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Re: why Stanley used Higher Voltage....
« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2024, 16:11:31 pm »
Read the US Patents by Meyer, and his 2 BOOKS! . It is stated that the voltrolysis electrode concentric tubes have a premade coating installed first, so as there is greater resistance through the water. The polarization still works. Also Meyer did not use standard insulated copper magnet wire on the ferrite transformer secondary side. It was RESISTANCE type wire from off a special reel , so as the end circuit has much higher resistance. The metal pipes are also special type stainless steel, so as no contaminants get into the water. (not 302). You cannot make  judgements calls from off of the top of your head, without studying the tech documents.That, of course, means to spend money for some of them. Others are actually on the Internet to read for free.

He was putting very high STRESS on the molecular bonds of molecules, until instantly they EASILY fall apart.  Primary and secondary  transformer  fires for a lowered pulse voltage, then SHUTS OFF, the flyback effect fires higher than 1500volts to separate water molecules to EXTREMELY fine bubbles + foam -flowing upward. If you see just small bubbles , that's only H2 and O2. If large bubbles are seen, that's only water vapor. If any heat is noticed, that's is also NOT A Meyer cell for the Patented name Thermo Explosive Energy.
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Re: why Stanley used Higher Voltage....
« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2024, 17:50:11 pm »
Read the US Patents by Meyer, and his 2 BOOKS! . It is stated that the voltrolysis electrode concentric tubes have a premade coating installed first, so as there is greater resistance through the water. The polarization still works. Also Meyer did not use standard insulated copper magnet wire on the ferrite transformer secondary side. It was RESISTANCE type wire from off a special reel , so as the end circuit has much higher resistance. The metal pipes are also special type stainless steel, so as no contaminants get into the water. (not 302). You cannot make  judgements calls from off of the top of your head, without studying the tech documents.That, of course, means to spend money for some of them. Others are actually on the Internet to read for free.

He was putting very high STRESS on the molecular bonds of molecules, until instantly they EASILY fall apart.  Primary and secondary  transformer  fires for a lowered pulse voltage, then SHUTS OFF, the flyback effect fires higher than 1500volts to separate water molecules to EXTREMELY fine bubbles + foam -flowing upward. If you see just small bubbles , that's only H2 and O2. If large bubbles are seen, that's only water vapor. If any heat is noticed, that's is also NOT A Meyer cell for the Patented name Thermo Explosive Energy.

Meyer work has many levels, from the flat vic transformer to the SS wire injector transformer. In the flat VIC transformer, he used ordinary copper wire and had no insulation at the tubes. Could you please print and then post the picture here, where is his books or his patents where he states that: " the voltrolysis electrode concentric tubes have a premade coating installed first"? Thanks.

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Re: why Stanley used Higher Voltage....
« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2024, 20:47:05 pm »
What i mean is like a rolling foil leving a spiral Chanel  within the electrodes

Resistances can be increased the more turns you put in

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Re: why Stanley used Higher Voltage....
« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2024, 23:43:11 pm »
What i mean is like a rolling foil leving a spiral Chanel  within the electrodes

Resistances can be increased the more turns you put in

In this way you are reducing the electrode area, which will increase resistance, you are right. But is easier to make smaller electrodes then. Even though, for 1kV/10mA, you'll need a resistance of 100kOhms, which is impossible to get like this.

And again, Meyer didnt insulate or put anything in between his tubes, here lies the secret...

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Re: why Stanley used Higher Voltage....
« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2024, 00:22:33 am »
I remember reading , way back in time, about the electrostatic spray on coating for Meyer's set of SS electrodes - matching use surfaces only.. He had tested various forms  such as flat plates, tall concentric single tube set, and shorter sets of multiple concentric tubes. Efficiency changed with the form.being bench tested.  I will check my files on Meyer cell for further data. He may have used the coating on just certain designs.

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Re: why Stanley used Higher Voltage....
« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2024, 02:19:33 am »
I wish i could feel só sure…

Só far o know nothing About stanley cell since o Didnt meet him in life

Isdifrerent than havingsmall electrodes pretry much different

The resistances are diferent in different parta Of the cell depending what conduction mechanism is in place

And specially when resonance take placê in relacione with the magnética firlds

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Re: why Stanley used Higher Voltage....
« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2024, 14:37:07 pm »
I wish i could feel só sure…

Só far o know nothing About stanley cell since o Didnt meet him in life

Isdifrerent than havingsmall electrodes pretry much different

The resistances are diferent in different parta Of the cell depending what conduction mechanism is in place

And specially when resonance take placê in relacione with the magnética firlds

Well, physics says that when you charge a capacitor, the dielectric gets polarized and displace chages to the other side. If he coated the tubes in order to increase resistance, it is the coating that is beign polarized, not the water.

All I know about the real work I got from the guys who went to Stans estate and took the pictures. In the flat vic transformer, the wires were copper, and the electrodes were plain 304 SS, no coating. As he had 10 cells wires in series, and 10 flat vic transformers in the car module, he probably connected all the 10 transformers in series in order to drive the 10 series cells.

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Re: why Stanley used Higher Voltage....
« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2024, 05:02:12 am »
The Nice part here is that both Will get polarized! Walter Will have more than one electric field acting on