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is it this simpel?
« on: January 12, 2024, 13:59:12 pm »
How about just applying 300v to the LC and then get like 600V?
Or apply 600v and get 1200v?

Is that the secret?
See Stanleys text in the attachment...

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Re: is it this simpel?
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2024, 14:13:30 pm »
https://www.falstad.com/circuit/

5v in and then 12v on the lc?



$ 1 0.000005 0.14549914146182014 60 5 50 5e-11
R 224 208 160 208 0 2 4000 5 0 0 0.5
d 224 208 304 208 2 default
c 384 208 384 272 0 1e-8 12.94743904804715 0.001
l 336 208 336 272 0 0.1 0.004471363575513091 0
w 304 208 336 208 0
w 336 208 384 208 0
w 384 272 336 272 0
g 336 272 336 320 0 0
o 2 1 0 4098 20 0.1 0 2 2 3
o 3 1 0 4098 20 0.1 1 2 3 3

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Re: is it this simpel?
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2024, 14:27:20 pm »
How about this one? Added a resistor for preventing the leaky cell to leak to ground.
Input is 24v and LC is doing almost 30V...

$ 1 0.000005 0.14549914146182014 60 5 50 5e-11
R 224 208 160 208 0 2 4000 24 0 0 0.5
d 224 208 304 208 2 default
c 384 208 384 272 0 1e-9 -5.3304916036722716e-11 0.001
l 336 208 336 272 0 0.01 0.015731775123604987 0
w 304 208 336 208 0
w 336 208 384 208 0
w 384 272 336 272 0
r 336 272 336 320 0 1488
g 336 320 336 352 0 0
o 2 1 0 12290 29.851620783001223 0.0001 0 2 2 3
o 3 4 0 12290 29.879374367328996 0.0001 1 2 3 3

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Re: is it this simpel?
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2024, 14:36:00 pm »
or at 50khz


$ 1 6.25e-7 0.14549914146182014 60 5 50 5e-11
R 224 208 160 208 0 2 50000 600 0 0 0.5
d 224 208 304 208 2 default
c 384 208 384 272 0 1e-9 586.9033082256366 0.001
l 336 208 336 272 0 0.01 -0.14125218975098347 0
w 304 208 336 208 0
w 336 208 384 208 0
w 384 272 336 272 0
r 336 272 336 320 0 1800
g 336 320 336 352 0 0
o 2 1 0 12290 766.5923081657502 0.0001 0 2 2 3
o 3 4 0 12290 770.6036791260528 0.0001 1 2 3 3

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Re: is it this simpel?
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2024, 06:41:33 am »
How about just applying 300v to the LC and then get like 600V?
Or apply 600v and get 1200v?

Is that the secret?
See Stanleys text in the attachment...

In this words I guess he is saying that at resonance the current on the components will cause the voltage to be greater than applied voltage... the voltage will depend on q factor...

He seem to say with that the resonance will allow a higher or different electric field 🤔

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Re: is it this simpel?
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2024, 09:06:09 am »
How about just applying 300v to the LC and then get like 600V?
Or apply 600v and get 1200v?

Is that the secret?
See Stanleys text in the attachment...

In this words I guess he is saying that at resonance the current on the components will cause the voltage to be greater than applied voltage... the voltage will depend on q factor...

He seem to say with that the resonance will allow a higher or different electric field 🤔


a different? What does that mean?

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Re: is it this simpel?
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2024, 00:15:07 am »
When I did some tests feeding the cell with dc current thru a coil i was expecting that when I applied ac on the cell thru a capacitor  would have mixed the electric fields in the cell however kind of it just worked in parallel being the cell connection just the point where the two circuits meet.

I was expecting that when I modulated the cell positive the choke would reinforce it and if negative the choke would absorb it.. it did it but not as much as I wanted.

When a coil find a higher resistance it need to develop a higher voltage to keep its current flowing so my idea was perhaps that maybe one coil modulating each other could give rise to a high voltage or field when they interfere with each other

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Re: is it this simpel?
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2024, 11:03:44 am »
Please run this simulation:

$ 1 1.0416666666666667e-7 0.8031194996067259 34 5 50 5e-11
T 64 176 128 208 0 0.02 1 2.220446049250313e-16 -0.008815245999079346 0.999
c 352 128 352 224 0 3e-11 517.2170237049435 0.001
w 304 128 352 128 0
w 128 176 192 176 0
w 192 176 192 128 0
w 224 128 304 128 0
w 304 128 304 176 0
w 128 208 192 208 0
w 32 208 64 208 0
w 352 224 224 208 0
v -80 208 -80 176 4 5 50 12 0 0 0.159154943092
s -80 176 32 176 0 1 false
T 192 208 224 176 8 0.02 1 -0.00881524599907968 0.008809936181268463 0.999
d 192 128 224 128 2 default
g 352 224 352 256 0 0
w 32 176 64 176 0
w -80 208 32 208 0
181 224 176 304 176 0 300.03343262931946 100 120 0.4 0.4
o 1 64 0 12291 5559.406192123504 2.10693571926386 0 2 1 3
o 10 64 0 4097 0.0000762939453125 0.8 1 1
o 13 64 0 4099 640 0.00625 2 2 13 3


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