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Super Carburetors And Gas Savers Tested In The past
« on: February 11, 2024, 18:25:33 pm »

Tom Ogle was shot. The Popular Mechanics magazine also had a chapter on him way back when. Many years after, I tried to duplicate his system with VW engine in a wheelbarrow. The jet holes in main VW carb were all sealed with plugs, or solder, except the accelerator pump diaphragm. I made a TEMPORARY ONLY carb, just for an initial test. The house used to have the cabinet looking old style house humidifier with rotating drum covered with large sponge dunking in the large water tank. When rotating out of the water, a fan blew air through the material and out through top vents into the room. I made a carb like that, and was  similar to the one by Ogle. A hot air hair dryer blew air into porous material rotating in a small gasoline chamber. A CLEAR hose hooked to the top of VW carb, while a hand drill was used to rotate the engine crankshaft. Mechanical Pulses of the accelerator diaphragm allowed a small amount of gas into the engine for start. When running, the engine only uses vapors when vacuum pulled in the heated gas fumes. The carb was in 2 halves held by duct tape , so as it could pop apart easily, for some safety. I knew the conversion would work, but was actually amazed to see GRAY FUMES through the clear hose, pulled into the engine. A white tissue on the exhaust pipe was always clean. I had studied the 2-3 Patents by Charles Pogue of Canada. There are many gas fumes carburetor designs and Patents to read on same. In the olden days , such as the 150-200 miles per gallon carburetor, the formulation of gasoline was way different. A full conversion modern carb does not run on vapors with our gasoline. It's called light ends and heavy ends chemicals. The engine bogs down and quits when carb is all gummed up. The price of gasoline always goes up, or is rationed, such as in 1974. The engine manufacturers changed to fuel injection to keep people away from tinkering with old style carburetor.  I gave up on that subject and now only interested in Hydrogen gas, and methods of improved efficiency of generation.

I also showed a few people another conversion I did for a couple of weeks on a 1974 AMC Gremlin. It was called gas cap gas saver. The inventor had passed away, but the wife sent a folder of photocopies of his data. Purchased used gas cap from junkyard. I drilled a center hole to mount brass fittings on both sides. The finished unit was removed before going to gas station. There was a hose on inside that went down into gas tank. The outer cap had a one way spring valve to let in air by vacuum. The existing tubing underneath car ran to the charcoal canister and up to the engine. I mounted a brass adjustable on/off valve with CLEAR hose to intake manifold. The Carter carb had IDLE jet screwed in tight closed off. After engine start with the pressed diaphragm, the engine would only run on vapors from the tank. That was ok for a stationary engine, but not for the road. I showed that set up to several people as a lark, but after that no one was interested. You see, the air was pulled into tank hose by engine adjusted vacuum, and caused liquid fuel to bubble upwards with gas laden air above the liquid, which the fumes were pulled all the way forward to the car engine.  Engine would shut right off when clear hose was hand pinched.

I tried another hand made gas saver for single barrel Gremlin carb engine. It was called under carb flutter wheel. The shaft was in between thick carb gaskets. The 2 thin steel plates were brazed onto a brass tube on the rod. Sharp saw teeth edges at both ends were made . This would spin easily in your hand and when mounted on the engine, you could drive with better efficiency. I was driving all the way through town to driveway with no foot on the accelerator pedal. I would lower the driver's window and turn off engine. You could hear the spinner whining down its rpms. You see, there was a better mixing of the air and gasoline BEFORE entering the intake manifold.

Another two gas savers were tested that did work as water injector and steam injector. Both increased mpg by 11%.  J C Whitney sold the steam unit to attach to engine. Their kit rusted out my air cleaner and had to be replaced. I looked up the original Berger gas saver U.S. Patent and found out the hose was to be connected to intake manifold, - not the air cleaner as in the instruction sheet of Berger gas saver.  You have to do the research first, before jumping in to something. The new adjustable vacuum 12v switch is now $42. The old foreign cars in junk yard have them mounted on fender or firewall , and very cheap for several purchased.

Americans don't believe anything unless you show them. I showed a few others how to make quarry fish come out of the water and take a worm out of your hand. Lay down on the dock wear polarized sunglasses, and hold out your hand to see rock bass, crappies, sun fish, etc. They show up and grab the worm, and dive back down. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!

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Re: Super Carburetors And Gas Savers Tested In The past
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2024, 20:20:09 pm »

E Paul DuPont (of the DuPont Chem co and Dulux paint) built a motorcycle that had a carb/tank set up like you describe.
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Walter Davidson of Harley Davidson won an economy test in 1908 ,something like 188 mpg. 33 ounces of gas over 52-mile route, which would have been flat.

some of those ancient carbs worked a lot different from modern type carbs. One is called a "soup can".
most appear to be updraft so the fuel is always encouraged to break down, plus there is vacuum

mid century carbs were down draft to pour/dump gas into engine