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russrHHO:

The tv episode Mythbusters - called "Exploding Pants" is purchasable, and is about running a car engine on vertical water cell hooked to the carburetor, was a deliberate NEGATIVE set up. I counted 14 built in mistakes to not allow engine to run on hydrogen. The electrical circuit that was to be used was really called "The Hydrostar". The complete original design is on Internet for sale. I have paper manual , but it's now being sold as a computer disc. Mythbusters did not use proper design, nor did they implement the required magnetic wire coil. Even gas engines use air as part of the blend. Their carb was completely closed off. Real usable energy related material will never be shown on tv, local newspaper or on radio general news. You have to your own research and see what others have already done. The man who designed Hydrostar was one of Stan Meyer's technicians in Ohio before Meyer was poisoned . Chambers went to Canada and filed Canadian + US Patent on modified version of Meyer's work. His Xogen company had showed a display of HIS unit for publicity. The magnetic field energizes the rising ions in solution and increases energy content. Circular concentric pipe electrodes are superior to flat plate electrodes. Pulse quick current only for ALIGNMENT of water molecules polarity. Then pipes hit with high voltage DC pulses for way overunity hydrogen and oxygen gas. (No electrolysis at all)- that's old technology as of now. The Patent pages don't state it but, if flipping drawings pages back + forth , you can see it's easily done as connecting the wires of pipes to the resultant flyback high voltage coming from the wire coil. !! Hydrostar US Patent 6126794 by Chambers as studied and read for free on Internet. (Put that in your pipe and smoke it!

russrHHO:
 Hydrostar Hydrogen Generator Water Cell

The Hydrostar design from years ago was an AID to the gasoline engine. The water cell added to car engine compartment making improved efficiency hydrogen gas , only increased gas mileage by 25%. This design was available to general public with parts list. The original one in Canada , with full wiring, was over unity, as it used the original Meyer process. (DC Voltrolosis). (No electrolysis used) The info I present is just to keep people updated, in case a few may be interested.

A sample bench assembled Meyer Hydrogen Generator is a way better build project. If diode was omitted, then the resonant frequency AC vibrations will heat the water for high BTU external heater unit. (Microwave oven at 1000 watts is brute force type, as vibrations heat moisture that heats the food).  The heating effect has also been done with ultrasonic transducer head with feedback auto adjust oscillator circuit and ran from 9v battery pack.  You should already know these things. .

Steve:
Hi RussrHHO,

I think that that patent was one of the first i took a better look at, many many years ago.
At those days i just started to do some tests with HHO.
As most of us know, is the burnrate of hydrogen very very quick and to move an engines piston, you need a much slower bang.
Thats why this Orto vs Para Hydrogen becomes interesting.....
For whatever reason, the atoms being released in a waterbath during electrolysis are able to change their massa, energy levels and burnrate.
This is not where many people on the forums are working with, sadly enough.
They always look at the litres per minute figures. Not at the amount of atomic mass, burnrate and so on.

I know that thaat is almost impossible to do, without the proper equipment, but i can share from my own experiences that the type of gas coming from a waterfuelcell who is charged with DC PULSES, in stead of strait DC, is much more potent and more able to run an engine then the gas produced with strait DC, unpulsed.

My 2 cents, based on study and not on tests, is that the Hydrogen Atom, when released from the bond during electrolysis and then going to be bond with another hydrogen atom will loose some of its power, and propably its own mass.
Thats why pulsed dc produced gas has more bang for the money.

Have a great day!

russrHHO:
Wow! great Stuff. Thanks for the reply.

russrHHO:

The Hydrostar design is offshute of the fantastic Meyer process. Chambers FLED to Canada after Meyer was poisoned in Ohio. He was chief technician for Meyer. Employees have to sign document that all designs he comes up with belongs to the company water Fuel Cell. The Hydrostar Patent shows magnetic field increasing energy of rising fuel ions from water solution. The Meyer cell had none of that. You can infer then, what happened to Meyer and why.
General Patents don't disclose all pertinent data. Don't think they do.
The best described US Patent I found was the Horvath Patent 3980053. (1of his 3) Car engine runs on 40 amps draw to circuit with alternator recharging battery. Improved electrolysis of water for Hydrogen fuel with high frequency + magnetic field for pulsing DC current. Misspelled words and minor errors found, but complete. Cell voltage was 30 volts pulsing DC at about 200 pulse amps. System is just a beefed up capacitor discharge power supply at 600watts.
You should already know about forming hydrogen from water using 2 magnets. PVC T fitting, N + S magnets , 2 steel bolts, duct tape, vinegar water put in center T. See bubbles hydrogen form immediately from fields pulling apart molecules of water to gases. You have to have an interest in a field to get data.

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