setup was producing! losts of current! It produced more power then consumed...
Now, that sounds interesting, is it...

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Steve

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hi all,
the links at the bottom of jnaudin's site don't appear to work, has anyone got his figures for gas production against input ?

thank you,
br,
james

James, all 4 links are working fine for me. There are no figures of production in there.

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Steve

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Received some info from JN.

"Thank you very much for your comments and for your interest in my WFC experiment published in my web site.  For the bifilar coil, I have used my old bifilar TEP coil without the ferrite rods inside, you will find the specs at :  http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/tepcoil.htm About the T1 transformer, I am using an ordinary and very common transformer (50 Hz 220/12V reversed), may be that with a toroidal ferrite transformer the result will be better.... Stay tuned on my web site, I shall soon post some news and updates... "

Here is his BIFI coil:

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/tepcoil.htm

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Watercellguy,

Thanks!

I added that info to the JNL document that i made at the beginning of this topic.
Its here to download.

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steve

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Happy to help...

Today I isolated a cell and started testing.... Didn't have much time but I did notice that the tubes are now ringing.... they are pretty loud. but not gas yet since I was only able to bring the voltage to about 500V.

On a different note, my oshilloscope is rated to 400V only, can I use a volatge divider and use it at higher volatges?

[jared]

stevie i doubt i can use anything from here besides maybe cell designs , the circuits are just too complex for alot of us

i think i am gonna try the smacks cell cheap easy build, good production

id love to try pwm and the laser or led thing but its just not feasible for many of us, i think the efie is pretty much needed to attain results in  mileage gains

im fine with just goin back over to hho forums, or as hydrocars might say, the little kids table

when you guys crack it publish it and maybe us simple folks can benefit good luck guys im sure you can do it, just avoid the spotlight and stay alive